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[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

8 hours ago, our_baz said:

Exactly...confused. 

 

Or tin foil hat time, if GW don't sell a AM infantry squad set will it be an option come 10th. 

 

Anyway back to my question, the proxy will be obvious those boys in red with the bear skins they are shock troops. 

What are you confused about exactly?

[our_baz]

@Inquisitor_Lensoven The initial question was do you have to use the official "Cadian Shock Troop" model if you want to run "Shock Troops" in your list @Emperor Ming and @duz_ suggested that if was clear and obvious there shouldn't be any issues with proxying other model(s) as shock troops as long as you let your opponent know.

 

The response from @duz_ got me thinking and this is were the confusion is for me. The current troop squad options from the GW store are Krieg, Catahcan and Cadian Shock troops. There is no "infantry squad" option from them. To me the Cadian Shock Troop box is can be built as a "Classic Infantry Squad" list option and as the "Cadian Shock Troop" list option as well. Assuming the infantry squad and Shock Troop are different troops choices come 10th, how would one differentiate between them on the table? For old hand like me with a fair few 2nd ed metal and old Infantry squads not really an issue, but what would a new comer to AM do. There's my confusion. Obviously this is a moot point if the classic Infantry squad isn't a troops option come 10th.

[our_baz]

I said to myself during 8th i don't need anymore guard. 

Two weeks ago i cracked and picked these up. 

 

I've now ordered alternative heads for a little kit bash. 

Suppose i had better start assembling them tonight in time for the heads to arrive. 

[our_baz]

Unexpected issue also a bit of an FYI for anyone else who is thinking of doing a head swap. 

The krieg models don't have recess for their heads. Looks like i will have to drill out a recess. 

[duz_]

That's unfortunate baz... 

 

I built mine so long ago I forgot about that. Hopefully it's not a big issue... 

 

I'd sad face but I can't 

[our_baz]

@duz_ how about a respectfully disagree reaction to GW's design of the neck region of the Krieg miniatures?

[our_baz]

The heads have arrived time to hack at some plastic. The heads are from anvil industries and are beautiful to look at and work with. 

Here are the results so far :

Edited May 19, 2023 by our_baz
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[duz_]

Both of those look awesome! 

 

Was the dkok tricky? 

[our_baz]

4 minutes ago, duz_ said:

Both of those look awesome! 

 

Was the dkok tricky? 

Not too difficult, drilled a 3mm hole for the neck joint and then just a bit filling and shaving with a craft knife to get the head to fit. 

[our_baz]

For your consideration. I really should be painting, but lacking the motivation with my current project. So time to kit bash some Guard.

 

As promised in another thread (@Brother Captain Vakarian), below is a series of pictures illustrating how I converted (butchered) the Kreig torso's so 3rd part head can fit them. First image is showing a 3mm hole ~2mm deep in the neck area. after this it a case of cutting out the v in the neck (second pic). The shaving and filing the newly created neck recess and the ball joint on the new head carefully until a snug fit is obtained.

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Slightly easier kit bash next, simple head swap on another rough rider

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I also saw this head with a bicorne hat, I loved it and had to use it on something so I picked up the new castelan model and there you go. The proportions looked a bit off to me initially after I assembled it, but also was a bit of a pain to fit as the collar area on the torso and the neck of the model needed a bit of shaving to ensure any sort of fit could be achieved.

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[Brother Captain Vakarian]

Great conversion work! This is incredibly detailed and helpful. Looks easy enough too. I went ahead and got a bunch of the Valhallan heads so I’ll have to post some pics when I get them and get building, too. 

[our_baz]

Been working on a Pledge for "Call To Arms. My slightly converted Castellan has been completed. This again has been done mostly with contrast paints over a gentle zenthial base coat. With that done I've began to horse around (I'll get my coat) with my second part of the pledge. The Rough Riders are also mostly being painted with contrast type paints over a gentle zenthial base coat.

 

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[our_baz]

File this under couldn't wait to paint it.....but absolutely hated the process. First issue the model is busy and cramped in places, it really should have been painted in sub-assembly's, second tried to use contrast paints mostly, but a combination of poor control and sub-optimal finish (on the red) I spent waaaay too much time touching up before applying the next paint. Anyway first in the bag 4 more to go.

 

 

Using the first Rough Rider as a learning opportunity, I've changed by painting technique on the second. Still using contrast/contrast like paints on the main horse body and cloak as its easier to get at and I'm slopping it on quickly and then mopping up with a dry brush to ensure good coverage and not worry about getting paint on the wrong surfaces. For the rider which is more fiddly and a tighter space to work in I've reverted to a classic layering style. So far its been a much more pleasing process.

Edited August 9, 2023 by our_baz

[duz_]

Yeh how busy the models are was definitely a concern if mine during assembly. 

 

I found WN Series 7 brushes really good for contrasts. They hold the paint really well, give you control when moving it around and great to dab excess paint up afterwards. 

 

Good luck with the rest of them. Looking forward to the end result! 

[our_baz]

Thanks @duz_. WN series 7 their kolinsky sable, am I right? I’ve not trusted myself with kolinsky sable brushes for general work horse duty, I  I’m worried I’ll destroy them after one use, even with cleaning and preservation. I’m currently using Rosemary and Co “Red Dot” for my general work, and their Kolinsky brushes for detail work. I’ll look at the WN series 7 and see what price difference is.

[duz_]

Yes that's the one. 

 

They're surprisingly durable brushes! Now I won't paint my metal minis with them 

But I've occasionally been neglectful in their treatment and original ones are still going 4? years on!