Hyaenidae Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Remember, Brothers, the models can be up to the point of a basecoat/early stages of painting. That's ten days. TEN DAYS. To prep all vehicles, glue parts together, scrape mold lines, clip sprues, make conversions, greenstuff, etc. Use your time wisely. Prepare not only for victory, but a victory you can be proud of. We shall not make the mistake of rushing to finish a model, and making mistakes. Because Forgeworld is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Good point, damn it Forgeworld why do orders drag for delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Remember, Brothers, the models can be up to the point of a basecoat/early stages of painting. That's ten days. TEN DAYS. To prep all vehicles, glue parts together, scrape mold lines, clip sprues, make conversions, greenstuff, etc. Use your time wisely. Prepare not only for victory, but a victory you can be proud of. We shall not make the mistake of rushing to finish a model, and making mistakes. Because Forgeworld is expensive. :sweat: BEST. ADVICE. EVER! There is no point in completing anything unless you painted to the best of your ability! Remember, the minis will stay with you a long time after the ETL is over. I want you to look at them and proudly say: I painted this during the ETL! Not: bloody ETL, look what you made me do! So follow Heathens' sage advice! Last year the overall quality of the HH forum earned them the right to collectively wear the badge of the most impressive miniature. Although this won't happen again (the badge will be awarded to an individual) you already have a proud tradition to uphold. You and all other forums too! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Remember, Brothers, the models can be up to the point of a basecoat/early stages of painting. That's ten days. TEN DAYS. To prep all vehicles, glue parts together, scrape mold lines, clip sprues, make conversions, greenstuff, etc. Use your time wisely. Prepare not only for victory, but a victory you can be proud of. We shall not make the mistake of rushing to finish a model, and making mistakes. Because Forgeworld is expensive. BEST. ADVICE. EVER! There is no point in completing anything unless you painted to the best of your ability! Remember, the minis will stay with you a long time after the ETL is over. I want you to look at them and proudly say: I painted this during the ETL! Not: bloody ETL, look what you made me do! So follow Heathens' sage advice! Last year the overall quality of the HH forum earned them the right to collectively wear the badge of the most impressive miniature. Although this won't happen again (the badge will be awarded to an individual) you already have a proud tradition to uphold. You and all other forums too! well, no way in hell im going to win that award, but im going to try ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Not with that attitude you won't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberame Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ahh, for ETL "allies" means using units from two otherwise unrelated Codices/books and as such they are not allowed. If the units come from the same or related books then they are not allies, they are the same force for the purposes of the ETL. So units from all and any of HH book are not allies per se for ETL purposes (although they may be under game rules) and as such there is no restriction on the units you use. You can do units from any Legion or AdMech that you feel like. Another example of related Codices is the Astra Mlitarum and the Scions. Or the Chaos Marines and the Chaos Daemons (this has to do with the B&C structure too). Unrelated Codices are for example DAs and BAs. There will be a very analytical description when the rules become available! Wait so for non heresy, templars will be part of the iron hands, white scar's, other generic space marines tag this year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Templar Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Since the new Space Marine codex, they are all classed as the same army. Makes sense that they are counted the same for ETL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Excoriators are not Generic!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ahh, for ETL "allies" means using units from two otherwise unrelated Codices/books and as such they are not allowed. If the units come from the same or related books then they are not allies, they are the same force for the purposes of the ETL. So units from all and any of HH book are not allies per se for ETL purposes (although they may be under game rules) and as such there is no restriction on the units you use. You can do units from any Legion or AdMech that you feel like. Another example of related Codices is the Astra Mlitarum and the Scions. Or the Chaos Marines and the Chaos Daemons (this has to do with the B&C structure too). Unrelated Codices are for example DAs and BAs. There will be a very analytical description when the rules become available! :) Wait so for non heresy, templars will be part of the iron hands, white scar's, other generic space marines tag this year?? Yes and no... It's complicated. Don't worry though, honour will be preserved. You'll see... