hushrong Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Holy -snacks! That looks awesome! Seriously, I am drooling onto my keyboard, bud! You did a fantastic job on that helmet sculpt and brought that concept to life. One, look at it more as a tartaros termiantor helmet that has obviously been warped. Those terminator helms and mk4 share some similarities so it passes. Second, for the horns I wonder if you could remove them, and model flesh & exposed muscle with various tubing running through it into the TDA armor. The horns themselves, maybe take them and have them jut forward from the top of the head or around the sides then sweep forward like a bull. You could always give him big tusks too! ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I'm back from Greece now, however Sweden is almost as hot so more time is spent on beaches and playing boardgames than sitting alone in the dungeon. What little hobby time i've had has gone into sculpting mr Daemon's head. I'm quite happy with this! I went with the MKIV look as suggested by Hushwrong (Thanks bud!). Now the only problem is that those horns interfere with the armor, I might just save this head for something else later. MKIV makes little sense on terminator armor anyways. Back to square one i guess, with some more sculpting practice at least (I'm so sick of sculpting btw, every little bit takes five attempts at least). I'll try getting some berserkers done now, painting will have to wait until the heat is gone. Thanks for looking, and of course all inpiration and suggestions! (gah, the pictures looked less muddy and giant-sized on the phone, sorry:/ ) It looks less like Mark IV and more like Tartaros to me, but that might just be me:http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/e/e6/IHTerminator77.jpg ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Impressive work. ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Im loving this guy. If i ever go full chaos i will be trying something similar. ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagentus Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Dam this model is looking amazing!. That gs work on the helmet/face is awesome ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 The helmet looks great! I think if you removed the horns and have some cabling (simulating butchers nails maybe?) running from the back of the helmet into the torso it could work, like you say the horns are interfering with the pose a little as they are. I’m loving watching this come together though. :tu: ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 ^ what he said. Dont waste that head, it looks great! ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Awesome effort on that head for your Daemon Prince man. It reminded me of a Reaver Titan when I first saw it. Sculpting uniform surfaces like that is really hard work, I think you've done an impressive job on that whether you keep it for this prince or not. Although sculpting is time consuming and tedious if your not getting the effect you want, its still practice, and your going to get better. Think about it, what do they say... it takes 10,000 hours of practice to become a master at it? you've already started your journey! ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5131576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Sorry I'm late with the answers, I blame the sun, beer and old friends visiting. And thank you all for the encouraging comments, I'm not super confident in my sculpting abilities and almost didn't post that head. I'm glad i did, now I feel like i got to finish that damn thing:D Holy :cuss-snacks! That looks awesome! Seriously, I am drooling onto my keyboard, bud! You did a fantastic job on that helmet sculpt and brought that concept to life. One, look at it more as a tartaros termiantor helmet that has obviously been warped. Those terminator helms and mk4 share some similarities so it passes. Second, for the horns I wonder if you could remove them, and model flesh & exposed muscle with various tubing running through it into the TDA armor. The horns themselves, maybe take them and have them jut forward from the top of the head or around the sides then sweep forward like a bull. You could always give him big tusks too! Thanks man, and thank you for the inspiration! The horns will have to go, unfortunatly they bring a lot of character to the helm. Maybe shorter horns would work, I don't seem to have any suitable though! Which is where since I own a lot of chaos sets and moat of my minis are homeless, there should be like 50 pairs at least. Tubes and such will of course be added, maybe I'll throw the original neck there And bonus points for the :cusssnacks haha I'm back from Greece now, however Sweden is almost as hot so more time is spent on beaches and playing boardgames than sitting alone in the dungeon. What little hobby time i've had has gone into sculpting mr Daemon's head. I'm quite happy with this! I went with the MKIV look as suggested by Hushwrong (Thanks bud!). Now the only problem is that those horns interfere with the armor, I might just save this head for something else later. MKIV makes little sense on terminator armor anyways. Back to square one i guess, with some more sculpting practice at least (I'm so sick of sculpting btw, every little bit takes five attempts at least). I'll try getting some berserkers done now, painting will have to wait until the heat is gone. Thanks for looking, and of course all inpiration and suggestions! (gah, the pictures looked less muddy and giant-sized on the phone, sorry:/ ) It looks less like Mark IV and more like Tartaros to me, but that might just be me:http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/e/e6/IHTerminator77.jpg Impressive work. Thanks for pointing it out, I'm seeing the resemblance! I'm not at all used to these "new" marks if terminator armor, they seem a bit weird to me stilk:) Im loving this guy. If i ever go full chaos i will be trying something similar. That'd be great! Maybe do a later version of your world eaters? Its be cool to have a sense of history to the models, like Krauts 30k models Dam this model is looking amazing!. That gs work on the helmet/face is awesome Thank you, glad you like it:) The helmet looks great! I think if you removed the horns and have some cabling (simulating butchers nails maybe?) running from the back of the helmet into the torso it could work, like you say the horns are interfering with the pose a little as they are. I’m loving watching this come together though. :tu: Thanks bio! Yeah it sounds like you're into something, cables and stuff will be added for sure. I'm thinking of trying shorter horns, like a iron halo almost. The helm is bit flat without them ^ what he said. Dont waste that head, it looks great! Hehe it'll be put to use somehow, maybe it'll pop up later if I don't use it in this guy. But everyone seems to like it so I guess I'll have to keep it:) Awesome effort on that head for your Daemon Prince man. It reminded me of a Reaver Titan when I first saw it. Sculpting uniform surfaces like that is really hard work, I think you've done an impressive job on that whether you keep it for this prince or not. Although sculpting is time consuming and tedious if your not getting the effect you want, its still practice, and your going to get better. Think about it, what do they say... it takes 10,000 hours of practice to become a master at it? you've already started your journey! Thanks! Glad you like it, I'm still a bit unsure tbh. It's by far my greatest sculpting achievement so far though, I've mostly done trim and simple shapes. It's just that it's the head, the focus of the model, any mistakes will be so apparent. And symmetry is a pain haha. It's worth the effort when I get all this encouragement though:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5132645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Lovely sculpting. Really into seeing where this guy goes. I even eBay’d one of those Daemon Princes myself after seeing this project. ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5132647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Do it KDC! And no need for ebay, it's available in finecast from GWs homepage:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5132825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Could always look at adding the vent to the top of the helmet like the Termi heads have above? Or maybe a small row of studs/spikes to add a little detail. ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5132986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Well I think your doing an ace job of sculpting. if you need to do some fine tuning, the great thing about Green Stuff is how workable it is after its cured. if you want to take a fine amount of material away from one side to get it to match the other, try using a curved blade craft knife to scrape the green stuff. it works really well and you will have more control than using something like sand paper. Your obviously in the deep end working on something this cool but you've seen how much support you have behind you just on the forum, just go for it. although its a pain in the ass... you know that if you do something wrong you can just cut that piece out and fix it. not like sawing chunks out of a metal model where its a one way trip, Adding material that wasn't there to begin with is a lot more forgiving. Good luck to you, looking forward to seeing more man. Augustus b'Raass and ElDuderino 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Good, use it! It's too awesome not to. The only thing I would suggest is perhaps getting rid of the teeth and maybe make it look like the mask is melding over his mouth, if you get what I mean. ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I think you're definitely on to something with that head! It reads as a former Astartes helmet -- probably even a Terminator one if you make one or two small tweaks. As has been suggested, I think I'd lose at least one pair of horns (the larger, forward ones) and possibly replace it with cabling. I would also definitely keep the teeth, but maybe do something to make them look slighly less cartoony and more gruesome -- think Venom in the old Spiderman comics ;) ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Small step forwards today, tried on some smaller horns and began with the neck! Crappy pics since it's the middle of the night (as usual, sorry). I think the smaller horns work better, any thoughts from you all? @Bio The vent idea is something I've been thinking of, I'm definitely trying it if the horns don't work out! @PBB I've been doing a lot if cutting when I've done trim and such, it's a good technique for sure! Here the gs is a bit too thin however, I just end up peeling it off:) I'm gonna redo one if the eyes though, I think cutting is the answer, they're a tiny but assymetrical @DuskRaider Im not sure j understand exactly, but the whole thing is based on the jaws, I'm a bit too invested now:) but thanks for the suggestion anyways, you might even be right hehe, I'm too stubborn to change it though:) And I missed Kraut! Sorry! Oh man, now that you mention it, those fangs are a bit derpy... can't unsee it now haha. Guess that's what happens when you base it on an ork skull;) I'll have to sleep on it but my guess is that they'll have to stay, it's basically back to square one otherwise, I don't think I could pull it off with gs at least. Maybe they can be sharpened a bit with a hobby knife however? I'll try on a spare skull! Edited July 29, 2018 by ElDuderino Biohazard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 First of all, the tweaked head is looking great! Excellent job! :) And I missed Kraut! Sorry!Oh man, now that you mention it, those fangs are a bit derpy... can't unsee it now haha. Guess that's what happens when you base it on an ork skull;) I'll have to sleep on it but my guess is that they'll have to stay, it's basically back to square one otherwise, I don't think I could pull it off with gs at least. Maybe they can be sharpened a bit with a hobby knife however? I'll try on a spare skull! I wouldn't want you to replace them or file them down, but maybe you could use some really small teeth (I'm thinking of the ones that appear on those backpack "vanes" on the Warp Talons, for instance) to put them in between the bigger ones and make that entire daemon maw look more uneven and bestial? Just a thought... Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 That might actually be a really good idea, I've already ruined a bunch of those to use for cheat trim, I'll give it a try! If nothing comes out if it I can always use them to add a bunch of spikes to his forehead, as per biohazard's suggestion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Like this (best I could find on the fly): http://silviaquirosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/boca-derretida_7.jpg Edited July 30, 2018 by DuskRaider Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 @ DuskRaider: Dude, I cannot tell you how much I wish I hadn't seen that. Thanks for almost giving me a heart-attack there... :( ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Yessssssss :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Haha I'm with kraut, that's creepy as hell Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Haha I'm with kraut, that's creepy as hell Exactly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 That DP's head is shaping up beautifully! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Like this (best I could find on the fly): http://silviaquirosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/boca-derretida_7.jpg I was going through this at like 2:30 this am and died....thanks This guy is looking fanatastic. Really loving how it's all coming together Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338066-elduderinos-world-eaters-juggers-paint-in-progress/page/10/#findComment-5133763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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