The Liber Cluster

[Captain Nameless]

Uploading to imagur seems to cause Google Chrome to freeze up.

 

I uploaded it to this website but it cuts of the top and bottom

 

Well this doesn't seem to be working either.

 

Edit: It is working, never mind. It just looked like some numbers and letters putting it in, but now that I posted it, it looks fine.

Anyway, Sons of Calderon.  Thoughts?

Edited June 27, 2014 by Captain Nameless

[helterskelter]

I tried to add the shiny ness that dizzy eye made and it tells me its too big, but it looks smaller than the liber one? Help is required brothers

[Dizzyeye01]

Depends on what scale you're viewing at. All of mine have been done in pixels, not quite sure if it'll help or not Edited June 27, 2014 by Dizzyeye

[Wade Garrett]

The Blue Sunburst in between the two swords looks a bit...Chaosy for a loyalist Chapter.

 

Also, anyone else think the Saneslau Mechanicum would benefit from having a bit of techno-barbarism added to it to set it apart from the regular deal?

 

Edit:

Actually, forget techno-barbarism. Let me throw this out there:

 

Adeptus Mechanicus + Blue Suns + The Orzhov Syndicate + Mr. House (Cyber-Emperor of the Mojave, not the doctor) + The Corleones + Weyland-Yuati = Saneslau Mechanicum

Edited June 27, 2014 by Wade Garrett

[helterskelter]

The Blue Sunburst in between the two swords looks a bit...Chaosy for a loyalist Chapter.

Also, anyone else think the Saneslau Mechanicum would benefit from having a bit of techno-barbarism added to it to set it apart from the regular deal?

maybe and offshoot magos perhaps as opposed to all of them?

[Conn Eremon]

The Blue Sunburst in between the two swords looks a bit...Chaosy for a loyalist Chapter.

 

Also, anyone else think the Saneslau Mechanicum would benefit from having a bit of techno-barbarism added to it to set it apart from the regular deal?

 

One of my plans for it (not that I'm calling dibs, it was just an idea that I might have "gotten around to") was to have a techno-barbaric like origin on a different forge world, with their break-away being seen as borderline heretical by some, including the parent world, that festers into a burning resentment when the Saneslau branch grows into ascendancy and dominance.

 

How much of their original "barbaric" character remains of the millennia, I hadn't quite decided.

[Olis]

I vote that when we say 'barbaric' we mean it in a cyber-punky way...

 

I've also added slightly more to the Aleph-Null Directorate.

[Wade Garrett]

I shall now elaborate on my earlier word vomit:

 

THE SANESLAU MECHANICUM

 

Many remnants of such Imperial institutions of the Liber Cluster that survived the Silence and the anarchic centuries that followed have diverged greatly from their progenitor organizations, but the Saneslau Mechanicum

is truly one of the oddest cases.

 

A melting pot of commerce, organized crime, and the tenets of the Tech Priests, the Forge World Saneslau survived where many of its less flexible sister planets were torn apart by the forces of Chaos, Ork WAAAGGHS, and the patchwork human polities that sprang up as Imperial control over the Cluster failed.

 

Lacking the backing of Mars and the needed framework to gather raw materials the normal way, Saneslau's salvation came from an Arch Magos who had begun her life as a daughter of the infamous Merkova Crime Syndicate.

 

These underworld aristocrats had thought they could gain influence over the Forge World by sending their sons and daughters to be fostered by the Cult of the Omnissiah, little realizing that those who ascend in the religion of the Machine God soon leave such biological concepts as "family" behind.

 

But the knowledge of extortion, blackmail, of using wealth and guile as a shield against brute force, all the shifty wisedom that a Merkova inhibes with their mother's milk...these were the techniques the rulers of Saneslau adopted.

 

While they lacked the skitarri legions and Titans of other Forge Worlds in the cluster, corruption and coin netted them far larger armies, as they cut deals with rogue traders, planetary warlords, pirate and mercenary groups, with rumor claiming they did not balk at doing business with xenos and even heretics.