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yessir ten days to get my first vow's worth of models ready for the paint brush. I may even put the raptors togethe(i have enough for a definite 5 of them) or a terror squad unit; waiting for the heads and torsos to arrive, going to mix it with various armor, some MkV stuff, and a unit of SoH Reavers (who are going to be vandalized for the sake of the Night Haunter) coming in. Oh no, and I have ten breachers coming! 6 jetbikes and a Javelin are also on standby! golly gee do I do? May e th first vow will be mostly troops then. Decisions to be made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberame Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 stuffs more stuffs Yes and no... It's complicated. Don't worry though, honour will be preserved. You'll see... Okay, cause I've got like 4 chapters I'm getting prepped up at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I heard that 10% of the Templar's totals will be added to the Codex Chapters and the rest is simply 'lost in the warp.' :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think I'm going to miss out on this one. Between the order I've already put in for models, having to buy all new paints and restocking on hobby supplies and tools (whatever I've lost while moving or has gone kaput since I last did anything hobby related... almost 5 years ago at this point) isn't in the budget for the next few months. I could get the models assembled, puttied, and based, but fully painted? Probably not, when I'm going to spend as much on brushes, paints, etched brass, and transfers as I did on the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I feel your pain kitwulfen. It is often overlooked but the cost of the hobby supplies is quite large... Get everything in place and maybe next ETL you'll be set up and join. Having said that, even a single character is a welcome addition! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The captain is right every little bit helps. What's needed is completed vows. It doesn't matter about the size as long as they're completed. If we can get 10 people who were not going to join in making and completing a single 100 points vow then that's an extra 1000 points to the total. If they make 2 vows each of 100 points that's 2000 points extra we wouldn't have had. So if you've got the stuff to complete any models you would help out a lot by joining in even of it's just a few points!!!! We need to get the word out to anyone currently working on HH models to join up even if it's a single model. It takes the pressure of the few who are doing bigger vows to not push their vows overly large and then fail to complete a few models of that vow which then means we loose a big chunk of possible points. From personal experience I did the top points for the SW's last year and came close to dropping all my points due to issues getting photos taken in time and then uploaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I would suggest doing an escalation type thing for those that don't want a large upfront cost or may not have the time. Get a HQ model (avg around 100 pts) and paint it for your first vow. Then grab a troop (avg around 300 pts) then a second...I three voaws you have a core force and around 700 pts added to the cause. Even just a finished HQ will help. I would prefer a high completion rate over a large number of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I feel your pain kitwulfen. It is often overlooked but the cost of the hobby supplies is quite large... Get everything in place and maybe next ETL you'll be set up and join. Having said that, even a single character is a welcome addition! :) The cost of rehab for the resin crack addiction is even more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Yes, yes it is. Like I just got my terror squad bits in... I need more... more... MOAR!!! Oh yah, more is coming... Ugh, my wallet hates itself... Annnnnd, I still need to get a few more chainglaives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I've sprayed my first vow, but can I begin to work on the bases or do I need to wait until May for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 No actual work on the miniatures should start before the vow is officially placed... So you need to wait for a week still. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Does it just have to be models? I wanted to make a Mk. II Night Lords human sized shoulder pad. If not s'all good I'll still make it for oersonal pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Does it just have to be models? I wanted to make a Mk. II Night Lords human sized shoulder pad. If not s'all good I'll still make it for oersonal pleasure Lol, that counts as 2000 points right? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstoe Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Ok, i have just created an account because of you guys motivating everyone to participate... It won't be very much, but Typhon and 5, maybe 10 destroyer will be painted for the heresy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Welcome aboard the 30k ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Ok, i have just created an account because of you guys motivating everyone to participate... It won't be very much, but Typhon and 5, maybe 10 destroyer will be painted for the heresy! Wecome to the forge crack club brother! get to it! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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