Marshal Arthur Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Emperor’s Champion is on the table of contents for Faith and Fury so he’s still there. Looks like we’ve got fifteen pages of rules content and a name generator. SirJyo and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 So we have 15 pages in the new book that is not to bad. It does not look like new models but Litanies of the Devout sounds very thematic. Even down to us getting a name generator is fun. A good amount of work and support went into this from the Dev team. Note new models are likely approved from upper management and really GW has been fairly light on 40k model support as of late in general. They are spending a lot of time on AOS / Warcry and even necromonda plus Sisters just got translated into plastic. This holds to my theory that this is about getting people interested in BT again for a future focused release to reboot BT as a majorly supported chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Better than the 5-6 that each heretic Legion gets. But this was expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Are there leaked pages already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 no, an article showing the table of contents was just put up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/11/faith-fury-a-first-lookgw-homepage-post-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 15 pages and it seems they are using the same studio models from Gathering Storm. Gonna wait to see some Primaris painted, unless the studio does not actually have any. Edited November 11, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I compared our pages with the Iron Hands Supplement. The only differences are: - we have just one page of stratagems and no page with special issue wargear - maybe we still take that from the Imperial fists. (2 pages less but because of our Heroes 3 pages more) but the IH Supp has no extra page for point values... so I think this will be just a small part of the whole page - so the rest will be Stratagems (which are exactly one page before) 15 pages and it seems they are using the same studio models from Gathering Storm. Gonna wait to see some Primaris painted, unless the studio does not actually have any. https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/40kFaithFuryPreview-Nov11-Opener20hggc.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The IF supplement has a page for points values, its just not titled that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 And about 50 pages of fluff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DranuTemplar Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Is there going to be a cover of PA2 without a filthy sorcerer on the front? It feels wrong to but such a thing :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 storywise - the black Templars (warhammer community - psychic awakening) lead the Astartes force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Black Templar are the leaders of the Astartes force in PA2... Lippy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I could see them designating a chapter as a first born only chapter. I was thinking they might have us be that chapter but I’m encouraged by this that we won’t be! never. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader7 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I for one am excited. Looks like we are aiming to have the most support out out of all the non First Founding Chapters. 15 Pages is a good amount of rules. Additionally, I'm sure the general PA2 fluff will have a good amount of Templars involv d since we seem to be the main focus. Lippy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I honestly do wonder if they have a BT Primaris studio army sometimes! Definitely flying the flag for old marines there. I tell you what, if we come out of this, rules wise, with our own stuff, and the option of still taking some IF stuff. We are going to have a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I am very sure that these rules will make fun anyway. No matter if we are at bottom of the powerindex between Space Marines. The new codex is good and our supplement will make it even better. And maybe we get model support in the next year (who knows). Lippy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well I’m pretty pleased too. Ok I’m not as long in the tooth as some other brothers here and only started once templars were rolled into the codex, but I think this is a good result. We are pretty much front (ignore the witch on the ‘front’) and centre here. As said above, we’re leading the imperium in PA2! 15 pages is three times what the heretics get, but don’t forget we also get the 10 pages of rules that come before that! Two litanies on a chaplain is going to have excellent potential. Our units are all still there and maintain our character. I was hoping for a primaris upgrade sprue, but on reflection the current one is better and with more options. And I was also hoping for a primaris emperors champion, but I guess now I have to make my own Unique champion who’ll befit my personal crusade. Having just finished tweaking the primaris chaplain model I’m looking forward to that! Bring on the Zeal! (Where’s Honda!?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I am very sure one of those Relics will make it easier to speak any lithany - as Master of sanctinity we would get a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Talarian Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I am also excited. BT seem to take centre stage for PA2 which is great news! How many stratagems are found on a page, generally? I’m a little worried that we won’t have too many. I imagine we’ll find the 3 of Vigilus, which leaves... 5? Additional stratagems. How many were rumoured/leaked? Charge out of a LRC after movement -1 to hit in CC Anything else? I’m looking forward to this. The only bummer is that it’s 50$ for 15 pages... Lippy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Damn, that assault squad with BT upgrade looks great. Almost makes me think about buying assault marines. Aside from that, it's good to see BT as a core of loyalist forces, it's been a long time since we had something like that. UPD: MASTER OF SANCTITY IS BACK!!! Edited November 11, 2019 by Deadman Wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 ALSO NAME GENERATOR! A name generator finally! Also our own TACTICAL OBJECTIVES WOOT BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) A shame we have no cards for Litanies, Doctrines and Objectives. Weird decision. This further strengthens my belief that we will have something later on. Edited November 11, 2019 by Sete Schlitzaf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Seriously our own name generator makes me so excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well this thread finally turned around. That's refreshing! I'm really excited for this, as a BT and Word Bearers player. I just have one question though. I already have Codex Space Marines 1.0 from a year or two back when 8th ed. started. Can I just get PA:2 to be current? Do I need to buy c:sm 2 and codex:chaos space marines to play Black Templars and Word Bearers? Lippy 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 For Space marines you need the new codex. The original is entirely out of date now. For chaos, I think you need either the new codex or, the old first pattern AND Vigilus. But that may be just for Black Legion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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