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In regards to state flags as emblems for the Eagles of Glory...Mississippi still flies the stars and bars of the Confederate States of America.

 

I'm not sure what the equivalent of that would be...something that resembles the pre-fall symbol of the Luna Wolves? Or the Emperor's Children, they had a bird of prey thing going on with their iconography so it wouldn't be quite so jarring juxtaposed with the rest of the Chapter banners.

The problem is the decree to remove any form of memory of the traitor legions.

Which means that once the teams of zealots with flamethrowers are done incinerating all records of the Legions of the Eye, how is anyone supposed to remember what, say, the Emperor's Children pre-fall symbol was? All the records were torched or taken into the custody of the Inquisition to never be seen again, and everyone with first hand knowledge is dead.

 

So; if some newly founded Chapter five thousand years later decides its emblem is going to be a burning book, or a wolf's head-crescent moon, etc, how is anyone supposed to know they're using old traitor symbology?

Edited by Wade Garrett

Which means that once the teams of zealots with flamethrowers are done incinerating all records of the Legions of the Eye, how is anyone supposed to remember what, say, the Emperor's Children pre-fall symbol was? All the records were torched or taken into the custody of the Inquisition to never be seen again, and everyone with first hand knowledge is dead.

 

So; if some newly founded Chapter five thousand years later decides its emblem is going to be a burning book, or a wolf's head-crescent moon, etc, how is anyone supposed to know they're using old traitor symbology?

 

because the Inq will come by and say 'Nope nope nope"

Oh really?

 

This requires the Chapter:

 

1. Draw the interest/attention of an inquisitor

 

2. That the inquisitor be among the select few who has been allowed to view rare, highly sensitive and secretive information like the heraldry of the pre-fall Traitor Legions

 

3. That the inquisitor be concerned enough to act, and influential enough that he can convince a significant force to undertake an arduous task like chastising a Chapter for its heraldry

 

4. That the Chapter lack its own allies and influence in the Inquisition to get this guy or gal off their back

 

Edit: beaten to the punch by Cormac

Edited by Wade Garrett

I think a crescent moon would actually work good in place of the stars n' bars. It could be symbolic of the dark eve where Libertas was consumed by civil war.

 

It could be on a blue square in the upperleft corner, and the remainder is the blue,white, then red of the regular flag.

 

sneak peak at an upcoming renegade sm force.

 

 

 

Important note - my pc will be in the shop for a few days so ill get this together when its fixed up.

 

 

ok so this enemy faction will be up for editing by my fellow contributors.

 

the idea is they are a chapter that was declared Excom. Traitoris for the unsanctioned use of xenos tech (only the Deathwatch is allowed to use xeno tech).  they went on the run in this sector (what is this sector called again?).  basically they are a similar to the Relictors and Soul Drinkers stories, but with xenos tech heresy instead of chaos heresy.

 

 

sneak peak at an upcoming renegade sm force.

 

 

Important note - my pc will be in the shop for a few days so ill get this together when its fixed up.

 

ok so this enemy faction will be up for editing by my fellow contributors.

 

the idea is they are a chapter that was declared Excom. Traitoris for the unsanctioned use of xenos tech (only the Deathwatch is allowed to use xeno tech). they went on the run in this sector (what is this sector called again?). basically they are a similar to the Relictors and Soul Drinkers stories, but with xenos tech heresy instead of chaos heresy.

This little corner of space is known as the Liber Cluster, which is divided up into smaller sectors. If you have a band of renegades that uses lots of xenotech, then may I suggest you settle them down somewhere in the Englican sector? There is a watchfortress set up there that is making initial excursions into the impenetrable darkness, known as Garand, where myriad xenos species and empires run rampant. Your renegades could reside there and maybe make an appearance in the Liber Deathwatch story I've been brainstorming. ;)

 

But 'tis only a suggestion, the Cluster is vast and there are many places for renegade astartes to survive.

 

 

 

sneak peak at an upcoming renegade sm force.

 

 

 

Important note - my pc will be in the shop for a few days so ill get this together when its fixed up.

ok so this enemy faction will be up for editing by my fellow contributors.

 

the idea is they are a chapter that was declared Excom. Traitoris for the unsanctioned use of xenos tech (only the Deathwatch is allowed to use xeno tech). they went on the run in this sector (what is this sector called again?). basically they are a similar to the Relictors and Soul Drinkers stories, but with xenos tech heresy instead of chaos heresy.

