Doctor Perils Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Inna does and thats because he's a special snowflake more than anything Somehow, I'd like to see a character have the special equipment "Plot Armour"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Abbadon has no arms, how can he be an eternal warrior? Hmmm that is a point but then you have to consider legions specific rules as well because some give you a fnp reroll, some ignore fnp etc. ADB will throttle you if you carry on like that Would be cool if he ends up here^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Perkenas miiight get it, but given the current trend I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Redd doesn't have eternal warrior anymore Hesh thought it made him too survivable. Ack, I forgot about that. Little off-putting to me, but Hesh is the expert, so I'll trust him on that. So, Fire Keepers have a generic EW access. Squig, thank you for the offer, which I'll take you up on. Two more slots left. At least, one Traitor should get it. Outside of the 4 daemon legions and the Harbingers, that leaves... the Eagle Warriors. That's a no go, too much daemons there. Maybe the Warbringers or the Jackels? Who are our hardy legions, like the Salamanders and Imperial Fists? Do we have a terminator legion, like the Sons of Horus? Abbadon has no arms, how can he be an eternal warrior? Hmmm that is a point but then you have to consider legions specific rules as well because some give you a fnp reroll, some ignore fnp etc. ADB will throttle you if you carry on like that Good point. Quick! Everyone insult Abaddon! It might summon ADB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) From the traitors I could only see the warbringers fielding a lot of termis ( cata... For the extra bling) and the predators caise their primarch wears terminator armor too. But those aside I see not one terminator legion on traitors side. Godslayers maybe, but they are all braineating scum^^ Edited September 20, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Karl Volkov Comparison Cost: 100 points, (Praetor) Attributes +1 WS: 5 points -1 BS : (-5) points +1 W: 10 points Total: 10 points Wargear Terminator Armour: 35 points Volkite Charger: 7 points Lucifer Glaive: 45 points [+1 S - 10 points; Murderous Strike - 10 points; Deflagrate - 10 points; Rending - 15 points] Total: 87 points Special Rules Feel No Pain: 15 points Fearless: 15 points Furious Charge: 10 points Total: 35 points Total cost: 132 point Unit Suggested Price: 232 Points Notes He's technically under the limit, but I think he's a little rules heavy. That's 6 rules in there, and he should be cheaper. What can of fighter is Karl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Notes He's technically under the limit, but I think he's a little rules heavy. That's 6 rules in there, and he should be cheaper. What can of fighter is Karl? I basically intended him to be very durable, which means in retrospect we could ditch Furious Charge, and maybe also downgrade Fearless to Stubborn if he was still too pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Hm.. If we need an EW in Terminator, Shaka(the later leader of the traitor Predators) could become on. He can easily be a legion champion as he is also one of the closest advisors to Andezo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Weren't the predators psychic and enhance themselves with biomancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Notes He's technically under the limit, but I think he's a little rules heavy. That's 6 rules in there, and he should be cheaper. What can of fighter is Karl? I basically intended him to be very durable, which means in retrospect we could ditch Furious Charge, and maybe also downgrade Fearless to Stubborn if he was still too pricey. Ditching FC would save 10 points, bringing him down to 222. The Fearless though... I rate Fearless and Stubborn as the same since Fearless comes with a couple of downsides, whereas Stubborn has no such disadvantage. If the emphasis is on resiliency, why does he have Deflagrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Weren't the predators psychic and enhance themselves with biomancy? Not entirely but they do make use of psykers. They even have psykers leading infiltrator squads. And yeah, their terminators make use of enhancements and Andezo (and some of their psykers) can use biomancy. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Cause that makes you a psyker legion and would rule ew out. By zhe way: how aboit givimg ew to the splitlegionaires to omprove them.due to the lack of a primarch fighting on their side. Shepards, morningstars, bloodlords and the other big enough faction which split from their family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 True Enough. Or, simply, Dreadnoughts (any kind and pods), Depthstriders (and dedicated transports) and Battle-Automata Listed are the only things able to be taken. As mentioned, this would be unprecedented. No RoW is that restricting, choosing to strengthen and encourage a particular aspect of warfare or a formation of a kind. While there are limitations of different types, no current RoW goes as far as to limit an entire army to the degree you listed. I'm uncomfortable with this idea and want to hear from the others, their take of it. Grifft, especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ok, didn't knew that restriction. Hm... Though I would like to give the Bloodlords some cool features, they are annihilated prior the Siege of Terra. Would it even worth it to give them an