Khornestar Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) The neophytes must all be equipped with the same gear; no mixing them up. Edited December 13, 2021 by Khornestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The neophytes must all be equipped with the same gear; no mixing them up. Thanks mate. I wonder why they decided to restrict them in that way. Yeah especially as the Initiates are not restricted like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Hey bruvhas I’ve been using two squads of Eliminators with lasfusils… cheap as chips and have a real kick. Thinking of getting a squad of Supressors as well… suppressing fire could be good to stop crazy overwatch plus the range is crazy good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) The neophytes must all be equipped with the same gear; no mixing them up. Thanks mate. I wonder why they decided to restrict them in that way. Yeah especially as the Initiates are not restricted like this. honestly? probably because they want to sell the upgrade kits shotguns. if you have a squad of 20 you need to buy two upgrade boxes after all! gonna probably pick one up for that reason... though I don't know if it's worth it just for the strat Edited December 13, 2021 by Tiger9gamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I prefer 1 carbine + 2 las in eliminator squad for move-shoot-move ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 It’s definitely a great tactic plus you can always split fire now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 honestly? probably because they want to sell the upgrade kits shotguns. if you have a squad of 20 you need to buy two upgrade boxes after all! gonna probably pick one up for that reason... though I don't know if it's worth it just for the strat Yeah... in retrospect it's one reason why I probably should've bought two Combat Patrols and a separate Redemptor instead of the Army set + CP (haven't bought a CP yet, mind you). While the army set was basically the cost of models with cards + codex on top, I didn't really need the cards and codex, and don't really like the EC model. CP on the other hand is actual good savings. But as is, gotta try to ask around if anyone locally has unused scout shotguns I could purloin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I just hope theres a primaris scout kit soon. Desperatly need pose varieté since im aiming for 3 full sader squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I can see it eventually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think GW may release that kit after sending old tactical squad and scouts to legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 The shotguns aren't -that- bad though, and if you are in a situation where they have full re-rolls and you're up against Blood Angels/Wolves/Scars... any 2 wound or even mutlwound assault unit this is the perfect time to pull the trigger on it. But it doesn't really hurt that much to simply use them without the strat. I look at it as a situational bonus. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think GW may release that kit after sending old tactical squad and scouts to legend. Still don’t know where the heck you are getting that idea from. GW’s stocks would plummet and the backlash would be immense! Keep the doom and gloom for the death guard maybe, even if I have the same fears as you have as for the shot guns, dunno if I will pull the trigger on them. I like having range with the Bolter carbines more than shotguns, so will have to think on it more. Truth be told, I don’t know if the upgrade sprue is enough for me to get it twice! BLACK BLŒ FLY and Metzombie 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think GW may release that kit after sending old tactical squad and scouts to legend. Still don’t know where the heck you are getting that idea from. GW’s stocks would plummet and the backlash would be immense! Keep the doom and gloom for the death guard maybe, even if I have the same fears as you have as for the shot guns, dunno if I will pull the trigger on them. I like having range with the Bolter carbines more than shotguns, so will have to think on it more. Truth be told, I don’t know if the upgrade sprue is enough for me to get it twice! I did one squad with Shotguns. Rule of cool. It just looks great, and I still think it's not a huge difference. I ended up needing 2 MM sprues anyway. :) BLACK BLŒ FLY and Tiger9gamer 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) I think GW may release that kit after sending old tactical squad and scouts to legend. Still don’t know where the heck you are getting that idea from. GW’s stocks would plummet and the backlash would be immense! Keep the doom and gloom for the death guard maybe, even if I have the same fears as you have as for the shot guns, dunno if I will pull the trigger on them. I like having range with the Bolter carbines more than shotguns, so will have to think on it more. Truth be told, I don’t know if the upgrade sprue is enough for me to get it twice! I did one squad with Shotguns. Rule of cool. It just looks great, and I still think it's not a huge difference. I ended up needing 2 MM sprues anyway. yea, I may pick it up because I am a whale for BT at the moment, and because I got some extra money for it. Just want to get two so I can either go for one squad of 20 or two squads of 10. Which one would be better anyways? Also, what is the thought of turning a marshal into a judicar? It seems simple with the upgrade sprue, and giving the marshal the skull in his right hand and a modified sword in his left seems super simple. (also, tried out army painter gunmetal when I ran out of leadbelcher... I hope I didn't ruin the stormshield I converted it was too thin, then suddenly became too thick.) Edited December 14, 2021 by Tiger9gamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 The Judicar has an analog timer not a lantern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Does anyone with privileged information know if the general BT release sold as well as GW hoped? It was amid fans being disgruntled and earnings being down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Hey bruvhas I’ve been using two squads of Eliminators with lasfusils… cheap as chips and have a real kick. Thinking of getting a squad of Supressors as well… suppressing fire could be good to stop crazy overwatch plus the range is crazy good. Whirlwind maybe more effective than Suppressors for that? Can fire without LOS, the Suppressors will have to be hitting on 4+ if the enemy uses terrain well and forces them to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Suppressors could potentially shut down three enemy units though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Will you need to make three simultaneous charges against three Overwatch capable units that often? Tiger9gamer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I’m thinking Tau since they’re on deck for a new codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 So if you think you're going to face Tau a lot and are going to need to pull off charges against 3 units in one turn, then probably worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Remember they have FTGG… so even if the unit you charge can’t fire overwatch others can. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Fair point! Horses for courses as with everything I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 It would be awesome to shut down three fish units then shred them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 whelp, gave in and bought another upgrade pack for the shotguns! hope they are worth it lol. and now I gotta decide if I want to run my guys as two squads of 10 or one squad of 20if nothing else I am happy I got more shoulder pads and helmets! Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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