This little corner of space is known as the Liber Cluster, which is divided up into smaller sectors. If you have a band of renegades that uses lots of xenotech, then may I suggest you settle them down somewhere in the Englican sector? There is a watchfortress set up there that is making initial excursions into the impenetrable darkness, known as Garand, where myriad xenos species and empires run rampant. Your renegades could reside there and maybe make an appearance in the Liber Deathwatch story I've been brainstorming. :wink:

 

But 'tis only a suggestion, the Cluster is vast and there are many places for renegade astartes to survive.

 

 

o...well thats easy...

 

I like that idea! i guess i should read a few pages back...only down side of awesome threads = PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES

 

and yea if you want to put the into a Deathwatch story go ahead.  ill try and get the basics on the renegades developed for ya.

+++Scout Report 4E-O76+++

 

+525.M35+

++Sub Sector Colvin++

 

+++Xenos Sighting+++

++++Forward to Ordo Xenos++++

 

A lone Eldar craft was spotted by scout ships 3 days ago.  Pict-captures are hazy at best.  Reports suggest a large vessel, possibly a craftworld, although it was impossible to verify due to extreme range.  Connection to other reports of Eldar activity unknown.  Presence of Eldar could explain anomalies of the sub-sector.  Advise Ordo Xenos and full investigation.

 

+++End Report+++

 

++EDIT++

 

Note by Ordo Xenos - This is the last known transmission from Scout Flotilla B59.  Flotilla is presumed lost, suspected Eldar attack.  Advise that a Deathwatch kill-team be dispatched.

 

END OF OFFICIAL ENTRY - below is for context for fluff writing. i reserve exclusive rights to the craftworld's culture and fate, although i am very open to ideas for further story.  MODs - please excuse this brief heresy. The rest will be in Imperial reports so as not the stain the interwebs with xenos filth.

 

This is one of few confirmed sightings of the Karrneshla craftworld, which is inhabited by a combined Eldar and DE society, the only one of its kind.  The Eldar are the natives of the craftworld, while the DE are The Kabal of Seared Souls.  The Kabal of Seared Souls has many similarities to the other Dark Eldar Kabals, but it does have some defining differences which separate it from the rest of DE society.   The Kabal's Supreme Archon is Lord Aerazabael Dethezara, who is one of the youngest Kabal leaders in Dark Eldar society (although, compared to most races, that isn't very young).  The fact that the Kabal's founder is so young, along with the fact that the Kabal seemed to come out of nowhere, means that along with being the one of the largest and most powerful Kabals, they are also one of the youngest active Kabals in Dark Eldar society.  They say that Aerazabael Dethezara was once a powerful Dracon in The Kabal of the Black Heart.  At some point it was discovered that he had secretly decided to form his own Kabal and try to split form Vect’s direct control, with his own beliefs and culture at the Kabal’s center.  He had started by rallying together his followers and exiles, Kabal-hopefuls, and other rebellious members of the Kabals.  It would appear that the resources lost by the other Kabals over the previous years had been taken in secret by this new Kabal.  It had hidden most of its members in the areas of the Dark City that the Kabals care nothing for, waiting until it had grown enough in strength to defend itself from the others.  He named it The Kabal of Seared Souls and upon its discovery he led a rebellion aimed at taking the port of Commoragh.  Given that The Kabal was discovered earlier than he had planned, Lord Aerazabael Dethezara, now calling himself The Supreme Archon of The Kabal of Seared Souls, aimed his rebellion at capturing ships at the port to use in their escape from Commoragh because he knew that The Kabal was not strong enough to battle Vect indefinitely in Commoragh.  His plan succeeded in capturing enough ships to carry the majority of The Kabal into space.  He left a contingent of the most fanatical followers, fellow exiles lead by former members of The Kabal of the Black Heart, to cover their escape, knowing that they would die before being captured.  The Kabal of Seared Souls was outlawed by Vect for their rebellion.  They traveled constantly, searching for a suitable safe heaven.  And after being forced to spend prolonged periods in real space they found that their depravity from the time altering aspects of the webway caused their power and bodies  to start deteriorating.  Fortunately, they stumbled over a damaged craftworld and upon docking, they found the local Eldar asking for help.  They had been ravaged by a tyrannid splinter fleet and had barely won the battle, but their numbers were reduced to a tiny fraction of their former strength.  Given that both were in a crisis, they decided to join their forces and rename the craftworld Karrneshla.  Despite the fact that these two races are very similar in how they feel emotion and yet they have both travelled down completely different paths, the desperation of their situations caused them to see the practicality of merging.  Consequentially, they created a system where both races could live peacefully together and benefit from their union.  In this system, the DE used their numbers to jumpstart the population and provide defense for the craftworld.  The Eldar would help the DE by introducing them to the infinity circuit and using spiritstones to protect their souls, power, and longevity.  The Eldar essentially become the stewards of the craftworld’s inner workings and caretakers of the spiritstones, while the DE taking up the bulk of society, including the military.  The Kabal of Seared Souls became accustomed to Eldar psykers as they depend on them for repairing the craftworld and protecting their spirits.  The other Kabals curse and hate The Kabal of Seared Souls to this day for their blasphemous merge with Eldar.  Above all other aspects of The Kabal, this has earned them the scorn and hatred of other Dark Eldar.  Another important difference is its more complex hierarchy, which was brought about by its size and merge with the CWE.  Within The Kabal, the upper ranks/classes are more defined than in other Kabals and there is the addition of ranks/classes unique to the Eldar members.  Additionally, the overall structure is also more complex; The Kabal is broken into Covens, each lead by an Archon or Farseer, which vary in size and determine the power held by its leader. Above these Archons/Farseers are the Kabal Lords, they are the leaders of The Kabal under the Supreme Archon, whose leadership they never question. This increased complexity has several benefits: The Kabal is easier to lead and maintain control of, ones standing in the hierarchy is clearly defined, The Kabal is more effective in combat and only the fittest survive.  The Kabal’s tough history ( for both Eldar and DE) has made its members adept survivors.  Together, the union of Eldar and Dark Eldar of The Kabal, of Karrneshla, have made them very powerful and unique.

