rendingon1+ Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) http://warpstoneflux.blogspot.com/2015/04/how-to-automatically-explode-tanks-in.html Any of you guys? I don't think exodus is that bad. I run him with headhunters to varying degrees of success but I'd never say he's useless. Teaming up with hh gives him preferred enemy (which is really great especially with execution shot) and in return they get: stealth, scout, acute senses and move through cover. Not bad I think. Only problem is that hh banestrike bolters are half the range of exodus's rifle... As for exodus himself I use him mostly for sniping out nuncio guys (my opponent really likes barrage stuff), weapon specialists, rapiers, and most of all (which is really stupid) light vehicles (2/4 S5 rending or 1 S6 rending). I rarely use execution shot (unless target is 3+) because vs. 2+ targets I count on rending anyway, and potentially 4 rending shots have greater chance of succes than one (not to mention that they wound on 3+ and even if they don't rend, there are {up to} 4 armor saves rolls to pass). Question: can Exodus be equipped with additional power dagger? Edited April 27, 2015 by rendingon1+ Mountain Goats 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Per RAW? Yes. Per RACSD/Presumed RAI; No. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 What is RACSD? I'm not familiar with this term. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Rules as common sense dictates. For example, look at previois characters. When that character has an option, like Abaddon, or Khârn, it is clearly listed as such. This is more likely an oversight in the rules which wasn't picked up by FW's neckbeards testers (a problem inherent with people who know how it *should* be played rather than by those who glitch or attempt to abuse the system in computer games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hivey Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 i did something crazy, and emailed FW about this. Hi ******,In accordance with Imperial decree 6789123476924 I have forwarded your rules question on to the writing scriviners who will take them into account for upcoming corrective documents (FAQ's). In the mean time I would recommend that you discuss your question with your gaming group and see what great answers you can come up with! Don't forget there is always The Golden Rule that will help you out in most situations. i wonder if theyre getting annoyed with my emails? ive sent 3 or 4 in the past month or so, ha. Bat33.1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I've never seen them reply before they have given an answer before. The problem here is RAW vs RAI the age old battle which is right and which is wrong. In my honest opinion if anyone tries to Dynat a power dagger they are getting a slap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I've never seen them reply before they have given an answer before. The problem here is RAW vs RAI the age old battle which is right and which is wrong. In my honest opinion if anyone tries to Dynat a power dagger they are getting a slap. I'd say in this case, since Dynat already has a Thunderhammer and Power Sword + a special rule for using both in combat that giving him a power dagger might cause more headaches than not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Still not sure why he doesn't have a Paragon Blade. Or has 4 attacks base. It wouldn't make him broken, but it would put him more in line with other Praetors (which he is after all). Still, whack him with Headhunters and he's effective S4.5 so it's alright in the end. Prodigal Son of Magnus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Hesh Kadesh thanks for expaining. RAW then. And really this email from FW sounds really insulting to me. So basically: roll a dice, on 4+ you win? Edited April 30, 2015 by rendingon1+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4021974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 It seems perfectly reasonable that Dynat has reduced attacks as I see him more of a tactician than a brawler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4022439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 My first post! yay! What do you think of this combo: Step 0: Armillus Dynat Step 1: Saboteur with combat augment array Step 2: Outflank into the enemy's deployment zone Step 3: Sabotage attack with combat augment array (6) AND "Harrowing" +1 on damage table Step 4: any "normal" vehicle = target destroyed for granted or - (1+D3) hull points for super heavies Woth the points? Hey what kind of list are you running with this plan? like point level? I want to gage out what an effective list would be for Alpha Legion, maybe considering it in the future as an alternate list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4028177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Any one run a mec list with Hydra row? Was thinking on 3 sq in rhinos destroyers in LR with dynat with exploratory web. And taking siege term as traitors but DS them in. Going with tank hunter. Not build this list with set opponent in mind just want to bring somthing different to next game night. Adding typhoon in LOW spot. Edited May 5, 2015 by shaun03 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4031251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Should be quite good. Consider taking a Siege Breaker for Tank Hunter. It gives you a Nuncio Vox able to Deep Strike in and pull down accurate Medusa fire. Remember that the Land Raider doesn't have the assault vehicle rule meaning that you're limited to firing bolt pistols and throwing a phosphex bomb or two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4031539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Yeah I like taking just to lower the reserves rolls, and find its a good head game as well scouting LR. Rad Ml with bs5 is nice as well, and who doesn't like toss out some phosphors. good call on the SB I was leaning towards taking the saboteur and pulling instance kill on any tanks. But I want hold off on that, don't want to abuses it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4031681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Anyone think it's :cussed that FW is pushing out blue marines before they get our stuff out, they haven't finished the legions that are already in the books released, but dropping :cuss for legion that hasn't been unveiled yet. On tactic side I ran version of mec list agsint a NL list using there ROW, pull off s small victory do object. But terror sqs are no joke and I failed 2 fear test but luckily the dice gods made it up to me and I was able to rally. v6v77 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4039066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Ehh, let them release every other legion. It's all fair game for us too. I am waiting for Alpharius and Corax though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4039090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I cannot wait for Alpharius to be released, and maybe one day headhunters....ohhhh yeaaaaaah ak1508 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4039694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 What page and book number does it describe the consul information? I want to see the upgrade options for the saboteur and see how much he costs in total to destroy a vehicle on the first turn lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4040186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 What page and book number does it describe the consul information? I want to see the upgrade options for the saboteur and see how much he costs in total to destroy a vehicle on the first turn lol The Saboteur is in the Alpha Legion section of Book 3 or the Alpha Legion section of the Legions Mini book. So, which book do you have? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4040194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nookie Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have all the books, and I have seen the section on the Alpha Legion, I just mean it says 30pts, but its an upgrade to a consul right? Where is the upgrade options for the consuls? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4040339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I have all the books, and I have seen the section on the Alpha Legion, I just mean it says 30pts, but its an upgrade to a consul right? Where is the upgrade options for the consuls? Consuls are Base 50 before Gear. Prices range from 30-45, Generally. Consuls Upgrade Options are on their page(s) in LA:CAL and Berayal. They're on the reverse of their Unit Entry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4040342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Any one make good use of the pride of the legion ROW? Not from taking term but tricking out vet tact sq.? The basically end up with 2 special rules which can make for some neat tricks. And how is book 5 worth picking up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4053555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Why bother? Why not just save the points and take normal tacs anyway? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4054243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Sniper and infiltrate can be nice, but termies are better for infiltrate. Perhaps a core of termies and a couple vet snipers with missile launchers to support them. Rhino vets might as well be tacs though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4054565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hivey Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 on the subject of rites, what would be better for coils of the hydra: all infiltrating infantry, or all infantry in transports? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291629-hh10-30k-alpha-legion-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4054589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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