 

Regardless, when the Mechanicum arrived alongside the Second Wave settler fleets, they found their errant brethren had spread their influence throughout the Cluster, indeed, in fairly short order they had drawn many of the newly arrived Imperials into their webs.

 

The Saneslau are consummate information brokers and arms dealers, with their tech guard contingent focusing on assassination, espionage, and disruption instead of the more straightforward methods of the Martian Orthodoxy.

 

They have been almost obsequiously eager to cooperate and coordinate with their lost progenitors, speaking eagerly of re-immersing themselves within the conventional Machine Cult...yet somehow, as the centuries roll by they remain an independent and influential presence in the Imperium controlled areas of the Liber Cluster.

Edited July 2, 2014 by Wade Garrett

[Conn Eremon]

Considering the original post had the Saneslau operating from a base strength of three Forge Worlds (as opposed to regular one), and have at their disposal Titan Legios and a Knight World, to give them this kind of mentality elevates them to truly frightening. They have enough guile to know how to use a little force to do a lot of things, and they have a veritable :cuss -ton of force to use as they please. It's like having the world's largest, most well-equipped army and make it excel most at covert ops and guerrilla warfare.

 

I'm glad I didn't come up with that, considering they are admittedly a bit of a self-insert.

[Nomus Sardauk]

Oh man, I can't believe I nearly forgot to post this, my brain is just full of holes right now. Here's a concept I dreamed up today for a hotly-contested location in the Cluster, for reasons that will soon become apparent.

 

Forty-Nine-Thirteen: Charbydis:

 

Given it's isolated position from the rest of the Galaxy the Liber Cluster holds many worlds and phenomena that most would consider unbelievable or even impossible, but when the 49th Explorator Fleet entered the remote binary star system Typhon-Echidna they discovered something truely bizarre. The smallest and most distant of the thirteen planets that orbited the raging stars, Fourty-Nine-Thirteen might have been missed entirely by the Fleet thanks to it's unusual orbit had it not been for the anomalous readings that had hinted at it's existence at the system's edge.

 

When the Fleet followed the readings to their source they discovered what appeared to be a small terrestrial planet, four-fifths the size of Terra, freezing cold and it's surface smothered by nightly snowfall, Forty-Nine-Thirteen seemed utterly desolate. However, his curiousity peaked by the strange readings which now appeared to be emanating from within the planet's thick, mostly metal crust, the Fleet's Archmagos decided to deploy survey teams and mining equipment to the frigid surface, determined to discover the cause. After a week of drilling the survey teams reported hitting a strangely resistant metallic compound that defied all attempt to breach it, drills heads wore out and mining laser batteries would run dry before any significant progress could made. Eventually the Archmagos's patience grew thin and the order was given to withdraw from the excavation site in preparation for more extreme measures; a pinpoint lance strike from orbit.

 

The result was immediate as the survey teams reported mere minutes afterward the lance fire had indeed broken through the metallic layer into what at first glance appear to be some sort of chasm beneath. Sending down a remote exploration servo-skull the Archmagos, alongside the Clan-Commander of the Fleet's Iron Ravager escort, watching in silence, then shock and finally amazement as their eyes took in what the probe had found. The vast chamber that had been uncovered was not a chasm, it was a cargo hold. The metallic layer that had taken starship-grade weaponry to bust through had required such firepower because it was starship armour.

 

Realisation slowly dawned upon the Archmagos and he quickly ordered the Servo-skull to link itself with the buried starship's systems and as the probe made the connection he rapidly accessing the vessel's last recorded logs. Sifting through the information and bringing the logs' contents on-screen the Techpriest explained to his bewildered companions the true nature of Forty-Nine-Thirteen, it was not a planet; it was a graveyard, a Space Hulk the size of a small planet. The strange readings that had lured them to them there were the still-active power cores of several of the hundreds of vessels that made up the "planet's" crust.

 

Word was immediately sent back to the other Imperial forces in the Liber Cluster and soon a concerted effort to secure the artificial planet and begin salvaging it's resources was formed.