 

For further info see this - http://www.thedarkcity.net/t4215-the-kabal-of-seared-souls-new-draft

Edited by The Lord Marshal

+++Scout Report 4E-O95+++


 


+525.M35+


++Sub Sector Colvin++


 


+++Investigation+++


++++Forward to Ordo Xenos++++


 


Scout Flotilla D21 dispatched to investigate reports suggest a large Eldar vessel, possibly a craftworld, see Scout Report 4E-O76.  Flotilla also tasked with searching for Scout Flotilla B59.  No Eldar presence was discovered, nor was any trace left of their craft.  The wreck of 2 Scout ships from Flotilla B59 were found, the others were missing.


 


+++End Report+++


 


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


 


+++Rogue Trader Report 3B-G27+++


++RT-LC58411++


 


+526.M35+


++The Deep++


 


+++Xenos Sighting+++


++++Forward to Ordo Xenos++++


 


A lone Eldar craft similar to previous Eldar sighting in Sub- Sector Colvin was spotted.  Pict-captures were taken at extreme range and have been sent with report.  Confirmed Eldar craftworld.


 


+++End Report+++


 


+++EDIT+++


 


Confirmation of an Eldar craftworld must be investigated.  See Scout Reports 4E-O76 and 4E-O95.  No other transmissions received from Rogue Trader RT-LC58411

Edited by The Lord Marshal

It has been a while, but I will now finally post some information on my assigned battle of the 18 world crusade. And Wade, I hope you don't mind me adding another member to Inquisitor Androcles Enkidu Tamberlane Wladislav Siegfried Salvador's retinue.

 

The Stage

 

Baldwin,

here is some of the information you requested. I will be sending additional reports soon. If his Lordship requires any information in specific, alert me and I will investigate the matter as soon I am able.

 

         Here is the excerpt from a history of this planet, Andalus.

 

"Andalus, classified as a technologically advanced Feudal World, exists on the fringes of the cluster and, like Colvin Majoris, serves as a transport hub for its subsector. However, where Colvin is a mercantile and industrial center, Andalus is of a distinctly military bent, home to not only a militarum regiment, but also to one of the most renowned military academies of the whole cluster, the Schola Kellioth. The planet itself is almost entirely extremely flat grasslands with only a few exceptions. There is little Mechanicus presence actually on Andalus, save for the Schola Kellioth and a small planetary defense system, as a result of most manufacturing being done in orbital Mechanicus forges.

