Taliesin Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I hope they dont delay anything and that they dont read this thread where some are hoping they will not release new stuff after years of complaing about how output has slowed to a trickle! LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I hope they dont delay anything and that they dont read this thread where some are hoping they will not release new stuff after years of complaing about how output has slowed to a trickle! Who hopes that nothing new will come? LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) Well, if they don't release the box this year they won't geht my money. Since the pictures were leaked I set aside an amount that would be enough for two boxes (at least I hope so :-D) But over time I find myself more on the Forgeworld website and contemplating buying a second Warhound. They will most likely never see a game together but a pack of Warhounds is a pack of Warhounds. Â Well, we will see. :-D Edited September 1, 2021 by derLumpi Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Well, if they don't release the box this year they won't geht my money. Since the pictures were leaked I set aside an amount that would be enough for two boxes (at least I hope so :-D) But over time I find myself more on the Forgeworld website and contemplating buying a second Warhound. They will most likely never see a game together but a pack of Warhounds is a pack of Warhounds.  Well, we will see. :-D May I introduce you to the wonders of the Titans Walk? https://youtu.be/5frPcHbL7vg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Yeah the Titan Walk ist awesome. But I'm located in Germany so won't bei that easy to attend. Aaand I have yet to finish the first one. :-D Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Well, if they don't release the box this year they won't geht my money. Since the pictures were leaked I set aside an amount that would be enough for two boxes (at least I hope so :-D) But over time I find myself more on the Forgeworld website and contemplating buying a second Warhound. They will most likely never see a game together but a pack of Warhounds is a pack of Warhounds.  Well, we will see. :-D  I'm the same id like to pick up two boxes and i'm not buying anything else until they come out. I don't see the point of buying any units as a newer Horus Heresy player as all the rumours point to everything being rescaled. I will probably pick up the sons of Horus praetors when they come out but that's about it. The wait is a pain and it still baffles me they've not even acknowledged it yet. Grim Dog Studios 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Basicly I'm flying on sight. I'll only buy what I'll paint as my next project. Since the IF Praetors just released I'll paint those next and I will.propably get some more vhicles for.my fists since I wont be rescaling them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021  Well, if they don't release the box this year they won't geht my money. Since the pictures were leaked I set aside an amount that would be enough for two boxes (at least I hope so :-D) But over time I find myself more on the Forgeworld website and contemplating buying a second Warhound. They will most likely never see a game together but a pack of Warhounds is a pack of Warhounds.  Well, we will see. :-D  I'm the same id like to pick up two boxes and i'm not buying anything else until they come out. I don't see the point of buying any units as a newer Horus Heresy player as all the rumours point to everything being rescaled. I will probably pick up the sons of Horus praetors when they come out but that's about it. The wait is a pain and it still baffles me they've not even acknowledged it yet.   I'm doing pretty much the same! I have 2000 points of SoH built in various states of paint progress, so using this time to blast through those and save my pennies up to get two boxes on release (apart from the SoH praetors I'll be getting on release) and get back to restarting my Ultramarines! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Not sure if this has been picked up, but the Legion Grav Gun weapon set has popped up today and I think it has been a while since that was in stock? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 Not sure if this has been picked up, but the Legion Grav Gun weapon set has popped up today and I think it has been a while since that was in stock? It was touted as a new release (think it was launched last Friday with the IF Praetors). I'm guessing the previous one had grips instead of hands? Never paid much attention to grav to be honest. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Despair Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 yeah they were culled as part of the last chance to buy fiasco of 2018 but I can't remember if they were re-done prior to that to have the hand instead of the grip at the same time as all the other weapons did. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Same story as the Umbra Bolter set then - and the hands on them are painted the same as well I think.  Been away from this thread / the forum for a while, but am absolutely loving the semi-regular pattern of releases & previews that is in flow now. Nice to know for certain that there is stuff coming soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 So do any other Fraters have rising concerns regarding the new scale with the new IF in mind? I feel like GW have decided that the Primaris scale is best and is upscaling to that with no regards to their current kits (Mk3/4 and the Cata and Tart termies) which make up a fair bit of people's armies. Â If (this is a big bloody if) this is just the 'Heroic HQ' scale and the new marks are just under Primaris (or even CSM scale) I could probably live with that, but would have to swap kits about to make them look a similar height. If this is a sign of the times... well I'm not sure I'm all for it anymore... Sparika 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 They've been upscaling the recent kits to near CSM/Primaris size for years now, all the DA kits are noticeably taller as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I think the best course of action for people who don't like to mix models of distinct scales is to begin a new army, and I'm sure