grendal1989 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 What is that turret from? I definitely dig the creativity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4403858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Looks like it could be a Chimera turret. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4403888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 From Furyou Miko's mention of a Shadowsword, it's likely the lascannon turret atop a Shadowsword (or other Baneblade variant) sponson. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4403919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Is anyone else having nightmares of frustrated former Adepta Sororitas players claiming their army is one of "Female Space Marines" (link NSFW), for the same damn reason Not really, no.... and if the Sisters ever did get canned, guess what my Sisters models would become? ;) The rest of the parts are available with the Exorcist kit actually. True, though more expensive to get that way. I'd actually need a second Exorcist if I ever get to playing again, but with my money going to other hobbies, ain't gonna happen any time soon (the purchase that is, hopefully playing at some point). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4403984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 What is that turret from? I definitely dig the creativity. Looks like it could be a Chimera turret. Chimera turrets are a little larger, actually. Nearly twice the size. From Furyou Miko's mention of a Shadowsword, it's likely the lascannon turret atop a Shadowsword (or other Baneblade variant) sponson. Yep, indeed, it's the lascannon cupola from a shadowsword kit with one of the little round bits that usually sit in those holes glued to the bottom as a bridging piece. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 True, though more expensive to get that way. Especially if you're paying full GW retail price... Even the resale market for Sisters is bonkers! Just have a look at ebay on any given day and you'll see secondhand sisters auctioning for higher than retail price. And that's for stuff which is still on the GW web store for the really OOP stuff it just completely mad. My personal solution is just to buy new, unless there is no alternative, from a 3rd party FLGS who offers 10% discount on direct order and 20% on shelf stock. It's not a lot, but enough to take the edge off. Not to mention not having to deal with ebay shenanigans like, auction sniping, absurd P&P charges and stripping paint, etc... It's usually fast(ish) as well. Typically i'll have my order in my hands within 10 days, usually in less than a week. The only exception to this was my 3rd Exorcist which took almost 4 weeks. Apparently GW was out of stock and had to cast more, I've no idea how legit that excuse was but it does seem a little suspect. Even then after that experience, I still use them. On Monday I put in an order 11 girls with melta guns (I only have 1 and need 12 for 3 squads of dominions). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Buying new with Sisters also has the perk of knowing that they'll actually have their backpacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Is anyone else having nightmares of frustrated former Adepta Sororitas players claiming their army is one of "Female Space Marines" (link NSFW), for the same damn reason Not really, no.... and if the Sisters ever did get canned, guess what my Sisters models would become? Holy Avengers of the God-Player (You) on a mission to purge Games Workshop of those who- in failing to update the Codex, or to design, manufacture, and make available new models- commit the sins of Sloth and Lust! In all seriousness, probably a female Astra Militarum unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Is anyone else having nightmares of frustrated former Adepta Sororitas players claiming their army is one of "Female Space Marines" (link NSFW), for the same damn reason Not really, no.... and if the Sisters ever did get canned, guess what my Sisters models would become? Holy Avengers of the God-Player (You) on a mission to purge Games Workshop of those who- in failing to update the Codex, or to design, manufacture, and make available new models- commit the sins of Sloth and Lust! In all seriousness, probably a female Astra Militarum unit. I would keep playing them with the SoB codex, and I just wouldn't play against someone who wouldn't let me (or I guess I could use my Blood Angels). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Out of interest, what are peoples thoughts on a homogenisation of Sisters towards being essentially an SM chapter? How much would be to much? Personally there's a lot of things i don't like about the idea but there's a few things that i think have the potential to be really cool. Dominions or Seraphim on bikes! Assault vehicle(Land Raider / stormraven), sky fire and non-forgeworld flyer access without allies. Of course these types of things would have to have suitable iconography and stylisation. By far my biggest fear is a loss of identity. One of the reasons I picked Sisters was because i don't like SM and associated chapters, i just find their fluff bland and not at all interesting or gripping. Their is something about the religious zealot, bad ass space nuns, who are normal humans, with top of the line