simison Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 So, Crucible-Omega will be retaken by the Loyalists, while, for the sake of simplicity, we can move Anvilus Nine and Retlaxi into Icarion's Dark Imperium. Last one, I'd need to double-check the map to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Am I remembering correctly that the Grey Knights never exist in the BotL verse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Am I remembering correctly that the Grey Knights never exist in the BotL verse? Â You are. The Nightguard are our equivalent. Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I was thinking, since our Warmaster doesn't fall to Chaos, that power check never comes into question; and the division of Legions only comes because of the Treaty; So does the Imperial Army ever split up into the Guard/Navy/Etcetera? It doesn't really seem like it needs to, I mean in a vestigial way definitions could be made, but ultimately everything could still fall under the same overall command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 *Looks up from cup of water*  ....huh. I'm inclined to think that happens, but I'm not so sure now. Kozja orchestrates the Treaty because he fears the Loyalist Legions out-pacing the Suzerainty Legions, but I'm not sure how he views the Imperial Army. This is especially interesting given that Kozja clearly believes that Astartes always trumps human so he might now view the Imperial Army as much of a threat.  On a side note, it occurs to me that since Kozja implements rule through Primarch and then Astartes, the Suzerainty is essentially an empire ruled by long-lived eunuchs. Sounds vaguely Chinese to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 With the Cleric talk I thought about Commissars and Iron Bears, because I can't imagine a son of Daer'dd watching soldiers get killed for discipline. Though that could just mean Tricendian regiments don't have Commissars. Â I don't think in canon the split was so important and more so Astartes not being able to command Mortal elements, so the Astartes would have opposition if they rebelled again. Once again I don't know if that'd ever be brought up especially since Kozja's arrogance in Astartes and the Warmaster being loyal might never be seen as an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Tricendia might favour discipline masters over comissars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Given Daer'dd's authority, the Tricendian regiments might be able to get away without having Commissars.  It's my day off, so I'm indulging my inner mythology geek.  Zeus - Alexandros Poseidon - Pionus Hades - Kozja Ares - Raktra Mars - Hectarion Apollo - Gwalchavad Artemis - Azus Dionysus - Morro Hera - Icarion Athena - Niklaas Demeter - Koschei Hephaestus - Daer'dd Janus - Travier Hecate - Andezo Hypnos - Nomus Hermes - Yucahu Nemesis - K'awil Nike - Jade General  ...audience satisfaction not guaranteed.  *runs off to see Despicable Me 3* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (Refreshes memory on Athena) Â Yeah that works. Surprisingly it works. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Norse Edition!Odin - AlexandrosThor - HectarionLoki - TravierBaldur- Daer'ddNjord - PionusFreyr - KoscheiTyr - KozjaHeimdall - NiklaasHod - AndezoVidar - K'awilFenris- RaktraJorgumander - MorroHel - AzusFreya- IcarionUllr- YucahuForseti - GwalchavadVali- Jade GeneralMimir - Nomus Edited August 27, 2017 by simison Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hod - a norse god, who was tricked by an evil entity (Loki) and killed one of his own brothers and fought against another one, "betraying" his family  Yeah, that fits. :)  I'm not quite sure about Hecate, could you elaborate this?  I rather had someone Prometheus in mind. Like Prometheus Andezo was censured by his father / leader. Prometheus gave meat to mankind. Andezo killed off an entire population in order to erradicate a chaos cult (although this was not necessary, as it turned out). Prometheus gave mankind fire and continued to ignore his censure. Andezo continued to research about how to destroy chaos itself and being obsessed with saving mankind. Prometheus was encaged on the stone and was condemned to be tortured by all eternity. Andezo condemned himself and his sons by joining Icarion.  While Prometheus was released by Herakles and pardoned by Zeus. Andezo was confronted and caught and entombed by Adewale. If he might be pardoned as well, no one knows until our 8th edition comes up. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 For the Greek Gods, isnt Mars just the roman version of Ares :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hecate is the goddess of magic. In other words, I simply went with the shaman angle, but you're right that Prometheus might have been the stronger pick.   For the Greek Gods, isnt Mars just the roman version of Ares  Well Janus is Roman-only and I don't see you complaining about him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 My quick as-i-awoke glance only let me spot Mars :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 My quick as-i-awoke glance only let me spot Mars  HA! ...yeah, so I cheated a little. To be fair, Mars and Ares are the only two that seem to have distinct personalities from each other to my knowledge. ...if there's any truth to Rick Riordan's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Its fair and, really, with how similar they are, I dont see why one couldnt just use both simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Put Hectarion and Raktra in the Ares slot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hmmm, not sure, for One, Ares is hated by all other god while Mars, as you've said, isn't which differentiates how most Primarchs view Raktra and Hectarion. So keeping them separate but linked seems fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Ares murders a guy for being handsome. Raktra fo sho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 How about Hec being Ares and Raktra being Kratos, the one and only God of War. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Sets fire to people who wanted to help him? Coated in ash? My goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 STOP. UNCOVERING. MY. OBVIOUS. PARODIES. Nomus Sardauk 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Well, at least we can be thankful Raktra didn't adopt Kratos' sense of dress as well as his violent tendencies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 I picture Raktra the hobbyist taking all these characters and just distilling them to create the purest sample of bastard ever known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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