Gederas Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 So a primaris mephiston is rumored. Christ he's gonna be amazing. He's the most powerful started imho, him being primaris now should make him essentially a mini primarch And his scale should be more towards that size too, right? Alot marines are bigger then normal but minis never show this... I don't really remember him being particularly bigger than other big Marines. All the fluff has him being massive by marine standards. Additionally, all the fluff flat-out states his body is breaking down due to his psychic powers. So him undergoing the Rubcion would be a BAD IDEA per the fluff (as he'd very likely die, and VERY LIKELY explode into a warp rift because of it) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Now here's an interesting little short story today. Eldar Corsairs fighting Emperor's Children, and a bit of a mysterious twist to boot. Spoilers for the short story below. A clamour caught his attention, and he turned to see a gaggle of human cultists pushing their way through the debris towards the escape pods. He was about to order their execution when something about the heretics made him pause. They were human, and yet they weren’t quite human. They had all the appearance of the ape-like creatures, and yet… He started as he saw a strange figure join them. With skin so pale it was ghost-like, it floated out of the flames as if riding the rolling smoke. A Haemonculus of Commorragh. Tasar barely had time to question what a covenite was doing on a Heretic Astartes warship before he felt the ship buckle once more, entering its dying throes. He looked back down the corridor, but could see nothing now but smoke and ash. A trick of the mind, he concluded, and led his reavers back to their boarding craft. So yeah, that's an interesting little bit, specially if it actually leads somewhere instead of being just a bit of fluff. Edited October 21, 2019 by DeadFingers Celtic_cauldron, Panzer and betrayer41 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 So a primaris mephiston is rumored. Christ he's gonna be amazing. He's the most powerful started imho, him being primaris now should make him essentially a mini primarch And his scale should be more towards that size too, right? Alot marines are bigger then normal but minis never show this... I don't really remember him being particularly bigger than other big Marines. All the fluff has him being massive by marine standards. Additionally, all the fluff flat-out states his body is breaking down due to his psychic powers. So him undergoing the Rubcion would be a BAD IDEA per the fluff (as he'd very likely die, and VERY LIKELY explode into a warp rift because of it) Being massive or huge or whatever is said about many other Marines too though. Also the fluff doesn't state that his body is breaking down or that he'd create a warp rift if he dies. His condition is mostly a mystery he even hides from others in his chapter and what happens if he dies is completely unknown. Also the Rubicon Primaris includes the Marine to die for a while so it's not even a "he'd very likely die" thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Very interesting indeed. I wonder if that indicates a Fabius/Lucius/DE connection somewhere down the road. Celtic_cauldron and DeadFingers 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 All the fluff has him being massive by marine standards. Additionally, all the fluff flat-out states his body is breaking down due to his psychic powers. So him undergoing the Rubcion would be a BAD IDEA per the fluff (as he'd very likely die, and VERY LIKELY explode into a warp rift because of it) honestly, if they wanted it, the could have that doing the rubicon would regenerate him completely and make his body more stable. Not saying that'll happen, just saying I could easily see them going either way with it, if they really wanted. Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Very interesting indeed. I wonder if that indicates a Fabius/Lucius/DE connection somewhere down the road. I'm thinking either the Emperor's Children proper have made some sort of deal with Vect out of their mutual desire to get rid of the Ynnari, or this is Bile getting into the picture. That or they're somehow trying to tie Bile back to his former Legion. Which would be a bit weird as he's made the "former" part pretty clear, but these are strange times. Also, the cultists being "wrong" reminds me of the Fleshlings of Sensoria described in the CSM Codex. Maybe they'll eventually become the cheap infantry unit for the Emperor's Children, as their Tzaangor/Poxwalker equivalent. Edited October 21, 2019 by DeadFingers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix01 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 New update for PA2. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/21/psychic-awakening-a-new-revelationgw-homepage-post-4/ Chaos and Imperium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl of Wulfen Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The faction symbols are Sisters of Battle, Alpha legion, Astra Militarum, Emperors Children, Iron warriors, Night Lords, Salamanders, White scars, Word bearers, works eaters and black templars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5411782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 People are speculating that psykic awakening is gathering storm, ala ushering in a new edition. It, if it is a new edition, will be a minor updated edition, not a full blown edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5412851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 People are speculating that psykic awakening is gathering storm, ala ushering in a new edition. It, if it is a new edition, will be a minor updated edition, not a full blown edition. Its not though, well highly unlikley Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5412856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Edition changes come with core rule refinements and updates. We haven’t heard about anything like that so far. The 8th Edition rules are as tight as they are going to get. Instead what GW is likely to do is release expansions to the core rules they can update at will without having to go through the hassle of Edition changes. That way if they do something in an expansion, it only breaks the game in that expansion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5412864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 psychic awakening is supposedly gonna stretch beyond 4 volumes too, isn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5412865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yep. This is just to fill up the