training and equipment, that just draws me to them over the genetically mutated super soldiers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Out of interest, what are peoples thoughts on a homogenisation of Sisters towards being essentially an SM chapter? How much would be to much? Personally there's a lot of things i don't like about the idea but there's a few things that i think have the potential to be really cool. Dominions or Seraphim on bikes! Assault vehicle(Land Raider / stormraven), sky fire and non-forgeworld flyer access without allies. Of course these types of things would have to have suitable iconography and stylisation. By far my biggest fear is a loss of identity. One of the reasons I picked Sisters was because i don't like SM and associated chapters, i just find their fluff bland and not at all interesting or gripping. Their is something about the religious zealot, bad ass space nuns, who are normal humans, with top of the line training and equipment, that just draws me to them over the genetically mutated super soldiers. Basically I'd go with No. Sisters on bikes would be cool, but I don't just want a port of SM stuff. I want more unique stuff like the immolator, even though that's a modified Rhino STC. As I've said before, I'd prefer GW just leave it alone, because they would inevitably screw it up if they tried. If I though they would do it right, I would love a sisters update, but I don't want to be "budget space marines with a 6++" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I agree with not wanting to be "budget space marines with a 6+" but i would like to cherry pick a few bits of equipment that would help out our existing units be more effective. A couple of useful new formations (not just ports of our apoc formations) and/or decurion style FoC would be nice as well. But yeah i also want to see anything that can even remotely be considered a port, get a suitable Sister make over. RE: Razor back are equivalent to Immolator, Predator are equivalent to Exorcist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 On one hand just directly porting over Marine options with slight stat changes and points adjustments would still keep the armies feeling different (mainly by making the Sisters more horde like and shorter range) but on the other it feels like a lazy way to give Sisters a real update. Honestly the next book really should be written focusing on the Sisters as a fighting faction: how they go to war (to include frateris militia units in every part of the FOC. Basically just cheap horde options for people who want to represent a PDF Army or like crazy fanatics) and how they hunt witches. In fact I want us to be the anti-psyker faction. It's always been a big feature of the lore and our identity but not so much the rules (save giving your opponent a free psyker with C:WH). Only army we'd potentially boot in the head really hard is Grey Knights but we already were kicking their teeth in by outgunning them at short ranges and having three times the bodies. But that's just my greedy little wish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I've never really faced a bunch of psykers. I wouldn't mind having strong anti-psyker options (it's fluffy) but I don't want that to be the only thing sisters are good at. I agree with not wanting to be "budget space marines with a 6+" but i would like to cherry pick a few bits of equipment that would help out our existing units be more effective. A couple of useful new formations (not just ports of our apoc formations) and/or decurion style FoC would be nice as well. But yeah i also want to see anything that can even remotely be considered a port, get a suitable Sister make over. RE: Razor back are equivalent to Immolator, Predator are equivalent to Exorcist. Sure, I'd like to see some new equipment and stuff (don't really like formations), but I don't trust GW to do it without just making sisters not-Space-Marines-but-actually-Space-Marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Instead of Space Marine bikes, how about mounting the Adepta Sororitas members on mechanical steed models from 'Warhammer Fantasy Battle'? That gives them Fast Attack options without making them look too much like Space Marines? Bonus points for making the mechanical steeds resemble unicorns, with a heavy bolter, heavy flamer, or meltagun as their "horn." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Instead of Space Marine bikes, how about mounting the Adepta Sororitas members on mechanical steed models from 'Warhammer Fantasy Battle'? That gives them Fast Attack options without making them look too much like Space Marines? Bonus points for making the mechanical steeds resemble unicorns, with a heavy bolter, heavy flamer, or meltagun as their "horn." Not into unicorns myself, but adding a decent Cavalry unit into 40K is always a good thing. LONG LIVE THE ROUGH RIDERS! Although, as far as I know, they aren't really decent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I've never really faced a bunch of psykers. I wouldn't mind having strong anti-psyker options (it's fluffy) but I don't want that to be the only thing sisters are good at. I agree with not wanting to be "budget space marines with a 6+" but i would like to cherry pick a few bits of equipment that would help out our existing units be more effective. A couple