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That CP ruling is utterly ridiculous...

 

I have no idea who thought that was sensible. 

 

So, recently they increase many detachments level of CP granted (but not super heavy), hand out gain/regain CP abilities like they're on a 2 for 1 deal, but DECREASE the ability of a Knight list to gain them pretty much full stop? O.o

 

You were never getting more than 9 anyway! You'll be lucky to have more than 3 now. Just enough to use 'Rotate Ion shield' on the Dominus once.

 

It's insanity.

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Listening to these guys talk about CP, it's like they don't know Imperial guard CP batteries exist...

The problem here is that some people want to run IK as a solo faction. So it is starting to seem like this codex is not designed to have them be run that way and that you have to have the cp batteries to even make the army work correctly. Also, CP batteries prevent you from taking IK warlord traits and relics.

I wasn't refering to people on this forum. I was referring to the game designers on Warhammer TV sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

They are like... Knights are gonna struggle with CP... But why punish pure knights and reward people who take a CP battery of guard? That seems backwards it encourages more soup.

 

I was saying it's like the game designers don't know that souping guard batteries is a problem.

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Listening to these guys talk about CP, it's like they don't know Imperial guard CP batteries exist...

The problem here is that some people want to run IK as a solo faction. So it is starting to seem like this codex is not designed to have them be run that way and that you have to have the cp batteries to even make the army work correctly. Also, CP batteries prevent you from taking IK warlord traits and relics.

I wasn't refering to people on this forum. I was referring to the game designers on Warhammer TV sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

They are like... Knights are gonna struggle with CP... But why punish pure knights and reward people who take a CP battery of guard? That seems backwards it encourages more soup.

 

I was saying it's like the game designers don't know that souping guard batteries is a problem.

 

I agree.  It would make more sense if they had a rule in which a whole force consisting only of knights generated CP differently.  Makes no sense at the moment if they are encouraging Knight only lists.  

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I missed the stream. Is it that there is a special IK Lance detachment that works differently? Or does the SHD no longer give CP if you use Armigers instead of bigger knights?

Sounds like you only get the 3 CP from a SHD if all knights in it are the same class.  So 3 big knights or 3 small knights or 3 dominus knights....

 

 

So, to get 6 CP, you could do 1 SHD with big knights = ~ 1500 pts and then 1 SHD with Armigers = ~ 480 pts at cheapest.  But that would be for 2k games.

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I missed the stream. Is it that there is a special IK Lance detachment that works differently? Or does the SHD no longer give CP if you use Armigers instead of bigger knights?

They confirmed that you only get the 3 CP from a SHD if all knights in it are the same class.  So 3 big knights or 3 small knights or 3 dominus knights....

 

 

I am fairly certain only Armigers were excluded. As long as you have a mix of 3 Dominus/questoris, you gain CP and one Knight becomes a Character.

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Honestly if you can't keep a large enough area around the dominus cleared with armigers to prevent slamguinius from dropping on him you've probably already lost, especially since you have a whole turn with the flamer before he can drop on you. Just make sure he can't deploy within 12" and you're golden.

 

The problem here is that if you are a blood angels player 12" bubble is not going to protect you. If a Blood Angels player wants their capt smash in they will get in.

 

 

 

 

The 3d6 charge strat requires deepstrike but you can never charge further than 12". Keep them out of 12" and it's a lot harder for them to get that charge.

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That cant be true, the game started, duncan has 9 CP and brought three mixed big, a castellan, and two armigers.

 

Also, did anyone catch the points level of this game? It is around 2500 in current points.

 

Dunno, but it is definitely what they said on stream. Let's hope they were wrong, or there's a loophole. 'Tis hope I guess.

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But they specifically sold armigers as an easy way to get 3CP... In this article

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/12/unit-focus-armiger-warglaivesgw-homepage-post-4/

 

It doesn't make sense.

Went back and reread that and you are right!  Perhaps they misspoke.  Like I said - better to wait until that book is in my hands before I get too worried. :)

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