Gederas' Forge - Resurrection! 40k World Eaters & 30k Ultramarines (Pg 35)

[OttoVonAwesome]

3 hours ago, Gederas said:

Someone in the 30k Discord split the parts up from a free file from Cults3D of a fully-assembled Fulmentarus Terminators STL file.

I hope they upload it. I know that file. Super wierd poses it would be great to have just the torso.

[Gederas]

Speaking of 3D Prints.... I got a VERY big red angry ragemonster today:

 

And to give an idea of the wingspan, Kratos for scale:

Need to finish the cleanup work on him and fix the failure (right wing failed at hour 13 of 14 due to a power outage at my print guy's house) but.... Oh yes. Now this definitely looks the part for Skarbrand.

 

For context, we scaled this 130% from the base file (which fit on a 100mm round, just like base Skarbrand). THIS monster? He takes up a 130mm, just like the Forge World Exalted Bloodthirster.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Gederas

[Shovellovin]

Holy smokes! That beast is H-U-G-E!!! That's going to look really cool on the tabletop.

[Pearson73]

What a monster!

[Gederas]

23 hours ago, Shovellovin said:

Holy smokes! That beast is H-U-G-E!!! That's going to look really cool on the tabletop.

11 hours ago, Pearson73 said:

What a monster!

Thanks!

Here's a better size shot, and a comparison:

Honestly, I'm just glad he fits in my airbrush booth

[YoungWolf7]

Quite the monster! I don't recognize the 3D model though. i thought I had every Bloodthirster proxy out there. Which one is that?

[Gederas]

On 7/15/2022 at 12:48 PM, YoungWolf7 said:

Quite the monster! I don't recognize the 3D model though. i thought I had every Bloodthirster proxy out there. Which one is that?

It's EmanG's Skarbrand (it's called Skar Bran® The Flaked One if you want to go looking for it)

Edited July 17, 2022 by Gederas

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Oh man, prints long enough to make a beast of that size always make me nervous. I hope you pinned those shoulders on with something sturdy. Can't wait to see it painted!

[Gederas]

6 minutes ago, Brother Chaplain Kage said:

Oh man, prints long enough to make a beast of that size always make me nervous. I hope you pinned those shoulders on with something sturdy. Can't wait to see it painted!

He was a 26 hour print in total, 12 for the body, 14 for the wings, the power went out a my print guy's place on hour 13 of 14 for the wings, which only caused minor failures I can fix with sculpting (look at the left wing, second "finger", notice the missing claw). The wings are pinned with 2 brass rods each, and 3.5m plastic rod in the 4mm drain holes and glued with some heavy-duty thick CA. So they're fairly sturdily attached.

 

Currently though, I'm filling in the cracks from.... Something? One of the people in the 30k discord thinks it might have been lack of supports or bad exposure time, but he's got a loooooot of surface-level cracks on the resin. So I'm doing the Milliput with Isopropyl Alcohol to make a slurry/liquid gap-filler method.

[YoungWolf7]

On 7/15/2022 at 3:54 PM, Gederas said:

It's EmanG's Skarbrand (it's called Skar Bran® The Flaked One if you want to go looking for it)

I should have realized. I have all of EmanG's stuff. Thanks for pointing it out. :)

[Gederas]

Welp, That Skarbrand is donezo.

My FLGS' owner printed it with an infill and never cleaned out the liquid resin, so when I did that the day I picked it up, liquid resin inside it had been ACTIVELY DE-CURING THE WALLS OF THE HOLLOW BODY FOR THREE DAYS. This was the source of the cracks, and those were because gasses were being produced by that reaction and causing the walls to shift. It basically meant what happened here was going to happen no matter what, Worst part? He's not taking any responsibility or accountability for it and blew me off/not responded to me about replacing it because "I printed bigger stuff than that and didn't drain the resin and it's fine"

[OttoVonAwesome]

Wow... Dude owes you a new print that's savagely stupid rookie mistake type stuff. Exploding models are not cool. You can't be printing hollow without a relief hole to drain the resin.

[Gederas]

2 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

Wow... Dude owes you a new print that's savagely stupid rookie mistake type stuff. Exploding models are not cool. You can't be printing hollow without a relief hole to drain the resin.

He did have the relief holes, but they got plugged up and he never bothered to clean it out (he rage-quit the print after a power outage at hour 13 of 14 for the wings) so I did that when I picked it up.... Which was the Wednesday after the print was finished, which was a Sunday.

 

And I know, but he printed a Warlord Titan and did the same thing (hollowed, infill and never drained the resin) and it's been fine for six months according to him.

[Pearson73]

Oh man, that's so frustrating.

