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[Arkangilos]

Are any of you thinking about using house cawdor models for chapter serfs? I know we haven't seen models, but the concept looks like it would fit rather well (at least for my Sanguinary Crusaders)

[Charlo]

I'm not so sure, they're the junk people - seems the opposite of BA beautiful Renaissance art

[Arkangilos]

Well I mean, besides the fact that the tribesman are described as ugly, with lesions and rusty stuff? xD

 

You can always change their weapons, but their body appearance seems pretty accurate to me.

 

I mean I would mostly agree with you for the BA (though they could still pass as Baal tribesmen or even serfs drafted during the devastation of Baal), but for the successors?

Edited May 26, 2018 by Arkangilos

[Majkhel]

What about Delaque? Long coats, pale skin, sensitivity to light - pure vampirism if you ask me ;)

[Pendent]

My thunder hammer captain managed to wipe out a third of my opponents 2k point army in my game today in a single turn by himself.

 

Making use of The Black Rage, The Red Thirst, Honor the Chapter and Only in Death does Duty end he killed:

1 slightly damaged Stormhawk Interceptor

9 Hellblaster

5 Agressors

 

This comes out just shy of 700 points worth of stuff.

 

My opponent was playing Raven Guard and tried for a very aggressive alpha strike using Strike from the Shadows on his Hellblasters. He had first turn and advanced the Agressors forward till they were just behind the Hellblasters and had the Stormhawk just in front so that it could dunk on my Stormtalon. It was a pretty reasonable play on his part- the vast majority of my assault troops were in reserves and he was able to remove most of my heavy firepower during his first turn.

 

Truly, who would predict a single captain maddened by the Blood Angel's twin curses to rush forward with no support and then rip the heart from the enemy.

 

Here's a shot of him after he made the initial charge:

 

After his first round of attacks:

 

 

And here he is right before he's removed from the table:

 

 

 

It was really a perfect storm of both luck and skill on my part and a less than obvious misplay on my opponent's.

[Lhorke]

Played in a 2000pt tourney yesterday. One word.woeful.

 

Low points:

 

Game one (vs Custodes and scions)

Rolls charge on 3d6.... fails...(angels wing) re-rolls... even worse fail...sighs

Three turns to kill one model in game (one vertus jetbike)

‘I’ll use one CP To wings of fire my lieutenant..oh never mind he’s dead’

My Opponent using about 20 CP thanks to the Aquila yet only starting with about 6

 

Game two (vs Cadians including two doomhammers)

- ‘that’s 12 shots for the doomhammer cannon’

-‘wow my dice are on fire’ (opponent rolled 3 or 4 sixes vs CAPT smash)

‘Well played sir’ the point where on conceded after trying to shoot his Warlord with my lt’s MC bolter rapid fire. Hit roll to wound...snake eyes...

 

Game three (vs dark eldar)

- they ALL have invuls and feel no pain? (Looks at Bolters... wishes I had about 5 more squads worth)

 

Game four (vs raven guard)

- hello 10 Terminators in my deployment zone turn one

- And that’s not how to kill a Razorback (opponent had four or five)

 

Not a good outting. Good games embarrassingly bad showing by my army...

[Dont-Be-Haten]

Got a minute of free time yesterday and ordered my Birthday Captain from the local GW store.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on him.

 

Spot of good news also, it's looking like I may get a "Hobby" day/time each Friday after Lab 1200 CST. Going to get a game in 1 June hopefully. If not, some painting/then back to studying will commence.

[Pendent]

I just had a Dwarf Fortress-style "strange mood" where I was consumed by inspiration and just painted this model from start to finish during a single sitting tonight after putting my son to bed. The spear will be a counts as thunderhammer in game if anyone is curious.

 

 

[Majkhel]

Very nice!  

But... how could you do that to your Sanguinor??? 

[Paladin777]

That looks more like chaplain parts than sanguinor, except the head I guess...

[Dont-Be-Haten]

I thought Relic Blade for sure. 

Actually, I've had a bit of success with a Relic Blade, Bolter Jump Pack Captain with Artisan of War.

[Paladin777]

I think blood angels are probably the only chapter that makes relic blades worth it with the red thirst, otherwise the hammers are just plain better in probably 95% of all cases

[Pendent]

Funnily enough this guy started out life as a conversion for the Sanguinor before I realized he'd probably make a better Captain. He's the body of our jump pack chaplain model, the head of the sanguinor and a spear from a Prosecutor over in Age of Sigmar's Stormcast range.

 

It did occur to me that the spear could also be a relic blade, which can be really good against stuff below T6. I'll probably even run it that way from time to time but in general it will be a hammer. I'd be much more inclined to use the blade if it weren't the exact same cost as the objectively better thunder hammer.