time space between Great rift and vigilus. Like HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5412886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Now here's an interesting little short story today. Eldar Corsairs fighting Emperor's Children, and a bit of a mysterious twist to boot. Spoilers for the short story below. A clamour caught his attention, and he turned to see a gaggle of human cultists pushing their way through the debris towards the escape pods. He was about to order their execution when something about the heretics made him pause. They were human, and yet they weren’t quite human. They had all the appearance of the ape-like creatures, and yet… He started as he saw a strange figure join them. With skin so pale it was ghost-like, it floated out of the flames as if riding the rolling smoke. A Haemonculus of Commorragh. Tasar barely had time to question what a covenite was doing on a Heretic Astartes warship before he felt the ship buckle once more, entering its dying throes. He looked back down the corridor, but could see nothing now but smoke and ash. A trick of the mind, he concluded, and led his reavers back to their boarding craft. So yeah, that's an interesting little bit, specially if it actually leads somewhere instead of being just a bit of fluff. I interpret this as being a continuation of Vects "false humans" that were mentioned in Phoenix Rises. He's seeding them into Chaos forces as well as just human worlds now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I interpret this as being a continuation of Vects "false humans" that were mentioned in Phoenix Rises. He's seeding them into Chaos forces as well as just human worlds now. If you could, please elaborate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I interpret this as being a continuation of Vects "false humans" that were mentioned in Phoenix Rises. He's seeding them into Chaos forces as well as just human worlds now. If you could, please elaborate. Basically, Urien developed a punishment where he would "take a transgressor and reshape them, melding their mortal clay until they looked, walked, and even smelled like a human being". Vect found out about this, and being the troll-tastic genius that he is, started seeding them into at least one world so that he could have "human" agents in their government and military, which let him coordinate a strike against the Ynnari with the Imperial Guard, and the DE cutting off their retreat. This indicates it's not just one world he's had them infiltrate, but is having them infest many human-based opponents that he wishes taken down. Panzer and DeadFingers 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Basically, Urien developed a punishment where he would "take a transgressor and reshape them, melding their mortal clay until they looked, walked, and even smelled like a human being". Vect found out about this, and being the troll-tastic genius that he is, started seeding them into at least one world so that he could have "human" agents in their government and military, which let him coordinate a strike against the Ynnari with the Imperial Guard, and the DE cutting off their retreat. This indicates it's not just one world he's had them infiltrate, but is having them infest many human-based opponents that he wishes taken down. Hmmm, that's certainly interesting and does seem to match the way the cultists are perceived by the Eldar spotting them. However, I'd find it weird for a Haemonculus to be freely prancing around an Emperor's Children ship making fake humans without being noticed. So while I believe you might be right on the money about what those cultists are, I also think there might be more to the Haemonculus' presence than just infiltrating the Emperor's Children for Vect. Like I commented on another thread, I wouldn't put it past Vect to make a pact of sorts with Slaanesh's chosen Legion against their common enemy, the Ynnari. He strikes me as the kind of guy that would make a deal with the devil if he felt his power being threatened. In fact, if this is correct and he's working with the Emperor's Children, it wouldn't surprise me if he also had plans in motion to double-cross them eventually. Two birds and all that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Unless it's a rescue mission. Valuable false-humans with intel and training, gets attacked ahead of schedule by an Eldar Corsair fleet, so the Haemonculus goes in to save his creations from dying pointlessly. They're not being made there, they're being extracted so they can at least die usefully. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Unless it's a rescue mission. Valuable false-humans with intel and training, gets attacked ahead of schedule by an Eldar Corsair fleet, so the Haemonculus goes in to save his creations from dying pointlessly. They're not being made there, they're being extracted so they can at least die usefully. He could also be a buddy of Fabious, whats that gene cartel thing Fabius has going with xenos, humans and Astartes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Unless it's a rescue mission. Valuable false-humans with intel and training, gets attacked ahead of schedule by an Eldar Corsair fleet, so the Haemonculus goes in to save his creations from dying pointlessly. They're not being made there, they're being extracted so they can at least die usefully. He could also be a buddy of Fabious, whats that gene cartel thing Fabius has going with xenos, humans and Astartes? The Consortium I think it's called Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Could be vect, bile, ec teaming up to see what makes primaris tick, sharing notes. Bigger monsters for dark eldar, ascendant Marines for bile Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I have a faint hope that Zhao-Arkhad may show up in relation to AdMech psykery stuff in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Commoragh (sp?) is Fabius' next trip according to his most recent lore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeinox Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Commoragh (sp?) is Fabius' next trip according to his most recent lore. Ahriman's as well, according to the final timeline blurb in Codex: Thousand Sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 So is the only source of this cqc primaris unit in early 2020 from some "store manager". If these books are 1 book a month, that would put wolves Orks in Jan. I suspect these 4 books are the base to build. Then we'll get book 1 part 2, and so on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/30/#findComment-5413634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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