The Archmagos, still studying the frozen ship's logs, could not help but recall an ancient Terran myth of a gargantuan sea monster whose very breathing had caused terrible whirlpools that dragged countless ships to their doom. Finding the myth a poetic fit for the grim world he named the planet after the monster; Charbydis.

 

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Good grief that took ages to write up, my PC lagging like hell certainly didn't help things.

 

And now for the new, The Scarlet Sentinels' banner (Thanks to Olis for the idea):

http://i.imgur.com/pKCMB09.jpg

 

Brilliant! I love it, it really gets across the whole "masters of the stars" vibe, although I don't believe we've chosen the motto yet. Aside from that all it needs now is a Chapter symbol...

 

Anyone got any ideas?

Edited June 28, 2014 by SanguiniusReborn

[deathspectersgt7]

Dizzyeye the All Seers chapter symbol is the all seeing eye over a Pyrimid. 

[Captain Nameless]

Wade Garrett

 

The Blue Sunburst in between the two swords looks a bit...Chaosy for a loyalist Chapter.

So maybe a skull or templar cross?

 

And my Umbrii seem to fit quite well with your idea for the Saneslau Mechanicum.

 

 

 

The Umbrii are a secretive group of tech-priest assassins. They frequently augment themselves with all manner of silenced weaponry, mechadendrites specialized for garroting and injecting poison, even grafting chamoline and other forms of active camouflage directly to their bodies. their code of conduct is known as Downing’s Principles of Lethality. They refuse to tell who Downing was, though most assume him to be the founder of the Umbrii. No matter what the answer is his principles are aptly named.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Captain Nameless

[Olis]

I shall know elaborate on my earlier word vomit:

 

THE SANESLAU MECHANICUM

 

*snip*

 

My word, no wonder my Conflagrators hate them.

 

I'd just like to pick you up on the word 'Mechanicum'* - as far as I'm aware the word isn't used long after the heresy and in the Imperium 'Mechanicus' is the common form of the name for the AdMech.

 

49th Expeditionary Fleet 

 

I'd just like to point out the use of the word 'Expeditionary'* - to me it exists as a term purely used during the Great Crusade. Personally I'd prefer a term more in keeping with the 41st millennium rather than the 31st - maybe it was an Explorator fleet, considering it's ties to Saneslau?

 

*Yes, I'm being pernickity. 

 

Anyone got any ideas?

 

How about a white saltire cross on a red shield, something reminiscent of Redcoat uniforms and their straps?  

 

Edit: Or, if it blends in too much, how about reversing the scheme and have a red saltire on a white shield?

Edited June 27, 2014 by Olisredan

[Conn Eremon]

Explorator, or I used Reclamation Fleets earlier, for finding worlds the Imperium remembers taking or having.

[Olis]

'Reclamation' works just as well.

[Dizzyeye01]

@SanguiniusReborn I was going through their profile bit and I believe that phrase was used in it as the motto hence why I used it, can be changed if wished :)

 

Also I was thinking for my 'rebels' group the guys that kicked them from power. Now it could be Heathens group and its all very fine and all buuuuuut I want to see if this idea is cool with you guys

 

The idea is dark eldar started abducting humans and their crazy doctors (Can't remember name) experimented on them, turning them into a mixture of machine and human ( think reapers from mass effect 3 mixed with the mechs from Wolfenstein The New Order and the Prometheans from Halo 4 ) and made them into an army, using them as a distraction that worked really well and took over the [insert name] System. Thoughts?

[Nomus Sardauk]

49th Expeditionary Fleet 

 

I'd just like to point out the use of the word 'Expeditionary'* - to me it exists as a term purely used during the Great Crusade. Personally I'd prefer a term more in keeping with the 41st millennium rather than the 31st - maybe it was an Explorator fleet, considering it's ties to Saneslau?

 

Aye, you're probably right, I just think Expeditionary sounds cooler. Still living in the glory days...

 

Anyone got any ideas?

 

How about a white saltire cross on a red shield, something reminiscent of Redcoat uniforms and their straps?  

