Chief Captain Redd Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Nah, Not her thing. She's an impressionist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4694458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Well, having a pic of the insurrection resembling monet would be awesome and special^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4694486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'd also be curious what a combination of the Insurrection and Impressionism would look like. Â Anyway, another note from Inferno. As the book is tallying up the dead at the end of the Prospero campaigned, there are mentions of thousands of Thousand Sons escaping the purge. 3,000 that vanish with Magnus right in front of Leman and the Wolves. The Divination Cult makes an escape to the nearby sea before performing a last-minute raid to grab a couple of landers. Out of the three, two escape from Prospero. Finally, around 8,000 Sons that were abroad are able to escape the purge. Â What's most interesting is the last sentence of this whitebox. There is speculation that the Custodians may have been created for the purpose of eliminating Space Marines. Does anyone know when the Custodes were first formed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'd also be curious what a combination of the Insurrection and Impressionism would look like. Â Anyway, another note from Inferno. As the book is tallying up the dead at the end of the Prospero campaigned, there are mentions of thousands of Thousand Sons escaping the purge. 3,000 that vanish with Magnus right in front of Leman and the Wolves. The Divination Cult makes an escape to the nearby sea before performing a last-minute raid to grab a couple of landers. Out of the three, two escape from Prospero. Finally, around 8,000 Sons that were abroad are able to escape the purge. Â What's most interesting is the last sentence of this whitebox. There is speculation that the Custodians may have been created for the purpose of eliminating Space Marines. Does anyone know when the Custodes were first formed? I don't think we're ever given a concrete date. Sometime before the Unification Wars I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 To my knowledge Custodes were pre-Primarch project, but MoM might have changed that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 The Ten Thousands were founded before the Thunder Warriors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Haven't read the Custodes part of Inferno. Isn't it stated in there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 MoM has a Custodian reflecting on how the Thunder Warriors were meant to be disposable, and how he knew it long before the Primarch and Legion projects began. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Thanks for the answers. So, the Custodians definitely predate the Legions.  Another note from Inferno. From this conflict, the Space Wolves wrote the Omega Codex, a treatise of tactics specifically against space marines. Made the Space Wolves extremely unpopular. It's a pity that we won't have anything like this in BotL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 I figure Alex and his loyal brothers, and Icarion on the other side, would quickly compile their own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I figure Alex and his loyal brothers, and Icarion on the other side, would quickly compile their own. Â That is true. Another interesting point was just how divisive Prospero would become. Legions would shift defences in case they were the next ones to be purged. It really shattered a sense of unity among the Legions. Finally, Horus used this incident in part as political justification for his actions or to seem more sympathetic since his supporters argued that the Emperor was undermining the Warmaster by taking care of this behind Horus' back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Akarro keeps detailed documents on how best to kill each of the other Primarchs from what he's learned with the Cutter's Sight, we could adapt that?**Unless that's snowflakey. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 I think Icarion could make some use of it, but watered down and keeping Raktra's original notes secret. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I think Icarion could make some use of it, but watered down and keeping Raktra's original notes secret. Â Agreed. Raktra has always been the calculating thug. It'd make sense for him to write some notes about what he's seen since he's the belligerent one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 A thought about Legion tactics and backgrounds; we should have at least some Primarchs bringing in influences from outside their home worlds. Such superlative tacticians should, as I imagine Guilliman doing, consume mountains of military theory and history to guide them in moulding their Legions. So Niklaas might look beyond Obsailes and form fast-moving companies to combat forces attempting to relieve the fortress he's besieging, John Lawrenz might take in elements of Pan-Pacific military organisation as much as Shakletian tactics as the future Dune Serpemts take form, that sort of thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 The VIth's tactics are only copied from Huron for Ghost Walkers until Daer'dd's death and the Legion shattering with only Redd's GWT acting like the Legion of old. Â Also, I don't think Daer'dd would have a single thought about killing his brothers, but Redd and Aandegg both might have thought about it post Baal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Has a BotL Legion assaulted a craftworld? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I bet the void eagles would do something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Bears did, it's one of their exemplary battles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Preds did as well, though it's a smaller craftworld allied with some Croneworlds. Something like a little Eldar realm at the fringes of the Imperium.  It'll be one of their Exemplary Battles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 Out of curiosity, did anyone claim the Legio Audax? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 What was that again? ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 The Ursus Claw-wielding Warhound Legion who fought with the WE Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Thanks for the answers. So, the Custodians definitely predate the Legions.  Another note from Inferno. From this conflict, the Space Wolves wrote the Omega Codex, a treatise of tactics specifically against space marines. Made the Space Wolves extremely unpopular. It's a pity that we won't have anything like this in BotL.  The Abyssii would have almost certainly begun compiling something very similar after the less-than-ideal first encounter with the Drowned, but they wouldn't have made it public knowledge except perhaps with the Shepherds/'serkers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 The 'seekers and Shepherds generally avoid sharing the same Segmentum, never mind tips on fratricide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/40/#findComment-4695664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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