[Majkhel]

Yes, I've ment the head. Poor fella ;)

Still a great model and weapon options from Storm Eternals are providing their worth.

[Indefragable]

Did a standard Battlescribe file update for new content and a lot of my stuff got messed up...Lieutenant card looks a bit wonky now...but points values seem changed too.

 

For calibration purposes, how much does Captain Smash cost?

 

Captain

-jump pack

-thunder hammer

-stormshield

 

I'm getting:

Hidden Content

129pts

 

Capt (base) = 74

jump pack = 19

thunder hammer = 21

Storm shield = 15

[Indefragable]

Funnily enough this guy started out life as a conversion for the Sanguinor before I realized he'd probably make a better Captain. He's the body of our jump pack chaplain model, the head of the sanguinor and a spear from a Prosecutor over in Age of Sigmar's Stormcast range.

 

It did occur to me that the spear could also be a relic blade, which can be really good against stuff below T6. I'll probably even run it that way from time to time but in general it will be a hammer. I'd be much more inclined to use the blade if it weren't the exact same cost as the objectively better thunder hammer.

 

Looks amazing...I wish GW did more with spears...such potential there. Definitely logging that into my future bits planning.

 

On a different note, it cracks me up to hear of a unit called "Prosecutors." Almost as likely to get someone who is not familiar with the setting to be like " :cuss ?" as "Librarians."

Edited May 29, 2018 by Indefragable

[Ornithologist]

Points looks good on the captain. 

[Spagunk]

People have posted some info on the knight codex and one bit that I think helps us is the House Raven army rule. They count all heavy weapons as assault and advancing does not grant a penalty. So they can advance and shoot at normal BS. House Raven being associated with us via Angels Blade supplement, it makes sense.

 

If only we had something similar to Baal preds, that would be tremendously helpful and make them actually usable. Even as a strat that costs 2pts or even 3pts would be totally worthwhile.

[Damon Nightman]

So it seems like I'm going to be adding a giant knight with a harpoon gun/arm to my next vow

[BluejayJunior]

Same here Brother Lemartes.

I am kinda going back and forth on it, because I think the Castellan might be better to sit back and shoot while my Blood Angels just push up the board. But the other one is just too cool. And I think it will still be good for some close support for my assault elements, while my troops stay back and hold objectives. 

[Damon Nightman]

I had the same exact thought process! Shooting a giant harpoon at things is way too cool even if the other one compliments my army a little better.

[Panzer]

I just can't say no to the super flamer and the harpoon. Even if it were the worst loadout in history of Knights I'd still take that one lol

[Indefragable]

I have to say, that Harpoon is pretty nuts. S16 AP-6 D:10 (yes, you read that right...flat 10 damage) + re-rolling To Hit against vehicles/MC's and does D3 Mortal Wounds on top.

 

That's crazy. 18" range is it's only limitation.

 

The Shieldbreaker missiles with Oathbreaker Guidance System Stratagem seems a bit much, though. Shieldbreakers are One Use Only 48" Heavy 1 S10 AP-4 D:D6 and invulnerable saves cannot be taken against them...while the Stratagem lets them fire out of LOS and target Characters at the same time. ...seems ripe for abuse to me, but we shall see. One shotting Dante?

[The Unseen]

I have to say, that Harpoon is pretty nuts. S16 AP-6 D:10 (yes, you read that right...flat 10 damage) + re-rolling To Hit against vehicles/MC's and does D3 Mortal Wounds on top.

 

That's crazy. 18" range is it's only limitation.

 

The Shieldbreaker missiles with Oathbreaker Guidance System Stratagem seems a bit much, though. Shieldbreakers are One Use Only 48" Heavy 1 S10 AP-4 D:D6 and invulnerable saves cannot be taken against them...while the Stratagem lets them fire out of LOS and target Characters at the same time. ...seems ripe for abuse to me, but we shall see. One shotting Dante?

I see people freaking out about them a lot.

It isn't that crazy really.

It's 2 CP, it hits on a 3+, wounds on a 2+, and is D6 damage.

The odds of it killing a captain equivalent is around 18.5%.

Even if you use another CP to reroll the damage die, it bumps it to I think 29% or something.

Just hitting and wounding is 55% chance.

 

When it works, its crazy, but it isn't happening often, plus you still have possibly fnp and bodyguard units.

[Majkhel]

Hmm, but they can have 4 of those Oathbreakers, so potentially 4 dead characters in as many turns. Pretty nasty.
The harpoon looks nice. I remember there was once a nice name for those in old WFB - the Spear chukka
The Armigers are to get substantially cheaper which is nice.

Edited May 30, 2018 by Majkhel