EW character? Would rather give it to the later splitter factions which succeed the Legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Post insurrection is another case as every warrior who survived is an eternal warrior^^ I thought more of thr likes when we do all those split factions we give them their leaders the ew to even things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Well, if that's the case. Sure, give Odonka EW But he will turn into a possessed kohen champion. Does that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 True Enough. Or, simply, Dreadnoughts (any kind and pods), Depthstriders (and dedicated transports) and Battle-Automata Listed are the only things able to be taken. As mentioned, this would be unprecedented. No RoW is that restricting, choosing to strengthen and encourage a particular aspect of warfare or a formation of a kind. While there are limitations of different types, no current RoW goes as far as to limit an entire army to the degree you listed. I'm uncomfortable with this idea and want to hear from the others, their take of it. Grifft, especially. True enough. Honestly it reads more as a Formation than it does RoW but the idea was "Big and Stompy" and PA Marines didn't really fit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Lol. Yeah. Chaosspawn is as far as I know out of the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 According to the prophecy, to summon Aaron, you need the 12 statuettes of Gladeuhlfeurrah rolled in ham, and a one-legged northern-forests gnome skipping around them during the full moon... Skalpynock, Kelborn, MikhalLeNoir and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 True Enough. Or, simply, Dreadnoughts (any kind and pods), Depthstriders (and dedicated transports) and Battle-Automata Listed are the only things able to be taken. As mentioned, this would be unprecedented. No RoW is that restricting, choosing to strengthen and encourage a particular aspect of warfare or a formation of a kind. While there are limitations of different types, no current RoW goes as far as to limit an entire army to the degree you listed. I'm uncomfortable with this idea and want to hear from the others, their take of it. Grifft, especially. True enough. Honestly it reads more as a Formation than it does RoW but the idea was "Big and Stompy" and PA Marines didn't really fit that. In which case, I'd suggest just focusing on the dreadnoughts, since they fit the theme of 'rebirth in a different form' that Santor goes through. I don't know about the battle-automata, are they the robots with human brains for CPUs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You forgot the summoning ritus: ABADDON HAS NO ARMS!!! Come thee forth Aaron and join our project as slave gmahahahahahahahahahha ( the laughter is important) simison 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 True Enough. Or, simply, Dreadnoughts (any kind and pods), Depthstriders (and dedicated transports) and Battle-Automata Listed are the only things able to be taken. As mentioned, this would be unprecedented. No RoW is that restricting, choosing to strengthen and encourage a particular aspect of warfare or a formation of a kind. While there are limitations of different types, no current RoW goes as far as to limit an entire army to the degree you listed. I'm uncomfortable with this idea and want to hear from the others, their take of it. Grifft, especially. True enough. Honestly it reads more as a Formation than it does RoW but the idea was "Big and Stompy" and PA Marines didn't really fit that. In which case, I'd suggest just focusing on the dreadnoughts, since they fit the theme of 'rebirth in a different form' that Santor goes through. I don't know about the battle-automata, are they the robots with human brains for CPUs? Thinking about it, the Fury of the Ancients RoW is pretty close to what I want. Just need to bolt some extras here and there and it might be serviceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 According to the prophecy, to summon Aaron, you need the 12 statuettes of Gladeuhlfeurrah rolled in ham, and a one-legged northern-forests gnome skipping around them during the full moon...Ive got some gnomes put away somewhere. Im sure we can knock a leg off one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 And don't forget to say the magic name three times in a row Sevatar Sevatar SEVATAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 True Enough. Or, simply, Dreadnoughts (any kind and pods), Depthstriders (and dedicated transports) and Battle-Automata Listed are the only things able to be taken. As mentioned, this would be unprecedented. No RoW is that restricting, choosing to strengthen and encourage a particular aspect of warfare or a formation of a kind. While there are limitations of different types, no current RoW goes as far as to limit an entire army to the degree you listed. I'm uncomfortable with this idea and want to hear from the others, their take of it. Grifft, especially. True enough. Honestly it reads more as a Formation than it does RoW but the idea was "Big and Stompy" and PA Marines didn't really fit that. In which case, I'd suggest just focusing on the dreadnoughts, since they fit the theme of 'rebirth in a different form' that Santor goes through. I don't know about the battle-automata, are they the robots with human brains for CPUs? Not human brains (you're probably thinking of Penitent Engines there) but yes, organic brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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