Lord_Ikka Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Fast, fun small Knights. Not a bad deal if the Forgebane set is priced for $180-ish. I can grab two of these now, then another couple when they come out with some new variants. I feel like two of these along with a full sized Knight will be a nice little addition to my AdMech forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5030509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'm really tempted to convert the heat spear into a heat spear! A decent shield in the other hand and we have a mini lancer Then run my lancer and 2-4 'lancets' and cavalry charge ahoy! Since I may run these painted gold with my Custodes, I would consider such a conversion myself. Can I ask how you would do this modeling wise? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5030533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'm really tempted to convert the heat spear into a heat spear! A decent shield in the other hand and we have a mini lancer Then run my lancer and 2-4 'lancets' and cavalry charge ahoy! Since I may run these painted gold with my Custodes, I would consider such a conversion myself. Can I ask how you would do this modeling wise? Just using the chainblade arm, remove the chainblade section itself and then plasticard scratch build for the lance. Basically copy the design of the Lancer really. And then work out how to do the shield. Provisionally it works in my head, when I've got it in hand it'll be easier to plan out Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5030550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Hmm... I wonder how I'll show that one of my Armigers is half-commoner... My Dragoon squad leader I converted some extra decoration to represent they are a noble who suffered psychosis-neuracanium so their younger sibling who would otherwise have been destined to be a Sacristan got the full knight while they were turned into Skitarii. Now with an Armiger I can add a half-sibling. brother_b 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5030654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Anyone know the points cost for these bad boys yet? librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Lot of guessing (mainly in the N&R thread) but nothing definitive. Guessing slightly more than a Redemptor Dread but less than a knight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'm guesstimating 200-250pts. Hoping for less, but them being Knights and Lords of War, I'm expecting them to be more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Cool cheers folks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) So i have seen forgebane ;-)the knight is 223 base , So 227points , with the stubber (4 points), or you can pay for the melta pintle, sadly didn't manage to see the cost of that , but probably quite a bit more Im guessing 17 , in line with the other knights.So fully loaded at 240 , Special rules wise they have vehicle squadron too, so 3 can be one drop and then operate individually providing they deploy 6 away from each other. No other special rules other than ion shields, it has assault weapons anyway so its moving and firing , and we dont really care too much for stubbers. Edited March 17, 2018 by synthaside Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Watching an unboxing video I see there's four different faces, two on the torso sprue and two on the Mechanicus armour and weapons sprue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriade Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The key thing to note is that the weapon sprue is completely separate so there will probably be more variation of this model in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Well I think this might be too expensive for my Custodes army but I might be able to fit three in my AdMech. Honestly hoped they’d come in a little cheaper so I think I’ll be using the stubbed to save 51 points on the formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 From Winters Seo review video librisrouge, Redtoof and Vel'Cona 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Oh wow that’s quite high points wise. I hope that won’t affect sales. Be a shame if people don’t buy these as they are pointed too highly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Oh wow that’s quite high points wise. I hope that won’t affect sales. Be a shame if people don’t buy these as they are pointed too highly. I doubt it will since the box is such a good deal, but GW really shot themselves in the foot coming out the gate here with the new knights in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) This box plus skitarii box plus enginseer = ready to rock +/- a unit or 2 So with the contents of these boxes I've got a list of 1,326 with the purchase of an additional armiger to fill the LOW and enginseer to replace the 2nd Dominus 1 x 6 rangers with 2 arquebus 2 x 7 vanguard And a neutron laser onager Under stygies forgeworld for infiltrate/cover shenanigans Edited March 17, 2018 by helterskelter Battybattybats 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Before anyone reads too much into what they think of the points cost, don't forget this is in an initial release box. GW is much more receptive to feedback and it could easily be adjusted in the future. PiñaColada 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This box plus skitarii box plus enginseer = ready to rock +/- a unit or 2 So with the contents of these boxes I've got a list of 1,326 with the purchase of an additional armiger to fill the LOW and enginseer to replace the 2nd Dominus 1 x 6 rangers with 2 arquebus 2 x 7 vanguard And a neutron laser onager Under stygies forgeworld for infiltrate/cover shenanigans This box will push my Admech to over 3000 points, very cheap additions :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Before anyone reads too much into what they think of the points cost, don't forget this is in an initial release box. GW is much more receptive to feedback and it could easily be adjusted in the future. Oh absolutely, I'm actually hopeful that because they overpriced it by a rather large margin it's more likely to be fixed in the imperial knights codex (if it was 215 with the melta I could see them just leaving it at that cost) It's a really cool model and I'll field them but they're not actually worth it at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I suppose, points values come and go...but cool looking plastic is forever? These could indeed be baller by the time 9th rolls round! I will probably buy a couple when they are released out of the box. Mainly cause they look fun. Just might be too much of a squeeze to slot them into my army. Battybattybats 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Not that much overpriced. in fact should be super fun to play in detachments... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Not that much overpriced. in fact should be super fun to play in detachments... Well, it does roughly what one onager and two dragoons do. Which cost almost the same. And got twice the wounds, better stratagems, better repair, better AT range, and forgeworld dogma. I'll build and paint the two of them, but I'm in no hurry to get more, or field them outside of really big games, where they decorate the Atropos with a matching look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5033994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 These could indeed be baller by the time 9th rolls round! You don't have to wait til 9th, annual update from chapter approved and we could be good to go. It has killed my enthusiasm for have 6 though, down to 2 maybe 4 now tops Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5034164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 so yea, robot replacements down to point cost. Still a bit disappointing, but considering they can free up a slot, can do both range and melee, and can move a lot faster than the robots and still shoot, I think it's a trade off worthy of at least some consideration. They have Forgeworld dogmas though? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5034171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 so yea, robot replacements down to point cost. Still a bit disappointing, but considering they can free up a slot, can do both range and melee, and can move a lot faster than the robots and still shoot, I think it's a trade off worthy of at least some consideration. They have Forgeworld dogmas though? Nope, no Forgeworld dogmas. They either get Questor Mechanicus or Questor Imperialis keyword, so, besides stratagems and very limited repair, that's it. And I'm playing Lucius. My robots might still be slow, but at least they teleport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/page/10/#findComment-5034179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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