of useful new formations (not just ports of our apoc formations) and/or decurion style FoC would be nice as well. But yeah i also want to see anything that can even remotely be considered a port, get a suitable Sister make over. RE: Razor back are equivalent to Immolator, Predator are equivalent to Exorcist. Sure, I'd like to see some new equipment and stuff (don't really like formations), but I don't trust GW to do it without just making sisters not-Space-Marines-but-actually-Space-Marines They have to do SOMETHING, or the Adepta Sororitas will no longer be competitive in-game, meaning less faithful players will abandon them in favor of those deemed "more powerful," meaning fewer Adepta Sororitas models will be sold, meaning an awful feedback loop that convinces Games Workshop that they shouldn't do anything, until the Adepta Sororitas are finally squatted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I've never really faced a bunch of psykers. I wouldn't mind having strong anti-psyker options (it's fluffy) but I don't want that to be the only thing sisters are good at. I agree with not wanting to be "budget space marines with a 6+" but i would like to cherry pick a few bits of equipment that would help out our existing units be more effective. A couple of useful new formations (not just ports of our apoc formations) and/or decurion style FoC would be nice as well. But yeah i also want to see anything that can even remotely be considered a port, get a suitable Sister make over. RE: Razor back are equivalent to Immolator, Predator are equivalent to Exorcist. Sure, I'd like to see some new equipment and stuff (don't really like formations), but I don't trust GW to do it without just making sisters not-Space-Marines-but-actually-Space-Marines They have to do SOMETHING, or the Adepta Sororitas will no longer be competitive in-game, meaning less faithful players will abandon them in favor of those deemed "more powerful," meaning fewer Adepta Sororitas models will be sold, meaning an awful feedback loop that convinces Games Workshop that they shouldn't do anything, until the Adepta Sororitas are finally squatted. I guess. But is that actually worse than what could happen if GW actually tried to "fix" sisters? On the other hand, they might do a great job . . . Either way, we have no control over it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Keep the faith. Our time will come. When it does, it will either be glorious, or we'll be worse off, but it will come. Even if the cost of it is aquila knight FMCs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 By Aquila Knight FMC, are you referring to the Aquila lander, Imperial Knights, and Flying Monstrous Creatures? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 No, I'm referring to a joke from a couple of years ago when fliers and flying monstrous creatures started to be included in standard 40k, where it was suggested that if Sisters ever got one, it would be something utterly stupid and ridiculous like sisters riding giant psyber-eagles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 No, I'm referring to a joke from a couple of years ago when fliers and flying monstrous creatures started to be included in standard 40k, where it was suggested that if Sisters ever got one, it would be something utterly stupid and ridiculous like sisters riding giant psyber-eagles. Know what? I'll take it. If it means we get something, I'd take psycher robot eagles. It would make GW at least have to look at something Sisters related. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Antaeus Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 As a non-sisters player, I pledge that if the army is discontinued, I will never refuse a game against a Sisters player based on the fact that their army is not currently supported, though I wouldn't mind seeing a combined Inquisition/armies of the imperium codex that included assassins, arbites, sisters and inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 To clear up my earlier post: I don't think Sisters should only be good at killing psykers, just that when you think of armies and their individual strengths we should be the best at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendal1989 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Instead of Space Marine bikes, how about mounting the Adepta Sororitas members on mechanical steed models from 'Warhammer Fantasy Battle'? That gives them Fast Attack options without making them look too much like Space Marines? Bonus points for making the mechanical steeds resemble unicorns, with a heavy bolter, heavy flamer, or meltagun as their "horn." Not into unicorns myself, but adding a decent Cavalry unit into 40K is always a good thing. LONG LIVE THE ROUGH RIDERS! Although, as far as I know, they aren't really decent. I use DKK Death Riders (in their special Cav-centric detachment, its a small buy in) pretty regularly with my Sisters (they are modeled with WFB Reiksguard with laspistols and no helmets). They are unexpectedly effective, so I don't think its impossible to make a good set of rules for human based cavalry. Granted this was Forgeworld, but apparently they talk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/8/#findComment-4404571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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