The Liber Cluster

[Olis]

He seems nice. 

 

The funny thing is: You're probably right. He's nice for a Conflagrator. But he's still a brutal, pyromaniacal psychopath. Swings and roundabouts, eh? :P

[Teetengee]

It's purple. But barely.

[Captain Nameless]

I would have to say purple. A very vibrant shade of purple.

[Conn Eremon]

To put this to rest, when I created the Lords Inviolate I had intentionally selected a lighter, more pinkish shade of purple than that of the original Emperor's Children Legion. Which was the starting point. I thought it looked better coupled with the bone/cream color of the other half.

 

Anyway, I haven't heard of any other dissenting opinions on the shield & crown, so I'll message it off to Blaz now.

 

 

And speaking of which . . .

http://i.imgur.com/Iz4tf7A.png

[Ace Debonair]

Okay, one, nobody likes a fence-sitter Ace. Pick a side. The right side. The purple side.

 

I think I'll pick the side of 'getting back on topic', albeit with a hint of 'OMG A POWER FALX'.

 

That and worrying I'll wind up having to write all of Wave 3 myself, since nobody else has finished their stories yet.  

[Nomus Sardauk]

That and worrying I'll wind up having to write all of Wave 3 myself, since nobody else has finished their stories yet.

I'm working as fast as I can gorram you! :angry:

Also, that Son tho.

Edited April 28, 2016 by SanguiniusReborn

[Ace Debonair]

 

That and worrying I'll wind up having to write all of Wave 3 myself, since nobody else has finished their stories yet.

I'm working as fast as I can gorram you!

 

Put down the chainsword, SR.  

I have every faith that you'll finish the fight and make it awesome.

Have a nice warm cup of tea - that's bound to bring out the Scarlet Sentinel in you!

 

I'm just playfully nudging everyone else who, to the best of my knowledge, haven't even got started on their tales yet.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

Eh, if I was going to pick a side in colour I'd pick purple. It's a regal colour, Imperial one might say.....

 

I'll get my coat.

 

Since I don't have a horse in this race, if you need any colour pieces from other perspectives, I'll more than happily bang something short out.

 

I don't get much time between a newborn bub, work, and training so if I get something I can push out in less than a couple of days I'd be happy to give it a whirl.

 

As a side note, that artist is really quite good. Quite good enough to get him to craft a marine for my Storm Riders, so if I've ruined the flow of Liber Cluster I apologise.... but I also don't apologise at all. It will be glorious! 

[Conn Eremon]

Well, Blaz at least gets the purple. Hasn't gotten the other side yet though, as evidenced by the grey & purple and white & purple ones I've received so far. :lol: I ended up just giving him the hex and RGB codes. Edited April 28, 2016 by Conn Eremon

[Olis]

That's an interesting avatar there, Conn... ^_^

[Conn Eremon]

Happened across it online somewhere and thought a slight edit would make perfect avatar material. At least, for now. :wink:

 

And speaking of slight edits, there were some things slightly off with the Sons that I had to correct:

http://i.imgur.com/VpklNDg.png

 

All I did was rearrange the placement of a couple things here or there.

 

 

And speaking of happening across artwork online somewhere:

http://i.imgur.com/bjNS2u3.png

[Olis]

If we get enough of them together, maybe the Liber crowd could get their own page of DIY chapter representations. ^_^

[Conn Eremon]

Aye, spoke on that with Blaz, who was agreeable. I've got one already set up, minus the Lords Inviolate. He went back to his normal way as he said it made it easier for him to keep track.

 

But I'm sure if enough are commissioned he'd be okay with recreating a standalone set, especially if we tip him for all that work.

[Wade Garrett]

Eh. I'm just dead in the water on the Iron Ravagers/Angels Exultant front.

 

I mean...I have a vague idea of this planet that's just one giant fungus organism, that's where the Lions get their field rations from and also where the Mastodons are created because those things need a ton of calories but I don't really have anything interesting for the faceless cyborgs or the vampires to DO there.

Edited April 30, 2016 by Wade Garrett

[Conn Eremon]

Crashing this fungi, with no survivors?

 

In all seriousness, if the planet's value is to produce mushrooms, deprive the planet of its crops.

 

Why not have them strike out and demolish processing plants and docks? If the enemy can no longer process the crops, nor export it to where it is needed, that can count as a victory. Doesn't even need to be a particularly massive or intense battle.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

Take a leaf from Sun Tsu, you strike where the enemy is weakest. They don't defend their supply source, you strike at it and deprive them of a valued resource. Makes sense and allows the marines to do what they do best and in short order. They kick in the door and burn everything.

 

Wait, that's more Conflagrators territory. Blow it all up then? Maybe borrow some burninating for the crop destruction then....

