Marshal Laeroth Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Did Halbrechts str +1 aura change? From: “models within 6”” to “Models whose unit is within 6”? Yes, its changed. He was also given another base attack. So he has sorta been given primaris treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Does he have an extra wound aswell? +1 wound and +1 attack? If he has primaris stats, later he just needs a keyword added to his profile really, if it ever happens... Or Primaris lose the keyword and are just Space Marines... Edit: saw your answer on the previous thread Laeroth. Yeah 6 wounds is the same as a Primaris Captain. Like I said previously, I have a gut feeling that something will come our way next year. Could be later on with the new edition. Stormcast did have vanguard and then dudes with tabards... fingers crossed. Edited November 10, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Does he have an extra wound aswell? +1 wound and +1 attack? If he has primaris stats, later he just needs a keyword added to his profile really, if it ever happens... Or Primaris lose the keyword and are just Space Marines... Unfortunately, just the additional base attack. His wound starline is already pretty high for a CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Does he have an extra wound aswell? +1 wound and +1 attack? If he has primaris stats, later he just needs a keyword added to his profile really, if it ever happens... Or Primaris lose the keyword and are just Space Marines... Edit: saw your answer on the previous thread Laeroth. Yeah 6 wounds is the same as a Primaris Captain. Like I said previously, I have a gut feeling that something will come our way next year. No extra wound, but definitely 5 attacks base. This is great news brothers, GW has adjusted the things we wanted them to for Helbrecht and even given an extra attack. Hopefully he drops a bit in points too! So now on the charge he has a bare minimum of 7 attacks, going up to as many as 9. That's pretty brutal when you are hitting on 2+ with rerolls and have a S6 AP-3 D3 weapon to hit with! BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Does his sword attacks proc with Angel's of Death rule? A CC beast as he should be. Still no Orbital bombardment tho ;) (it's a joke) Edited November 10, 2019 by Sete JAG Templar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Does his sword attacks proc with Angel's of Death rule? The sword is specifically when charging Edit: or when making a Herioc Intervention Edited November 10, 2019 by Acebaur Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Not as strong as Blender Marshall, IMO, but still nice update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Helbrecht + Veteran Intercessors + Grimaldus + Assault Doctrine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Pedro Kantor was given the same treatment in the IF Supplement. I guess they gave them these boosts since they're chapter masters and not mere captains? Edited November 10, 2019 by Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 weeks pre order. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/10/battle-sisters-yes-really-and-more/ As an added bonus, while stocks last, every pre-order of the hardback or Collector’s Edition of Psychic Awakening: Faith & Fury will come with a set of stylish datacards for High Marshal Helbrecht, Chaplain Grimaldus, Cenobyte Servitors, a Crusader Squad and a Chaos Sorcerer!" Stylish datacards... we are living the dream... There's something there that deserves attention : "hardback edition". Does that mean there may be a non-hardback print coming out later ? I'm pointing that out because one of the rationale for later content coming for templars was the fact that these PA books were a limited print only. If there's a softcover in the pipes that may... not be the case. On a related note, and if I may be forgiven for rehashing my earlier position, I still feel we're getting had with this whole process. In the upcoming WD, the inquisition is getting "a whopping 20 pages of background and rules content – it’s like a mini codex in its own right!". For 8€... Meanwhile we get to pay 32€ for possibly less content than that. I hope to be proved wrong, but this isn't encouraging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Is GW still releasing in soft back? I mostly buy digital, so I'm not sure about vigilus. I assume it was hardback and now it's out of print? Edited November 10, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Could just mean every physical copy of the book, while supply lasts? I'm pretty sure they don't do soft backs anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Thats very positive (at least because he is no Primaris)... But why there are specific Datacards for this characters but not a Emperors Champion. Edited November 10, 2019 by Medjugorje Marshal Valkenhayn and Schlitzaf 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 It all seems very positive. Great to see Templars feature so heavily in the teaser and the (very few) rules we have seen are an improvement. As always, points cost and overall army synergy will be the critical factors but a nice start. Brother Talarian and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 weeks pre order. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/10/battle-sisters-yes-really-and-more/ As an added bonus, while stocks last, every pre-order of the hardback or Collector’s Edition of Psychic Awakening: Faith & Fury will come with a set of stylish datacards for High Marshal Helbrecht, Chaplain Grimaldus, Cenobyte Servitors, a Crusader Squad and a Chaos Sorcerer!" Stylish datacards... we are living the dream... There's something there that deserves attention : "hardback edition". Does that mean there may be a non-hardback print coming out later ? I'm pointing that out because one of the rationale for later content coming for templars was the fact that these PA books were a limited print only. If there's a softcover in the pipes that may... not be the case. On a related note, and if I may be forgiven for rehashing my earlier position, I still feel we're getting had with this whole process. In the upcoming WD, the inquisition is getting "a whopping 20 pages of background and rules content – it’s like a mini codex in its own right!". For 8€... Meanwhile we get to pay 32€ for possibly less content than that. I hope to be proved wrong, but this isn't encouraging... The article specifically stated that there is three forms of the PA2 book: hardcover (basic), collectors edition, and ePub version. Presumably GW wants more people to buy the physical copies so are incentivizing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Anyone else found lack of EChampion disconcerting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Anyone else found lack of EChampion disconcerting? I didnt notice it at first but it does seem odd, now the fact that he may not get a card does not mean he wont be in the codex or turned into something else (a stratagem?) but simply that he just doesnt get a card. We are so close to this that I think Im just gonna sit tight and wait, looking too much into things is just going to drive me crazy with the possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchomatic Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Anyone else found lack of EChampion disconcerting? I, for one, am hopeful that the lack of data card for him means we will get some options for him. Maybe a primaris/first-born option or some other wargear options! Champion Rawne and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On one hand it would be highly irregular for GW to reveal a chaos sorcerer but not the champion this close to release. Especially without a convention or other event upcoming. It would appear to be a soft squat of sorts if even crusader squads are getting a data card, and they are a troops choice. It's not looking good bros, but heck, I'll still run him. Marshal van Trapp 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I will wait and see what drops yee of little faith. Crimson cowboy and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombatwombat Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 A lack of a datacard for the Champion could very well mean there’s a Primaris Champion model in the pipeline. Sticking with my earlier tinfoil hat theory, a new Champion that releases with a Supplement when Faith and Fury goes out of print. One can hope! I just dread that we’re going to lose the non-Primaris EC to the cold abyss of Legends. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think the possible lack of a limited supply datacard meaning anything model wise is reading a little too much into things. That said of our three special characters (as that's how they see the EC) he's the most likely to get an update, which means the old version would be treated as any other old special character that got updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The article specifically stated that there is three forms of the PA2 book: hardcover (basic), collectors edition, and ePub version. Presumably GW wants more people to buy the physical copies so are incentivizing it.Ah I see. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I imagine we'll see the templar/witch card on eBay, as players only interested in one side peddles any cards they don't want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Next years makes 15 years since the release of the 4th edition codex. Maybe some kind of release to mark that milestone with a new EC will happen. But for now, we wait to see what's going to happen. Edited November 11, 2019 by Sete balordazul 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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