 

The population is made up of many tribes, each with their own heraldry and traditions. Skirmishes between tribes are not uncommon; though the local regiment, the Andalusian Rangers, has at times stepped in to keep things from boiling over into all out war. However, during the Reign of Blood, that is exactly what happened.

Andalus was engulfed in civil war between tribes who supported of Vandire and those who were against him. The Andalusian regiment’s efforts to maintain the peace quickly became a futile struggle, as many of their number left their posts to join with their tribes in battle. The conflict continued even after the Reign of Blood ended, and would have eventually crippled a large portion of the Liber cluster if not for the intervention of an unexpected individual.

 

The Great

Hans Delbruk Scot was a techpriest attached to the Andalusian Rangers and, in terms of skill at his trade, quite average. However, as the fighting raged on, frustrated with the constant interruptions provided by the state of affairs, he decided to do something; and so went to speak to the tribes of Andalus. They found him to be well-spoken, persuasive, and surprisingly charismatic. And through some had to be persuaded by more sinister means, Scot peacefully ended the Andalusian civil war.

Eventually, Magos Scot, later known as “the Great”, was canonized as an Imperial saint. The results of this have been varied, to say the least. Some, especially the Andalusians, now hold a great deal of respect for the mechanicus, while others are unwilling to accept a worshipper of the Omnissiah as a saint. And as for the Saneslau themselves; there are those who are genuinely proud of Scot’s actions, there are those who use his status as saint as leverage to increase their influence, and there are those that despise the perceived “theft” of one of their own by the Eccliesiarchy. Of course, what sentiments a Saneslau Magos expresses may be quite different from his intentions."

End excerpt

 

 

Regardless of any personal feelings, the end of the Andalusian civil war, allowed the supply of troops and war materiel to once again flow through the sub-sector, just in time for the beginning of the Eighteen World Crusade. Andalus, now finding itself on the border of these eighteen worlds, proved to be an invaluable supply line for the imperial forces on the front lines of the crusade. Even though other routes existed, none were as fast or as reliable as the one provided by Andalus. As we know, these qualities unfortunately made it an important target for the Sereki Lions

 

As always,

 

Your ally and friend,

 

Master Chirugon William Almoni

If the Inquisition notices, cares, or is even aware of the connection.

 

All three of which are pretty big ifs, moreso given the context.

Nothing is above the eyes of the Inquisition, but like the two missing Legions, loyalist descendant chapters from traitor stock is a fan taboo that is better left hinted or implied at rather than specifically made.

 

The Inquisition is empowered to request any force to whatever scheme they concoct, while the High Lords fear Astartes to the point they will gladly erase or toss them aside when they're not in line. Do not underestimate when either will try to screw you over. Even founding legion chapters have to tread carefully.

 

If someone makes identical heraldry or markings, it will probably go unoticed unless someone comes along to make a connection. Which is also easier to justify, write out, and arguably sounds more creative rather than just using it as is.

 

Anyway, I wanted to start revving up the Wartorn, but because they're so late and working two jobs and getting back into gaming (or trying to sleep), I find it difficult to even type stories.

 

Can you remove the Wartorn from the roster of Chaos factions? I'm not contributing anything and I barely maintain enough interest alone in working on my own models, let alone doing anything with my free time.

Edited by incinerator950

Okay, I've grown sick of just staring at this damn thing so I'm gonna post what I have so far before I lose my :censored:  and just delete the whole thing. I'm sorry for how little there is, especially how long it's taken me, but I've literally deleted and re-written this damn thing 11 times already. I'll try and get the next post to you guys ASAP but I'm not sure how long it'll take as I unfortunately and being sent of an all week retail course on Monday so my writing time may be more limited than before.

 

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CONTINUED FROM HERE.

 

The portside batteries obeyed, gargantuan cannons spitting salvos of energy beams and shells the size of buildings in a thunderous storm of smoke and fire as they collided with the Saint Jocelyn's voids, which began to noticably shudder under the harrowing barrage.

"Keep us rotating Helmsman! While the port guns reload we'll hit them with the Starboard batteries!"

"Aye-aye sir!"


The Battle Barge spun about as it's underside guns opened up on the Saint Jocelyn, pounding the Grand Cruiser as it passed through their firing arc, being quickly followed up by the Starboard batteries. The Spirit's shields shuddered wildly now, her own guns desperately seeking to return the beating in kind as the vessels traded blows.