[Teetengee]

You could always have them devolve and kill each other.

They have worked together far too efficiently so far for factions that are so greatly at odds philosophically.

(Maybe have them take two mutually exclusive approaches? Maybe one biomancies the fungus and another tries to destroy it?)

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

Is it in the chapters character to play both sides against each other?

[Wade Garrett]

Crashing this fungi, with no survivors?

 

In all seriousness, if the planet's value is to produce mushrooms, deprive the planet of its crops.

 

Why not have them strike out and demolish processing plants and docks? If the enemy can no longer process the crops, nor export it to where it is needed, that can count as a victory. Doesn't even need to be a particularly massive or intense battle.

Well, that can be done from orbit. That is, why land Space Marines and Guard to slog across the ground (the spongy, prone to collapsing and sending you screaming into the depths of the planetoid ground) when you can just blow everything up with lance strikes from orbit if simple destruction is the goal?

 

And Imperial settlers, Guardsmen, etc all have to eat too. That is, there are reasons not to just bomb what's basically a ludicrously productive agri world into cinders.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

 

And Imperial settlers, Guardsmen, etc all have to eat too. That is, there are reasons not to just bomb what's basically a ludicrously productive agri world into cinders.

 

 

Well that depends. It's the risk vs reward isn't it? Is it truly worth more to the Imperium as a potential boon as to allow the enemy to use it until they can take it vs cutting the legs out from the enemies supply lines and ending the war that much quicker that you don't need the world to sustain the extra Guard forces as is.

 

I know I'm not as well informed on the entire thing as you guys, I just like throwing my two cents in. 

 

If I'm missing the mark significantly just tell me to buzz off. 

[helterskelter]

All this talk of power falx stirs memory of my doomsayers veteran :p

Hopefully the battlefleet gothic space marine fleet will get custom colour options!

How's the story going teetengee?

[Teetengee]

OK, I have been suuuuuper busy for a while, but I am hoping to have something done or mostly done by ETL.

[Wade Garrett]

@Grey Hunter

 

The thing about the Eighteen Worlds Crusade is that it's a reclamation, not a full on purge. That is, ideally the forges, mines, resources etc of ibn-Khroda's fief can be claimed (sort of) intact and go from supplying his armies to supplying the Imperium.

 

Unless you ask the Black Judges or Conflagrators, then the goal is totally "Kill everyone, smash everything, set the bodies and rubble ablaze, shoot all the fires".

[Conn Eremon]

 

Crashing this fungi, with no survivors?

 

In all seriousness, if the planet's value is to produce mushrooms, deprive the planet of its crops.

 

Why not have them strike out and demolish processing plants and docks? If the enemy can no longer process the crops, nor export it to where it is needed, that can count as a victory. Doesn't even need to be a particularly massive or intense battle.

Well, that can be done from orbit. That is, why land Space Marines and Guard to slog across the ground (the spongy, prone to collapsing and sending you screaming into the depths of the planetoid ground) when you can just blow everything up with lance strikes from orbit if simple destruction is the goal?

 

And Imperial settlers, Guardsmen, etc all have to eat too. That is, there are reasons not to just bomb what's basically a ludicrously productive agri world into cinders.

That question can be leveled at nearly every planetary assault, the point is to give a reason.

 

Why don't they just sit in orbit and blow everything up?

 

Well, maybe orbital defenses are too great, so they offload Marines and back out to a safer distance.

 

Maybe the Iron Ravagers don't want to cause utter destruction on valuable machinery and want to keep it intact, forcing the Angels to assist.

 

Maybe the Angels Exultant go all Angron-at-Isstvan-III, and the Ravagers are forced to cancel the strike.

 

Maybe the Loyalist efforts need this world, intact, like right now, because recent enemy raids has left whole battlegroups in danger of starving to death.

 

Maybe it's more than one thing, maybe there's more besides.

[Wade Garrett]

Oh, yeah.

 

I mean...I'm sorry if I'm coming across as a miserable cuss trying to kick everyone's productive contributions to getting me around this writer's block I'm having in the shins for no reason beyond miserable cussedness.

 

I'm more annoyed than I should be by the block, stuff is going on IRL, and I just got bounced from a Rogue Trader game because a Missionary that wants to convert xenos to the worship of the God Emperor (Rudyard Kipling, but with more torture and brainwashing) is the BIGGEST HERESY...

 

None of which is especially relevant to the 18 Worlds Crusade or you guys, so...my apologies, please bear with me as I miserably cuss about and maybe inflicting a horrific defeat on the Ravagers and Angels will make me feel better. :p

Edited April 30, 2016 by Wade Garrett