bluntblade Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 So long as it's kept to a very, very rare unit that sacrifices a lot of the carrier utility that usually makes a Stormbird that size so handy, I think we can get away with it. Like, I'm gonna call now that the Shepherds don't get one, and the Legions that do field them have a couple dozen at the very most. My personal preference would be the Halcyon Wardens having ten spread across their fleets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 The Grave Stalkers wouldn't have any. It doesn't fit with their MO, they don't have much need of such a massive insertion unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Oh, I'm going further. It's sketchy enough on the tech-heresyometer that if Abyssii don't cater to a Legion, that Legion ain't gonna see it because no other Mechanicus sect is touching it. Especially with Icarion wanting to get Kelbor-Hal on side, which could mean pressurising the VII to loosen their ties in exchange for increased supply from Mars and elsewhere. Â P.S. MDRC has given me the idea for a choom-laden Akira pattern Fire Raptor. Potentially a thing? Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'm opposed to some things getting rules, the Maahres being one of them. As Raktra says, it can be seen as "just OP for the sake of it", and rules break the awe. Like how many recent AdMech books only describe stuff from the Codexes (all ten of them), it makes the galaxy a smaller one. Â That being said, I can see the VE having a few of them, if only for those who took Dakkar's Oath never to touch solid ground again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Don't know if it fits the Predators philosophy of war. Too massive. Â Maybe 1 or 2 for the Phantom Blades as they prefer rapid insertions via aircrafts. But no more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Fair enough, the rules were mostly fun theory crafting anyway. I'm happy for it to exist only in fluff, but I think a footnote about its ability to carry Phosphex could be an addition to explain why the Berserkers would be interested Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh  On the planet, the mighty planet The lion fights tonight On the planet, the dangerous planet The lion fights tonight  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh   Near the 'serker, the brutal 'serkers The lion fights tonight Close to Raktra, the evil Raktra The lion fights tonight  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh  Fear him traitors, yes fear him traitors The lion fights tonight Fear him traitors, yes fear him traitors The lion Domes for you tonight  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh  Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh  Crimson Lion Song oft Legend  Edited April 25, 2017 by MikhalLeNoir Raktra, Kelborn, Doctor Perils and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017  Also, Profile for the Heavy Beamer? :P Another point of note is that, per the 40k FAQ, if a blast/template weapon has skyfire, they can actually be shot at flyers iirc.  The Heavy Beamer already has stats in the HH books, it's the one that can be mounted on Predators and iirc Contemptors The FAQ states the exact opposite:  Q: Can a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature or Zooming Flyer be targeted by a Blast or Template weapon with the Skyfire special rule? A: No.  You mean the Heavy Conversion Beamer :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Has anyone seen the new profiles for the TAC squad, terminators, and dreadnoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 You have no idea how happy I am. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 You have no idea how happy I am.  Do tell.  And a link for everyone else: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/25/warhammer-40000-unit-profiles/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It looks interesting. Looking forward to seeing what happens over the next 6-12 months with Forgeworld and if/when they update. Even if it means doing another pass through all our rules I'm becoming more hyped by the edition change. Â And as I understand it there will be more info each day for us all to pick over :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Will the Heresy be translated into 8th? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 As of now, no. But in the future, yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 As of now, no. But in the future, yes. Â So, what does that mean for us? Should we pause the crunch-making and focus on fluff or continue apace? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Theres a few routes we could explore: Wait for 8th to hit then convert everything. Wait for HH to transition to 8th then convert. Stay in 7th. I'm fine with going back through everything and converting to 8th once we have the rules in our hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 If HH is converting, then I think we should too. At the very least, I think we should wait for 8th to drop, maybe wait for HH to catch up.  Until then, we could focus our efforts on filling out the rest of the books.  What does everyone else think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Continue on for now, convert if/when we get a clear idea of what is happening with HH in 8th Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I like rules-writing, so I'm happy to continue as-is then convert. Double the writing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Hmmm. I say de should fill the Brooks. Not sure if the conversion will be so simple and I thinko we can achieve More if de geht the things around done.. Afterwards we can move to the rules. So fluff, scenarios and charscters. Maybe charascter Profiles and descriptions so that we can swiftly create rules for Them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think we should focus on the story more so. I think Characters and units could still be created as conversion seems minimal, but vehicles might be more chaotic. Â Also I have to say, I REALLY like the new profiles, has me excited for 8th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I seconded Mikhal and Redd in this. Â Let's focus on fluff and fill our books and then get unto the rules. Â Regarding the profiles: I don't have any clue what they had changed and what these changes mean. ^^ Sometimes, I'm lucky to be a pure fluff fan. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh  On the planet, the mighty planet The lion fights tonight On the planet, the dangerous planet The lion fights tonight  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh   Near the 'serker, the brutal 'serkers The lion fights tonight Close to Raktra, the evil Raktra The lion fights tonight  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh  Fear him traitors, yes fear him traitors The lion fights tonight Fear him traitors, yes fear him traitors The lion Domes for you tonight  Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh Wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh  Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh Ee-e-e-um-um-a-weh  Crimson Lion Song oft Legend   Sorry for doublepost. Looks ace, Mikhal. He somehow reminds me of V.O.L.T.R.O.N. ^^ And who is Hec? Timon or Pumba? Edited April 25, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Woot? I see no resemblance. Â Â And of course Pumba Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Looking awesome Mikhal! Nice song too haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/50/#findComment-4720994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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