hermanista Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 As of by magic, warhammer community article And the Armigers are Lords of war after all! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/05/forgebane-coming-soongw-homepage-post-1/ 3x3 Super heavy detachment agogo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Really intrigued to see the points and stats of them. I imagine they're a LoW for detatchment purposes (gotta fit Knights) rather than what they might suit in terms of rules. What do we think in terms of wound number, attacks, weapon strength? The guns have cool names! Shinespider 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I know nothing about rules, but I'd guess somewhere near Dreadknight 3+ ws/b.s. str/T 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I'd guess M12" BS3+ WS3+ S7 T7 W14 A4 LD8 Sv3+ and a 5+ invulvn against shooting (well maybe not but I hope) The thermal spear , which is a badass name has the stats of the old thermal cannon and shorter range I'd guess. So Range 24" Heavy D3 S9 AP-4 Dmg D6 (12" melta range) The reaper chain cleaver is a weaker chainsword so maybe S+3 AP-3 Dmg 3 Pure speculation but something like this would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The real question is how many points do these bad boys cost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The real question is how many points do these bad boys cost... I'd say low 200's, considering they're packing a modest amount of guns. Maybe 230ish for the stats I wrote above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 A knight crusader flanked by 2 of these and a load of dragoons could be fun. Maybe squeeze in Cawl and 4 kastelan robots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just a thought, could maybe have the below if the points are low enough for the armigers (220 ish) Super heavy detachment 1x knight crusader 1x armiger 1x armiger Outrider detachment - stygies 1x TPD (warlord with monitor malevolous) 1x dragoon 1x dragoon 1x dragoon Patrol detachment - mars 1x Cawl 5x Rangers 4x dakastelan robots 7 Command points Whilst that wouldn’t probably be competitive it would be a fun looking army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Why even bother with the patrol and that Heretek Cawl .... Super heavy detachment 3CP ( TBC) probably around 7-800 at a guess1x knight crusader ( all the Dakka) 1x armiger1x armigerBattalion detachment - stygies 889 points1 X TPD stock, the warlord with monitor malevolous 1 X TPE Relic ( The Omniscient Mask ) [ Re-roll failed to hit rolls for Skitari units, dragoons have the keyword] 3 X 5 Man Barebones Rangers [ Objective campers]1 X 3 man dragoon squad [ CHARGGGGGEEEEE ]1 X 3 man dragoon squad1 x 3 man dragoon squad Based on what you have left you can sprinkle good units as you playstyle warrants , For my money that's some -1 to hit robots,a 20 man blob of your favourite deep striking Electro priests, or Dunecrawlers to sit at the back with the TPD. 9 command points Edited March 5, 2018 by synthaside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Super heavy detachment 3CP ( TBC) probably around 7-800 at a guess A decked out crusader is 598 points, so that's highly doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Ok, well maybe not allllll the toys ;-) I was too lazy to fire up the scribe on my phone for the detachment I looked at the base cost of 320 before weapons and Extrapolated as we have no idea on the Armiger's eventual math still works even if you do though your just spending some of the wiggle room before you hit 2K. Edited March 5, 2018 by synthaside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I’m sure there are better builds out there than mine. I just quite fancy playing that if it’s possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Dont worry about me im just salty because I got beat by a split cawl / Stygies detachment at the weekend 5 game event , ;-) , I dont beleive in mixing an matching unless im painted that way ... and my OCD refuses to let me field Rainbow rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Dont worry about me im just salty because I got beat by a split cawl / Stygies detachment at the weekend 5 game event , ;-) , I dont beleive in mixing an matching unless im painted that way ... and my OCD refuses to let me field Rainbow rangers. I actually agree with you on the BS of mixing factions. I regularly see Cadian or whatever IG detachments with a Supreme Command that is Tallarn to let a Shadowsword outflank. It gets a pass because its easy to remember one model but its painted the exact same way as the rest of the army. That is wrong, in my opinion. It's also why I only play mono-regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnofiend Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The real question is how many points do these bad boys cost... I'd say low 200's, considering they're packing a modest amount of guns. Maybe 230ish for the stats I wrote above? They'd need to be around 150 to be an even match for the Necron army in terms of points values. The rest of the AdMech stuff totals to just under 200, and the Necron point values are around 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 That make my idea, sense be about 400-500 point for a Superheavy detachment which wouldn't be half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Dont worry about me im just salty because I got beat by a split cawl / Stygies detachment at the weekend 5 game event , ;-) , I dont beleive in mixing an matching unless im painted that way ... and my OCD refuses to let me field Rainbow rangers. I actually agree with you on the BS of mixing factions. I regularly see Cadian or whatever IG detachments with a Supreme Command that is Tallarn to let a Shadowsword outflank. It gets a pass because its easy to remember one model but its painted the exact same way as the rest of the army. That is wrong, in my opinion. It's also why I only play mono-regiment.Is it a really old shadowsword with no sponsons? No way it would fit in the 7” deployment otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriade Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 silly question to ask but has anyone done a rough points breakdown on the things in the box i know it will not be perfect but we should have a rough idea of the points break down and these things tend to be fairly even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 silly question to ask but has anyone done a rough points breakdown on the things in the box i know it will not be perfect but we should have a rough idea of the points break down and these things tend to be fairly even? Roughly 500 for the Necrons, about 200 for Mechanicum. So that would make armigers about 150 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 silly question to ask but has anyone done a rough points breakdown on the things in the box i know it will not be perfect but we should have a rough idea of the points break down and these things tend to be fairly even? Roughly 500 for the Necrons, about 200 for Mechanicum. So that would make armigers about 150 points. That might very well be true, don't know necrons so can't really comment on them. Admech is 195 minimum though (125 for a base TPD and 70 for 10 rangers, stock) but considering they're showing them with an transuranic arquebus, an arc rifle and a guy with a phosphor blast pistol they're actually 227 points. (+25,+4,+3 respectively) So unless the necrons are actually a bit higher in points than you said it doesn't seem likely that they'll match in points (I highly doubt that an armiger is less than 150) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Well this box already got GW some money, I'm visiting a capital city at the moment and bought, amongst other things: a plastic Necron Overlord, a plastic Enginseer (I have a metal one but I've been wanting a plastic one too) and a box of Kataphrons. And I bought my 4th Dragoon a couple weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Anyone got a guess as to what “soon” means March release or April release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Tau go on pre-order this week, so they come out next. My bet would be Necron codex after them, probably within a two week time-frame, followed by the box set. So I'd guess end of March / start of April? Just my thoughts. I'm probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 And maybe fires shorty after.... Time for a lotto win! Battybattybats 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 silly question to ask but has anyone done a rough points breakdown on the things in the box i know it will not be perfect but we should have a rough idea of the points break down and these things tend to be fairly even? Roughly 500 for the Necrons, about 200 for Mechanicum. So that would make armigers about 150 points. That might very well be true, don't know necrons so can't really comment on them. Admech is 195 minimum though (125 for a base TPD and 70 for 10 rangers, stock) but considering they're showing them with an transuranic arquebus, an arc rifle and a guy with a phosphor blast pistol they're actually 227 points. (+25,+4,+3 respectively) So unless the necrons are actually a bit higher in points than you said it doesn't seem likely that they'll match in points (I highly doubt that an armiger is less than 150) The necron estimate was bare-bones as well, and that seems to be a new special character who may have a higher cost. Personally I expect the Armigers to be in that 150-200 point range depending on equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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