 

Edit: Or, if it blends in too much, how about reversing the scheme and have a red saltire on a white shield?

 

Hmm, I'd have to pass on both; the white cross on red shield would blend in too much with the red of the shoulder pad so it'd just be the white cross which is a bit boring. On the flipside the red cross on white shield would just look too much like I'd just slapped the English & Scottish flags together, it'd look like I wasn't even trying ya'know?

 

@SanguiniusReborn I was going through their profile bit and I believe that phrase was used in it as the motto hence why I used it, can be changed if wished

 

Ah I see, I had hoped to get some suggestions and put it to a vote but that doesn't see to have gone anywhere, though I have grown rather found of the Coldstream Guards' "Nulli Secundus" or, "Second to None." I've been thinking and come to the conclusion it fits rather well with the Sentinels' character and history.

You see in my head, after being passed over and humiliated in favour of the Eagles they've constantly pushed themselves to prove they're better than the Eagles without resorting to the Eagles' "we're gonna help the living   out of you, whether you like it or not!" methods.

Edited June 27, 2014 by SanguiniusReborn

[Wade Garrett]

 

 

I shall know elaborate on my earlier word vomit:

 

THE SANESLAU MECHANICUM

 

*snip*

My word, no wonder my Conflagrators hate them.

 

I'd just like to pick you up on the word 'Mechanicum'* - as far as I'm aware the word isn't used long after the heresy and in the Imperium 'Mechanicus' is the common form of the name

Aww, fudgemuffins. That's what I get for being a snobbish Horus Heresy exclusionist and trying to pretend M41 doesn't exist.

 

And yes, the Umbrii would fit these guys like a hand in a glove...how does one say "Make him an offer he can't refuse" in binary?

 

As far as their resources go...3 Forge Worlds would be their original and two more they managed to either reconquer or build from scratch in between the Silence and the Reclamation, that's not so bad, really.

 

And perhaps their Titan Legion is mainly Warhounds, with a focus on scouting and electronic warfare, maybe fitted with stealth tech?

 

Also, I think their Knight World should be a desert with a

House themed off the Ottoman Empire and jannisaries, unless that steps on the toes of Heathens and his Lions.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Wade Garrett

[Conn Eremon]

Yeah, because stealthy Titans totally sounds like a power handicap. :p

[Olis]

Ironically enough (in a geopolitical sense) the red saltire on a white background is the St. Patrick Saltire - the old flag of Ireland (iirc).

[Wade Garrett]

Yeah, because stealthy Titans totally sounds like a power handicap. :p

Oh! I was supposed to be handicapping them?

 

Errrr...sometimes they feel sad, because their successes might make others resentful of them?

 

:p

[Conn Eremon]

Like I said, I'm glad it's not me pumping up my self-insert. :D

 

Edit: For the Sentinels, what about a plain shield and trident? Alludes to Brittannia, the Roman personification of the island, rather than British flag(s).

Edited June 27, 2014 by Cormac Airt

[Nomus Sardauk]

Like I said, I'm glad it's not me pumping up my self-insert.

 

Edit: For the Sentinels, what about a plain shield and trident? Alludes to Brittannia, the Roman personification of the island, rather than British flag(s).

 

Hmm, that sounds promising, the Trident would also allude to the Naval aspect of their character...

[Olis]

 

Like I said, I'm glad it's not me pumping up my self-insert.

 

Edit: For the Sentinels, what about a plain shield and trident? Alludes to Brittannia, the Roman personification of the island, rather than British flag(s).

 

Hmm, that sounds promising, the Trident would also allude to the Naval aspect of their character...

 

That's my two ideas smushed together! Outrageous! Where's my credit?! 

 

Nah, if you do go for it, I'll just be happy having somehow steered things sorta that way. ;)

[Hyaenidae]

*grabs hair and begins pulling bloody chunks out* 

 

Page five....

 

I'm on page bloody five of the Sereiki Lions...

 

*begins weeping blood and laughing as the madness takes him*