Any moment now... Drake thought to himself. To it's credit the Spirit was putting up a decent fight but he knew it was a futile effort. A Grand Cruiser simply couldn't match the firepower of the Ark, nor take hits like the Astartes vessel could. Narrowing his eyes, Drake grinned as a flare of light heralded the Spirit's void shields finally giving out, the energy field popping like a vast bubble as internal generators overloaded and power conduits burned out.

"Gunners, Bombers! Target and disable the Saint Jocelyn's weapons and engines, but make sure to leave her intact for the boarding squads!" Drake barked, snapping into action once again.
"All fighters are to destroy any and all life pods they spot if possible, no sense in leaving them to make planetfall and cause problems. Number One, damage report, what's our status?"

"Shields are at 53% and holding sir, systems reports indicate moderate damage to the hull, mostly from boarding craft impacts. The Shipguard reports significant casulties but they have the foe contained around their entry points."

Drake nodded, his mind already formulating plans as he relaxed slightly, this fight was as good as done. "Understood, redirect any available Battle-Brothers to assist them in despatching the remaining enemies abo-"

 

"Alert! Proximity warning! Something is about to hit the bridge!"

 

"What?" Drake's eyes widened in shock, scouring the battle-lit void beyond the viewscreen for the reported interloper. No. He thought to himself with grim resolve. Interlopers.

There, past the viewscreen's reinforced armaglass, just barely visible as their stealth fields disengaged, glided a trio of sleek, jet-black boarding craft. The lamprey-like maws of their boarding hatches silently unfolding as magnetic locks powered up, latching the vessels to the viewscreen as melta-torches went to work carving through it.

 

"Men." Drake growled, his treasured power sabres gliding from their hilts and crackling to violent life in his hands as his crew thawed from their shock to look at him. "Ready your weapons and prepare to repel the enemy, we are boarded."

Edited by SanguiniusReborn
  • 3 weeks later...

Brothers, I have returned from the wilderness! It was a cold place where one must trudge leagues to even commune with other Moderators of B&C, a journey fraught with danger and peril. But fear not, for courage, bolt and blade have seen me safely to hell and back.

 

Or, if you fancy things a little more straightforward - I haven't had a regular internet connection for three months until today. Now I have to do some catching up. ^_^

Brothers, I have returned from the wilderness! It was a cold place where one must trudge leagues to even commune with other Moderators of B&C, a journey fraught with danger and peril. But fear not, for courage, bolt and blade have seen me safely to hell and back.

 

Or, if you fancy things a little more straightforward - I haven't had a regular internet connection for three months until today. Now I have to do some catching up. ^_^

Damnit Olisredan! I only sent you down to the road to pick up some milk!

 

On a more serious note, it's good to have you back brother. As for catching up on the topic that shouldn't be too hard, things have been kinda slow around here of late. :p

Damnit Olisredan! I only sent you down to the road to pick up some milk!

 

On a more serious note, it's good to have you back brother. As for catching up on the topic that shouldn't be too hard, things have been kinda slow around here of late. :tongue.:

 

Funny you should say that, brother, as I went and bought some goat's milk today just to see what it was like... Almost identical to cow's milk, I think.

 

Anyway. I must say you are right. Not a huge amount has occurred in the time I was away - I do see we've picked up some stray Eldar along the way, though. ^_^

 

I really must see about going back over my Devoted and the Untaken. I do believe the last entries were not quite finished with. 

 

Damnit Olisredan! I only sent you down to the road to pick up some milk!

 

On a more serious note, it's good to have you back brother. As for catching up on the topic that shouldn't be too hard, things have been kinda slow around here of late. :tongue.:

Funny you should say that, brother, as I went and bought some goat's milk today just to see what it was like... Almost identical to cow's milk, I think.

 

Anyway. I must say you are right. Not a huge amount has occurred in the time I was away - I do see we've picked up some stray Eldar along the way, though. ^_^

 

I really must see about going back over my Devoted and the Untaken. I do believe the last entries were not quite finished with.

Really? I always thought it tasted like watered down cow's milk. Now, almond milk is surprisingly good.

 

And it's good to have you back here, as well. I really do need to get galvanized and work on this one thing I have been contemplating for a while. Certain to shake things up.

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