Slave to Darkness Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I hope they dont have the average meatbags on bigger bases, I still need to put most of my marines on the bigger ones, I really dont want to do it to all my Guard as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 After spending a small fortune on nice 25mm resin bases of they go to 28s I won't be rebasing mine... I don't see how 1.5mm radius increase will impact the game. Besides if someone can actually eyeball that difference in a game I'll eat my cap Will be interesting to see whats announced this weekend. I've learnt to temper my expectations for anything IG related this edition Slave to Darkness and Emperor Ming 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, duz_ said: I've learnt to temper my expectations for anything IG related this edition I have given up, Im just on auto pilot, I have the minis so I may as well paint the damn things. If we get something good then thats a bonus, if we dont then at least I have a fully painted army. Im having fun building the army and vibing with you guys, so I win regardless of GW dropping the ball or not. Emperor Ming and Shamansky 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
domsto Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 After all and with 10.Ed right around the Corner i have to say, i wish for no 9.Ed Codex anymore. Best case would be that we get a Codex that is strong for maybe a few months before 10.Ed dropps and resets everything. Worse case: if 10.Ed doesn't reset everything. We get a 9.Ed Codex with "10.Ed in Mind" so we have to struggle throw 10.Ed as well with an outdated Codex. And won't get a propper 10.Ed Codex anytime soon. so or so i think Guard is in for a rought Time Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 This seems to be a valid concern. It wouldn't be the first time it happened to IG. Ref: Imperial Guard Codex "7th" edition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldWherewolf Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Well, GW announced "The Old World" (reboot of WHFB) back in 2019, and that hasn't been released yet. My Local GW store manager (take this with a LARGE grain of salt) expects the release to be in 2023. If that is true, then we can expect a full year before 40K gets rebooted. With the focus on at least somewhat balancing factions in 40k, GW can have a 4-year release cycle: 40K, 30K, AoS, and TOW. I like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Yeah, I would prefer not to have a 9th codex at this point I'd rather wait longer and not have an out-of-date codex...again The Pounder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been waiting for the new codex for so long I’d wait for perfect timing rather than have a book with a smaller lifespan. Guess we’ll find out more tomorrow. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Reminder this is a 40k forum, not an AOS or Fantasy forum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5872960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Looks like the live stream answered my question: regular troops will remains on 25mm bases and the Command Squad will be on 28.5mm bases. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Infantry squads also don't lose heavy weapons (which is nice), instead the one that can take 2 specials seems to be a different unit. I also got the impression that cadian units will be separate from regular ones (there was a lot of emphasis on cadian infantry and heavy weapons squads). Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Harrowmaster said: Infantry squads also don't lose heavy weapons (which is nice), instead the one that can take 2 specials seems to be a different unit. I also got the impression that cadian units will be separate from regular ones (there was a lot of emphasis on cadian infantry and heavy weapons squads). Yet they seem to come from the same box now lol. which I find interesting considering the other rumors about veterans/SWSes, which don’t have boxes of their own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Yet they seem to come from the same box now lol. which I find interesting considering the other rumors about veterans/SWSes, which don’t have boxes of their own. That's just my reading of it so I could be very far off, can only wait I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Now I’m hoping the FOBs can fit inside transports. Unlikely unless it’s a super heavy transport of some sort Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Now I’m hoping the FOBs can fit inside transports. Unlikely unless it’s a super heavy transport of some sort Maybe towed? Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Also just realized the FOBs are kind of a throw back to the old school HWTs 9 minutes ago, TCC said: Maybe towed? I just want to be able to do flying artillery lol TCC and Emperor Ming 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Also just realized the FOBs are kind of a throw back to the old school HWTs I just want to be able to do flying artillery lol Yes to flying artillery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, TCC said: Yes to flying artillery. About to finish book 2 in the artillerymen series and now I’m all starry eyed about flying artillery lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Theory. the rumor about infantry squads was wrong, so I have a theory. veteran squads will be to kasrkins as infantry squads are to shock troopers. so I’m thinking veterans will lose their BS3+, but will generally keep their current wargear options kasrkins will have more limited wargear options but have BS3+, and basic weapons will be better and obviously better Sv than the veterans. Maybe even better Ld. this way both have their strong suits and have reasons for you to take either of them, obviously the new kits will be slightly better though to encourage sales. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: the rumor about infantry squads was wrong, so I have a theory. I was always skeptical that they would be thrown out completely. The article seems very specific when it says "A squad of Cadian Shock Troops packs in more special weapons than a standard Infantry Squad, leaving the Heavy Weapons Team behind for greater mobility." So I wonder what that means for other regiments? Do Cadians get their own bespoke supplement (like Space Marines / CSM), or are they no longer a regiment of their own and are an elite choice? I didn't listen to the stream today so I don't know if any of that was addressed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, duz_ said: I was always skeptical that they would be thrown out completely. The article seems very specific when it says "A squad of Cadian Shock Troops packs in more special weapons than a standard Infantry Squad, leaving the Heavy Weapons Team behind for greater mobility." So I wonder what that means for other regiments? Do Cadians get their own bespoke supplement (like Space Marines / CSM), or are they no longer a regiment of their own and are an elite choice? I didn't listen to the stream today so I don't know if any of that was addressed. I mean the whole regiment thing seems like it’s going to become irrelevant now. I watched a watch along so missed at least half what the actual revealers said while the YTer talked over them and their subs gave them money lol I just think the shock troopers will be troops slot with standard guard statline (maybe another inch for movement?) but they get the 2 specials instead of 1 special and 1 heavy. Also new theory I posted in the news thread for the FOBs im hoping there’s a special interaction between master of ordnance and the FOBs. Edited October 8, 2022 by Inquisitor_Lensoven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 If regiments go away then I guess this gives another troop option? 1. Infantry squads 2. Conscripts 3. Scions (all as we know them) 4. Shock troopers Which would be perhaps like you said no HWT, extra special weapon and more movement Does give us some variety. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Just now, duz_ said: If regiments go away then I guess this gives another troop option? 1. Infantry squads 2. Conscripts 3. Scions (all as we know them) 4. Shock troopers Which would be perhaps like you said no HWT, extra special weapon and more movement Does give us some variety. I’ll bet scions will still be separated from normal guard some how, but they definitely said regiments can be mixed and matched, and then you choose army rules like that death cult or parade drill or whatever they’re called. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 From what was said, Cadian shock troops will probably get their own datasheet! I believe these units will be able to have extra special weapons within the squad. Kasrkin will also get their own specific rules. There seems to be a shift towards a more “elite” approach with the Guard. I’m happy that they mentioned the “Cult of Sacrifice” rule as it proves that Krieg will be in the new book. It would appear that there’s no need to build around a single Regiment (though I’m a purest and will only field my beloved Krieg) and many regiments working together will be a perfectly valid way to play! Slave to Darkness and Emperor Ming 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 I can't see kasarkin being elite with s3 guns, unless theirs are better Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369215-9th-ed-wishlist/page/30/#findComment-5873517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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