that GW/FW knows it too Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 The fresh blood will start with the re-scaled kits, while I am sure there are enough HH vets that don't need much excuse/ arm twisting to start a new HH army in the new scale anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) Im not too worried since I'm generally OK with HQ Units standing out and, with Polux and Sigismund having their own uber-mega resin rocks to make them almost twice as tall as a plastic Mk IV marine (with the display base, a bit less without them), the scale difference will only become apparent if you hold them up next to each other side by side and at less than arms length away. Edited September 3, 2021 by Slips Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparika Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I am kind of worried because I prefer the smaller scale marines and obviously a consistent style across my armies. Large miniatures make nice pieces but they also take more space, take longer to paint and fit even less inside vehicles. I can live with a Primarch not being able to enter a Spartan, but if any tac marine make it looks like a Rhino... Sure, squatty pose for plastic marines is quite bad, but I have Raldoron or Tylos Rubio and those miniatures are incredible and quite well proportioned. Â I am wondering whether there is much space for size increase in a Mk6 marine sprue. The Mk4 or Mk3 are already well packed and I am under the impression that kits that got rescaled a lot got their number of model per sprue reduced. e.g. tactical marines are 10 on 3 sprues while intercessors are 10 on 4 sprues. Since the content of the next HH box leaked with 30 marines and quite a lot of other stuff, I believe the marines are still 10/3 and so probably not much rescaled. Maybe something comparable to deathwatch (also 10/4 but have a lot of bits). Deathguard which I find too big and a lot of people are calling truescale Mk3 are 7/3 according to pics on the GW store. Â The recent FW release are probably demonstrating I'm wrong and widhful thinking. But these releases are resin special characters, so maybe they got even bigger ... Â Worst case scenario, the heresy is rescaled and the rule system updates. Then there would be plenty of aftermarket marines on ebay and I would still play with the old rules doing cross-games with Battlefleet Gothic (in my dreams :D). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021  I am wondering whether there is much space for size increase in a Mk6 marine sprue. The Mk4 or Mk3 are already well packed and I am under the impression that kits that got rescaled a lot got their number of model per sprue reduced. e.g. tactical marines are 10 on 3 sprues while intercessors are 10 on 4 sprues. Check out the sprues of the new Chaos Marines multipart kit, it has 10 guys in 3 sprues with several torso variants for the same legs, and weapons equivalent to a MkIV box. They're just more densely packed. Sparika 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 A little scale creep is fine and unavoidable really. But....l will reserve judgement until the models are actually out in the wild. Â Even then it probably won't bug me. Most of the time we are talking a matter of a millimetre or maybe two and I think you have to be looking pretty hard to even notice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Scale creep is fine, but scale creep within the same army looks odd. I gave up 40k because of primaris, not because the marines got bigger, but that they shared the same space - without monologuing - had GW released primaris intercessors and said 'wayhey, look how awesome new tactical marines look!' I'd have been massively on board. But that they had to invent reasons for them all living together.....meh, not for me.  So, if my blood angels guys are smaller than the new guys, then I don't want to add the new guys to my blood angels - but I will start a new faction based on the new sculpts - probably. If they are as uncomfortable to build as primaris or the new chaos marines then I might not, but I do want the spartans so..... Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5737980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris R Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) A little scale creep is fine and unavoidable really. But....l will reserve judgement until the models are actually out in the wild.  Even then it probably won't bug me. Most of the time we are talking a matter of a millimetre or maybe two and I think you have to be looking pretty hard to even notice. That’s on the mark. One thing I have to remind myself whenever I see the mistakes I couldn’t correct at the end of a painting project is that other people won’t notice them or care as much as I do. If the new models are slightly larger, I think most people looking at an army with different scales will do the same and not care, especially if you do an ace job painting all of them. I know others disagree but that’s how I see it. Edited September 3, 2021 by Cris R Cactus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5738000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loquille Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 We have some Heresy releases! Argel Tal finally makes his appearance, and a really quick turn around from being previewed. The Ultramarine Praetors are being released.  https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/05/sunday-preview-two-new-battletomes-and-a-whole-new-show-on-warhammer/?fbclid=IwAR2wJHSdk-8GFtPMXC8vWXjbonFG0AzlTt84gE94V_59fbEzJWGtJV1cXH4 Corswain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5738470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Odd that they've broken their month and a half pace between releases for the first time in many months, as well as double stacked Argel Tal with the UM praetors. That only leaves the SoH Praetor(s?) left out of what they've announced so far. Loquille 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5738472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Ya it seems like they're ramping up releases for some unknown reason lol. WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/42/#findComment-5738497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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