Leviathan Siege Dread tactics

[depthcharge12]

Storm cannons are awesome, don't know what you're all talkin bout. TEQs rarely stand out in the open long enough to get shot by something like a grav thingy and phosphex. Melta Lance is still great though.

 

Honestly, the best load out would be a cyclonic Melta Lance, drill, and phosphex. You'll never need to kill more than one unit with AP2 templates - plus you'll have ID for multi wound terminators with the CML.

[Raktra]

It ignores cover, why would being in the open matter? And you're podding it (right? right) so you'll be able to see them.

[Ishagu]

The Melta gun arm might seem the most boring, but it's easily my favourite weapon in terms of a focused and reliable function.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

The storm cannon is really good too... All the ranged weapons are. I am going to switch my heavy flamers over to Volkite.

[Guiltysparc]

The melta lance is nasty, 3 S9 melta shotshots hitting on 2s, you are turning anything to slag, AC or not. In my 2500pts list I bring the levis, one woth melta drill and the other grav claw, both with phosphex, both in drop pods, should be pretty nasty.

[Lord Asvaldir]

Really it's a very tough choice for what to take on the leviathan, bombard just wrecks any sort of infantry regardless of cover which is awesome, but on the other hand I'd often much rather go tank hunting with a leviathan, plus as slipstreams mentioned the potential to take down a knight all on it's own is just too good to pass up on for me. I'd love to see a leviathan just charge in solo and take down a knight all on his own. 

[Count Douclar]

With positioning the strength 6 can be useful, as podding can get you in position to hit rear armour.

[Balthamal]

The one and only time the Storm Cannon might have some utility is if you choose not to run the Levi in a pod. It provides some alright-ish ranged firepower whilst you move up the board but honestly, if you're foot slogging in, you want to be running in the first couple of turns because 1) this thing is a combat monster, especially once you give it a claw/drill and 2) fleet gives you a better chance of making it into combat ala point #1

 

IMO, one combat weapon is mandatory. Two S8 HoW on the charge, armour 13. Most things will die against this. As for the ranged weaponry, my preference is the grav purely because it deletes infantry and can make a serious mess of armour too with a little luck. Armoured ceramite? Doesn't count for :cuss here. That being said though the Melta Lance has a lot to recommend it. If you run into something that isn't totting AC you're bang in the money, if not then 3 S9 AP1 shots are nothing to be taken lightly.

[01RTB01]

Really it's a very tough choice for what to take on the leviathan, bombard just wrecks any sort of infantry regardless of cover which is awesome, but on the other hand I'd often much rather go tank hunting with a leviathan, plus as slipstreams mentioned the potential to take down a knight all on it's own is just too good to pass up on for me. I'd love to see a leviathan just charge in solo and take down a knight all on his own.

 

Mine did a couple of weeks back :)

 

Glorious sight. The leviathan then chucked the carcass and it blew up killing Eidolon. Leviathan Pilot must have had a grudge against Eidolon as that was very unfriendly fire!

[Lord Asvaldir]

A glorious sight indeed, seeing a knight fall to a leviathan. 

 

 

As for the ranged weaponry, my preference is the grav purely because it deletes infantry and can make a serious mess of armour too with a little luck. Armoured ceramite? Doesn't count for here. That being said though the Melta Lance has a lot to recommend it. If you run into something that isn't totting AC you're bang in the money, if not then 3 S9 AP1 shots are nothing to be taken lightly.

 

Grav bombard needs more than a little luck unfortunately to do anything to vehicles. Your average roll is 9, meaning you can't really rely on the bombard to even glance a rhino, it's all just the luck of the roll. If you're going vehicle hunting, I'd much prefer to have the melta lance. Even with armored ceramite, 3 s9 shots at bs5 is pretty solid. 

 

I think the real struggle though with the leviathan is choosing which sort of target you want to go after. I think it's either best to stay anti infantry/MCs, with claw, grav bombard and phosphex, or melta lance and siege drill for anti armor. Mixing rolls just means you lose some effectiveness. 

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I think the drill is a bit of overkill since its S10 anyways. If you know you'll be up against things like Knights then it'd be a great choice.

[Raktra]

I reckon it's fine if your primary target for the Levvy is gonna be heavy armoured stuff, but yeah, otherwise the S10 is enough if it's just a secondary role. The claw's something unique for its intended targets, at least.

[depthcharge12]

But S10 is about overkill for anything multi wound you'll likely face as well :P so the claws add nothing unless facing Castellax all the time. 4 A at S10 isn't always enough either as you can flop on the dice roll and only hit once (trust me, I've been there). So making an armorbane hit where it counts is useful.

[Slips]

The Snippy Claw mostly comes into its own vs a Primarch or (G)MC's

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

I tend to face off mostly versus GMCs and the occassional Primarch.

[Brofist]

I see two builds really:

 

-Snippy claw, bombard

-Murder drill, melta lance

 

Add phosphex or choom to flavor. One is great at killing TEQ, bikes, skimmers, and multi wound models. The other is there to pound the armour.

[Kastor Krieg]

I love the choom-dakka variant, but hey :D

[Theredknight]

Would you say that for bas, assault cannon nips are a defo? The extra 4 twin linked chances at rending something isn't to be sniffed at compared to the calivers 2 shots.

[Ishagu]

I think I'll stick with heavy framers just so I can use it in 40k also... And I think they'll be good at burning light infantry in cover.

 

But yeah, the Assault Cannons are a nice option for BA.

[Charlo]

Such a fan of Bombard, Drill, Phosphex, Choom.

 

Pod in, delete some infantry and be ready to take on anything nasty and armoured that will come for you next.

[01RTB01]

I'd be wary with ass cannon nips. Arguably something to faq in the future?

 

I still swear by claw, drill, choom and phospex.

[Guiltysparc]

I think I'll stick with heavy framers just so I can use it in 40k also... And I think they'll be good at burning light infantry in cover.

 

But yeah, the Assault Cannons are a nice option for BA.

 

i magnetized my nipple guns, it was pretty easy to do.

[Theredknight]

Yeah most things get magnet treatment.

If they faq that, what the hell is supposed to have assault cannons? Got people saying contemptors aren't supposed to have them, leviathans and deeredeos!

[Jimm]

I think I'll stick with heavy framers just so I can use it in 40k also... And I think they'll be good at burning light infantry in cover.

 

But yeah, the Assault Cannons are a nice option for BA.

As a ba player I liked this idea to but under the dreads rules it states it can not benefit from legion rules thus I assume no assalt canons. Still ba get enough from other platforms and it doesn't really need it either Edited March 29, 2016 by Jimm

[Theredknight]

It is any blood Angels model (including vehicles) in the entry

Therefore it can have assault cannons, doesn't have to have the LA blood Angels rule

Edited March 29, 2016 by Theredknight