Blindhamster Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Don't watch the Dark Angels stream if you don't want to be dissapointed how so? https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/08/artefacts-of-the-blood-angels-dec-8gw-homepage-post-4/ Are these relics all going to be represented within our new codex?? Nope Edited December 8, 2017 by Blindhamster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just seems very synergistic and cool. A little less gimmicky than us. We still have miles cooler characters though and nothing will outshine the DC and SG for uniqueness. Heavily considering an "Angels of Death" approach. Red choppy + green shooty. Brother Aether 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I'm envious of the shoot&charge stratagem. That would make Auto Bolt rifle Intercessors a lot more useful. And the re-roll charges in 6" trait would be incredibly useful for us as well. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Also little things like our 4++ psychic power was deemed too powerful yet Ravenwing Jink was buffed to a 4++! Indefragable and Chaplain Gunzhard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Also little things like our 4++ psychic power was deemed too powerful yet Ravenwing Jink was buffed to a 4++! Yeah but if they jink they can't shoot right? If that is the case they lose a lot of firepower. I understand that Dark Angels are getting some nifty things but we have +1 to wound in combat. I don't think I've see a trait as good as this to improve what Primaris can do, or any other marine for that matter. Blindhamster and Crimson Ghost IX 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Also little things like our 4++ psychic power was deemed too powerful yet Ravenwing Jink was buffed to a 4++! Yeah but if they jink they can't shoot right? If that is the case they lose a lot of firepower. I understand that Dark Angels are getting some nifty things but we have +1 to wound in combat. I don't think I've see a trait as good as this to improve what Primaris can do, or any other marine for that matter. Well and we have to use up one of our psychic power slots, number of casts per turn and need to get the roll off without the opponent denying it. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Jink is also on a very limited selection or units. I concur that nerfing shield of sanguinius seemed harsh, but giving DA ravenwing jink is hardly game breaking, just changes the ideal weapon to use against them. Come on guys, we have an overall great codex. DA deserve a great one too. Good for them :) Brother Aether, Crimson Ghost IX, Silas7 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I agree. We can cast our power on a bunch of different units while their jink is fix on very specific units and thus easier to controle for GW. I'm still jealous of some of the stuff DA get since those are things I wish we would've gotten (mainly the two things I mentioned above). :P On another note, lets hope my FLGS has the Codex in english tomorrow. I didn't pre-order and most shops in germany still get the books mainly in german unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4954920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On another note, lets hope my FLGS has the Codex in english tomorrow. I didn't pre-order and most shops in germany still get the books mainly in german unfortunately. Would be odd if they didn't. I would be really surprised if my LGS in the US had Spanish or German versions. But good luck and have fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) On another note, lets hope my FLGS has the Codex in english tomorrow. I didn't pre-order and most shops in germany still get the books mainly in german unfortunately. Would be odd if they didn't. I would be really surprised if my LGS in the US had Spanish or German versions. But good luck and have fun! Well that's not quite the same. English is the language that gets taught in schools everywhere in the western world and people these days are pretty much expected to be able to understand it while spanish and german isn't. Also it was more about them not having the english version than about them having the german version anyway. ^^ Edited December 8, 2017 by sfPanzer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just grabbed my codex and found my favorite unit is gone... the double Heavy Flamer Land speeder! ...HB + HF will have to do I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I'd definitely use the index for that. Just don't build any new models with that loadout and you're fine for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just grabbed my codex and found my favorite unit is gone... the double Heavy Flamer Land speeder! ...HB + HF will have to do I guess. Yeah you'd have to use the Index rules for that. Better just magnetize all the weapons and enjoy the double HF loadout as long as it lasts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Ghost IX Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just grabbed my codex and found my favorite unit is gone... the double Heavy Flamer Land speeder! ...HB + HF will have to do I guess. Well that sucks. Sounds like alot of that kinda thing in this coming book really. Space Marines have alot of that too? I remember hearing about biker characters and such hmmm. Index for now I suppose, don't like to see these kind of changes in the codex books tho. GW legal/corporate/whatever just can't let the game breath on it's own it seems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just grabbed my codex and found my favorite unit is gone... the double Heavy Flamer Land speeder! ...HB + HF will have to do I guess. Well that sucks. Sounds like alot of that kinda thing in this coming book really. Space Marines have alot of that too? I remember hearing about biker characters and such hmmm. Index for now I suppose, don't like to see these kind of changes in the codex books tho. GW legal/corporate/whatever just can't let the game breath on it's own it seems. Yeah vanilla Marines have those things in their Codex as well. CSM too. We really aren't anything special in that regard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just grabbed my codex and found my favorite unit is gone... the double Heavy Flamer Land speeder! ...HB + HF will have to do I guess. Well that sucks. Sounds like alot of that kinda thing in this coming book really. Space Marines have alot of that too? I remember hearing about biker characters and such hmmm. Index for now I suppose, don't like to see these kind of changes in the codex books tho. GW legal/corporate/whatever just can't let the game breath on it's own it seems. They do, yes. Things like Plaserbacks we already knew about but there was always going to be some extras. Just have to deal with it and hope the legacy stuff remains supported. Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Is he back for the new Codex and did he survive DoB?With New Codex in hand I can confirm the regrettable loss of Brother-captain Galan Machiavi. He is succeeded by Captain Antargo. We also lost several other Company Captains and other High ranking Brothers including Sephran. It seems the 3rd Company has tough luck with COs. Edited December 9, 2017 by LordCommanderSamirus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 My FLGS was supposed to get the shipment from the distributor today but it never came. That means I won't get my stuff till Monday at the earliest. Sad marine is sad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessPursuit Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 My order came today - the dice are huge! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 My FLGS got only one set of dice and tactical cards from GW and already sold both so I have to wait another week for those *sigh* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Book, cards and Hellblasters in hand! My only gripes (of which I think you all share): 1. Jump Pack Sanguinary Priests are index only (even though Chaplains, Captains and Librarians kept them...?) 2. Baal Predator is borked. I'm considering trying a triple flamer one though and just running it forward as a potential threat with auto hit flamers ignoring it's degradation in stats. 3. Storm Shields gone from TDA Librarians (I have an awesome conversation I now have even less reason to paint...) 4. Twin Inferno Pistols gone from Assault Squad Sergeants, not to mention no deep striking in range to use them... I'm wondering if there is some sort of defensive build we can go against enemy assault armies, relying on bubbles, heroic intervention and Red Thirst etc? Cataphractii Terminator Captain with Death Visions, Gift of Foresight and Hammer of Baal might be one of the toughest god damn bastard's on the game now though... Holy balls. Hitting and wounding anything T7 on a 2+ (re-rolling on the hits!) For -3AP and 3D while having a 2+/3++/5+++ god damn. And if he dies somehow you can use the strat to have him fight once more! Riot Earp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I even had the upgrade pack in my hand....but I honestly can't justify paying 10€ for 6 tiny relic bitz, a generic chainsword/bolt pistol two bare heads, a generic helmet and a bunch of shoulder pads I don't need due me not building them as parent chapter Blood Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Got my codex but I have to work all weekend and I can't bring my iPad into work. But I also ordered the collectors edition codex bundle with the cards and the dice and two extra sets of dice for my Christmas present. ^_^ Going to dig into the dex a bit more tonight and over the next few weeks but I am pretty sure I'll be starting out with Primaris & Vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 more hours before I can pick up all my goodies!I've been brain storming how I can make my boys in read stand out. I think I'm going to go for a more crimson hue and use Carrabough Crimson instead for a bit brighter look. Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Can tac sgts still take dual hand flamers? deathspectersgt7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/282/#findComment-4955580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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