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Well, most of us care for the sake of organization and personal background.

 

In my case I simply don't have an interest in the majority of the Heresy.

 

Speaking of, the medpacks for the apothecary are in and I can figure oyt where to apply them when I get off from my second job today.

@ Conn Eremon: You're quite right, of course. And yet, what harm is there in choosing a company number not yet taken, unless of course you are attached to a certain number from the start? I, for one, love the fact that we now have like 30 different companies - none of them "official", of course - rather than 30 4th companies, for instance, but I guess that's just me.

 

That said, having several warbands claim the same company number (and possibly coming to blows over it) could be a pretty cool narrative as well. Hmm....

 

Whatever helps us tell a good story, I suppose ;)

Order of the day. Check the following facts/aspects of the World Eaters geneseed. Comment if anything should be added or removed. This is a discussion on the genetic specifics of the World Eaters geneseed, not about the tactics or the traits of the legion, just of its biological template. Provide the title of the resource if you recall where the fact was written. 

 

World Eaters: 

  • increased strength
  • heightened aggression
  • brutal demeanor
  • combined with the "Nails" 
  • bronzed physique
  • "canine teeth" spotted (either mutation or geneseed quirk)
  • corrupted by the blood rituals 
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@ Tenebris: Hmm, the two things that strike me as odd are the bronzed physique and canine teeth: The former seems to be a consequence of the legion recruiting from a wide range of planets and ethic groups, rather than part of their geneseed, while the latter seems somewhat questionable, given the legionaries' expressly stated tendency to file their teeth to points or to replace them with black iron teeth altogether.

 

Just my two cents.

Edited by KrautScientist

By "bronzed" I meant "ripped" in the current modern terminology. A bronzed physique is considered as exceptionally muscular, defined. My font comes from Chosen of the Blood God, it is not meant as a skin tone. On the subject of the "canine teeth" my font was actually the picture of Angrons face in "Butcher's Nails" where his sharp, canine teeth are clearly defined and natural. 

Ah, sorry, my bad about the "bronzed physique": not a native speaker and all that :wink:

 

As for the canine teeth, I remain skeptical: It has never been mentioned in the written background, to my knowledge, except for cases where it seems to have been due to mutation/physical corruption induced by chaos. Book covers from the Horus Heresy seem like a somewhat dodgy source, because they are often invalidated by the models (see Ferrus) -- but then, such is all artwork, I suppose? There's also this, showing Angron with what looks like shark teeth, although it seems much closer to the iron teeth ADB describes.

 

Anyway, I don't think the World Eaters have a genetic tendency for enlarged canines. But, again, that's just my take.

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Speaking of our father...

 

Angron the Conqueror

Sire of the XII Legion World Eaters

 

http://s10.postimg.org/soxn4vmg9/Full_Size_Render_13.jpg

 

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Well, my skills at painting Ultramarine casualties are steadily improving... :P

 

As for the nature of the XII Legion gene-seed, I recall the only things mentioned in the HH books (FW, not BL) being heightened aggression and a disposition towards close combat. The rest (the World Eaters' "Legion culture," the Butcher's Nails, etc.) were traditions brought by the coming of Angron. Despite it all, the gene-seed itself had to be reasonably pure as far as ease of implantation went. The World Eaters consistently suffered massive casualties during the course of the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy both and they were still one of the more numerous Legions (150,000 Legionaries at the commencement of hostilities). 

XII bros,

 

This had slipped under my radar until this moment. Anyone read it yet?

 

While Lotara Sarrin (and her burgeoning bromance with Delvarus) is easily the coolest thing about Angron's flagship, this e-short looks really spiffy. 

 

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/heart-of-the-conquerer-ebook.html

Downloading it right now, because - let's face it - I'll always buy everything about the World Eaters, as long as it's written by ADB. Thanks for the tip! Will share my impressions soon, in case anyone's interested.

 

EDIT: Okay, here's my take on the story: It's beautifully written (as everything else by ADB), but also painfully short. Any if it's mainly the actual World Eaters you're interested in, this is an entirely nonessential purchase, seeing how it's mainly a short vignette dealing with the Conqueror's Navigator. Post-Nuceria Angron does get a nice little shout out, though.