[Majkhel]

Oooh, what guy...  Classic denial "It was always good/never had any complaints/etc. so it's not my fault" thing.
So sorry to see that awesome "mini" destroyed like that

[jaxom]

Doom-style necro-cyborg demon? Use bits to create a “collar” connecting the two halves and have the surface tears be zombie-style wounds? Not what you wanted, but it could salvage something.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

That's :cuss:ed up. What did it cost you to have it printed?

 

*edit* Took me a sec to realize the body was one solid piece and I know from experience printing something that big should have been broken into at least upper and lower body for the very reason this failed. Unless you have a UV light on a flexible mount to shove up into the body through the drain holes, there's no way you're ever going to get it completely cured on the inside and this would have happened eventually even if the drain holes hadn't been clogged.

 

This is completely his fault. If the print fails like that, how would it be anyone else's fault?

Edited July 25, 2022 by Brother Chaplain Kage

[YoungWolf7]

Lame! Very lame.

I quit using infill for that particular reason. When using drain holes you always want at least 2. If you have only 1 the vacuum effect won't let the resin drain correctly. Couple that with the additional surface areas that infill creates and you have Admiral Ackbar just waiting to shout "It's a Trap!"...

I've done large pieces like dragons w/o infill and not had any issues as long as there are 2 holes (at least!) I use a large 2 oz dropper bottle full of IPA and spray it in one hole to flush it out of the other. I repeat several times in each hole until the IPA runs clear. Going this route I haven't had to rig up a UV light to go up inside.

[Gederas]

Yeah, it's aggravating to say the least. The main thing was he asked me about doing it hollow and I said sure, so it's partially on me.

 

8 hours ago, Brother Chaplain Kage said:

That's :cuss:ed up. What did it cost you to have it printed?

*edit* Took me a sec to realize the body was one solid piece and I know from experience printing something that big should have been broken into at least upper and lower body for the very reason this failed. Unless you have a UV light on a flexible mount to shove up into the body through the drain holes, there's no way you're ever going to get it completely cured on the inside and this would have happened eventually even if the drain holes hadn't been clogged.

This is completely his fault. If the print fails like that, how would it be anyone else's fault?

Around a bottle of Phrozen Aqua-Grey, so about $40 USD.

He doesn't do edits to files, so since the Skarbrand body and legs were all one piece, that's how he printed it.

1 hour ago, YoungWolf7 said:

Lame! Very lame.

I quit using infill for that particular reason. When using drain holes you always want at least 2. If you have only 1 the vacuum effect won't let the resin drain correctly. Couple that with the additional surface areas that infill creates and you have Admiral Ackbar just waiting to shout "It's a Trap!"...

I've done large pieces like dragons w/o infill and not had any issues as long as there are 2 holes (at least!) I use a large 2 oz dropper bottle full of IPA and spray it in one hole to flush it out of the other. I repeat several times in each hole until the IPA runs clear. Going this route I haven't had to rig up a UV light to go up inside.

Yeah, apparently the 4mm drain holes weren't enough (and also only at the wings' connection point to the body....). I did that IPA thing and got it all clear, but you know.

Three days of liquid resin inside model means....

10 hours ago, jaxom said:

Doom-style necro-cyborg demon? Use bits to create a “collar” connecting the two halves and have the surface tears be zombie-style wounds? Not what you wanted, but it could salvage something.

if I didn't have a moment of pure anger and rage where I threw the upper half of Skarbrand on the ground, I probably could have recovered it by re-sculpting the busted areas. But well... I threw it on the floor and then threw it out

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

There goes my suggestions for salvaging it. Sorry, man. :(

[Gederas]

2 minutes ago, Brother Chaplain Kage said:

There goes my suggestions for salvaging it. Sorry, man. :(

Yeah, it is what it is. Probably shouldn't have smashed it but I just gave up and took my anger out on the model. I'll focus and work on other things while I think on how to go about getting it replaced

[YoungWolf7]

I'd offer to reprint it for you, but my printer has been idle for too long and needs some maintenance. Plus family vacation coming up. Hit me up mid-August or so when I'm back from my travels to Yellowstone and we can work something out. :)

[Gederas]

33 minutes ago, YoungWolf7 said:

I'd offer to reprint it for you, but my printer has been idle for too long and needs some maintenance. Plus family vacation coming up. Hit me up mid-August or so when I'm back from my travels to Yellowstone and we can work something out. :)

That's really kind of you mate, thank you . If I don't have this issue resolved before then, I'll definitely take you up on that offer

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

I could possibly do the printing but the resin I use might be a tad too brittle for something that big.

[OttoVonAwesome]

20 hours ago, Brother Chaplain Kage said:

I could possibly do the printing but the resin I use might be a tad too brittle for something that big.

There's an additive you can get to make the resin tougher by making it more flexible... Kind of like finecast if finecast wasn't crap. I'd reccomend it for anything large.