Skerr Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Bow and Tzangoors? Too long. It makes sense the demon primarchs are targeted first. Hell if any of us were on the frontline of battle against demonic/ sorcerer forces and big bad leader type demon was on land or air he would likely be priority 1 no matter the time period or setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Boo-urns. That makes me sad. I had just assumed that they've better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 Sons Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Bowgors, Zanbows, zambownies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Considering the fact that the Scarabs and the Rubric sorcerer in the Twitch stream had Change powers and not Dark Hereticus, it looks like there is a chance that my dream of slingshotting a rubric squad up the table and warptiming in is not gonna happen hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Speaking of the twitch stream for what it's worth it looks like the Thousand Sons player used the Arcanite guys as cultists. You'd think they would have ported them as hard as they are pushing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No way they'd do that. Then no thousand sons player would ever buy the cultist models.. I dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhdan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No way they'd do that. Then no thousand sons player would ever buy the cultist models.. I dunno i mean, i'm not going to buy them anyway :D Arcanites all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Sons Sorcerer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 E-gors there nickname should be E-gors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomWolf Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Obviously they are Boats (Bow goats, also a spin on gunboat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnofiend Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 We could just keep calling them Skyfires. :V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhdan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 or the 'pew pew disco birdgoats' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nym Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I did some math on the Bowgoats / Boats / Zangboatswhatever and with a Shaman OR Prescience, they're better anti-tank than QuadLas Predators... With additionnal buffs (Shaman AND Prescience, Exalted / Daemon Prince aura, VotLW, Death to the false emperor), they're utterly disgusting. The amount of buffs these units can receive is outrageous. They're pretty much mandatory for any competitive list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I did some math on the Bowgoats / Boats / Zangboatswhatever and with a Shaman OR Prescience, they're better anti-tank than QuadLas Predators... With additionnal buffs (Shaman AND Prescience, Exalted / Daemon Prince aura, VotLW, Death to the false emperor), they're utterly disgusting. The amount of buffs these units can receive is outrageous. They're pretty much mandatory for any competitive list. Uh....for some reason I doubt that. What are the numbers you worked with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhdan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I did some math on the Bowgoats / Boats / Zangboatswhatever and with a Shaman OR Prescience, they're better anti-tank than QuadLas Predators... With additionnal buffs (Shaman AND Prescience, Exalted / Daemon Prince aura, VotLW, Death to the false emperor), they're utterly disgusting. The amount of buffs these units can receive is outrageous. They're pretty much mandatory for any competitive list. Don't forget about the flickering flames and re-roll 1s to wound from daemon spark warlord trait. :D They can have +2 to hit, re-rolling 1s, +2 to wound re-rolling 1s. lol Although i think that min squads might be better, as there is no way to deep strike them, so MSU might be less of a target than a blob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I did some math on the Bowgoats / Boats / Zangboatswhatever and with a Shaman OR Prescience, they're better anti-tank than QuadLas Predators... With additionnal buffs (Shaman AND Prescience, Exalted / Daemon Prince aura, VotLW, Death to the false emperor), they're utterly disgusting. The amount of buffs these units can receive is outrageous. They're pretty much mandatory for any competitive list. Care to share that math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Given that the to-hit can be buffed to +4 (I think) for auto wounding, I absolutely believe that to be possible. When the codex drops, I’ll be sure to give a detailed mathhammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Depends on whether you need to roll a natural 6 or get 6+ after mods though, right? I haven’t seen the codex so don’t know what is true. If those numbers are true, it smacks of what I feared about beast men being more or less mandatory in a “competitive” list. Still being neither excited, angry, or panicked yet. :) Edit: ninja’ed on the 6 thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 I did some math on the Bowgoats / Boats / Zangboatswhatever and with a Shaman OR Prescience, they're better anti-tank than QuadLas Predators... With additionnal buffs (Shaman AND Prescience, Exalted / Daemon Prince aura, VotLW, Death to the false emperor), they're utterly disgusting. The amount of buffs these units can receive is outrageous. They're pretty much mandatory for any competitive list. I think they'll be good but that seems to good to be true but than again I think your spending more points on getting that efficient than you would for a regular quadlas pred, so that combo should be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammel Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Bow, bow, bow yer goats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 We don't know the weapon type / range yet. So if they are 'heavy' then that could reduce the amount of hits if they are 24" range. As I would assume they have a 12" being on discs you will be moving them around lot. But having a movement of 12" we will be able to scoot around and pick off lone units. If the weapon type is 'assault' or rapid fire then that's Great but i suspect them to be either assault or heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I thought they were confirmed at 1d3 shots making them assault or heavy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhdan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 We don't know the weapon type / range yet. So if they are 'heavy' then that could reduce the amount of hits if they are 24" range. As I would assume they have a 12" being on discs you will be moving them around lot. But having a movement of 12" we will be able to scoot around and pick off lone units. If the weapon type is 'assault' or rapid fire then that's Great but i suspect them to be either assault or heavy. Pretty sure that Hikaru on Dakka confirmed them to be assault 2 S5 AP-1 D1 autowound on 6+ to hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Yes he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Yeah I'd definitely assume them being assault weaposn. Heavy weapons as only weapon option on a disc unit doesn't make much sense and it doesn't seem like a rapid fire weapon either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhdan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Yeah I'd definitely assume them being assault weaposn. Heavy weapons as only weapon option on a disc unit doesn't make much sense and it doesn't seem like a rapid fire weapon either. well, it's not the only option. they have pistol/chainsword and the spears too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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