Edited by KrautScientist

 

While Lotara Sarrin (and her burgeoning bromance with Delvarus) is easily the coolest thing about Angron's flagship, this e-short looks really spiffy.

 

Is this sarcasm because she shot him in the dome piece? Or is there a fire-in-the-loins style buildup of tension that I missed somewhere?

 

While Lotara Sarrin (and her burgeoning bromance with Delvarus) is easily the coolest thing about Angron's flagship, this e-short looks really spiffy.

Is this sarcasm because she shot him in the dome piece? Or is there a fire-in-the-loins style buildup of tension that I missed somewhere?

 

 

Well, their interactions could possibly construed to have a bit of a slap slap kiss angle, if you desperately want some romance in your bolter porn ;)

That said, I was always under the impression that Lotara and Khârn were the fan-preferred couple?!

I have yet to read the short story but Lotara is, hands down, one of my favorite characters form the HH series. I like her because she is a vicious woman, at the helm of a vicious ship, serving a vicious legion and who enjoys ever vicious misery that she can heap upon her foes. "No one runs from the Conqueror" is still my favorite quote from the HH series. I guess I have another book to buy...

 

 

While Lotara Sarrin (and her burgeoning bromance with Delvarus) is easily the coolest thing about Angron's flagship, this e-short looks really spiffy.

Is this sarcasm because she shot him in the dome piece? Or is there a fire-in-the-loins style buildup of tension that I missed somewhere?

 

 

Well, their interactions could possibly construed to have a bit of a slap slap kiss angle, if you desperately want some romance in your bolter porn :wink:

That said, I was always under the impression that Lotara and Khârn were the fan-preferred couple?!

 

 

Pfft, Khârn and Sarrin have barely had any real contact. Well besides that whole bloody handprint thing.

 

Not only did she shoot Delvarus in the head, he pulled her out of the wreckage of the bridge at the very end of Betrayer. Admittedly, she hasn't tried to teach him to play cards yet..

 

I have yet to read the short story but Lotara is, hands down, one of my favorite characters form the HH series. I like her because she is a vicious woman, at the helm of a vicious ship, serving a vicious legion and who enjoys ever vicious misery that she can heap upon her foes. "No one runs from the Conqueror" is still my favorite quote from the HH series. I guess I have another book to buy...

Yes! 

 

That's entirely the reason behind my infatuation of Lotara too. She's a woman who is smart and savage enough to earn the recognition and respect of the XII legion. The XII legion makes fun of Space Wolves, daemon possessed Word Bearers, and the faultlessly tactically superior Ultramarines. But Lotara Sarrin? A single World Eater crossed with her once. He got shot in the face :biggrin.:

 

"They won't shoot" is probably my favorite line from Betrayer if we're throwing them out there. 

Edited by Flint13

 

 

"They won't shoot" is probably my favorite line from Betrayer if we're throwing them out there. 

 

 

They did shoot, though :wink:

 

I certainly agree that Lotara's an amazing character! She also provokes one of Angron's best lines in the entire book: "You're always very brave with me when I am several thousand miles away", or something like that, to which Lotara brilliantly replies "Don't be childish, my lord!" Excellent stuff :wink:

 

I think it's a testament to the quality of ADB's writing that his human supporting cast are every bit as interesting and well-written as the 7 foot tall killing machines everybody loves so much -- in some cases, the normal humans even eclipse the Astartes in coolness, which is certainly no mean feat. Not many BL authors know how to believably pull that off.

Edited by KrautScientist

@ Cheexsta: Your question made me smile, because we've actually talked about this whole messy business of our legion's organisation before at least once or twice -- the matter just keeps getting worse and worse, it seems, with every new BL publication ;)

I thought I remembered reading it somewhere :P

 

In any case, it turns out I misremembered Chosen of Khorne anyway. I relistened to it earlier this week and it does actually specify that the dead captains were those who merely survived the heresy, rather than being a limit on the number of captains that ever existed. Heck, Brond is even introduced as the former captain of the 17th company (which I would have realised had I not skimmed over the company list in the first post of this very thread!).

 

That pretty much cleared it up for me.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hey everyone,

 

for those of you who - like me - enjoy ADB's writing, this will probably be pretty interesting news. You will see that I've taken the liberty to invite him over for blood and skulls ;)

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