Clockworkchris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Here are the daemonic gifts Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Ah yes the good old 3.5 veterans and demon gifts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesalius Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Ok here is a weird one... Greater possessed are supposedly not in the codex Regular possessed S5 t5 w3 5a So either the greater possessed sculpts are going to be used as normal possessed Either these playtester ruleset he has is something special Or maybe hes trying to blurr the line because of all the attention this is getting. My info was on Valrak and spikey bits, so weve gobe full on mainstream. The rumor from awhile back had a quick line about the new possessed being big models. So maybe GP will be rolled into possessed. I’m not sure if GW has ever renamed units like this before, but I could definitely see it! Thanks for these, getting hyped for new CSM. Clockworkchris 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Ah yes the good old 3.5 veterans and demon gifts. Hopefully this is the book that breaks the curse. :) SanguinaryGuardsman, Llagos_Tyrant, BadgersinHills and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDops Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Here are the old veteran skills if we want to theorize while I await more details. At a guess for 9th ed: Counter-attack - heroic intervention Furious charge - +1 strength on charge Infiltrate - set up anywhere Move through cover - ignore movement penalties Night vision - not too sure Siege specialist - ignore cover Skilled Rider - not too sure Tank hunters - reroll 1s to wound against vehicle Clockworkchris 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 At a guess for 9th ed:Counter-attack - heroic interventionFurious charge - +1 strength on chargeInfiltrate - set up anywhereMove through cover - ignore movement penaltiesNight vision - Ignores cover (night fighting was a turn 1 rule that gave everyone cover even if not in terrain, night vision ignored this)Siege specialist - reroll random shots or reroll random damageSkilled Rider - roll 2d6 drop lowest for advance, or auto advance 6''Tank hunters - reroll 1s to wound against vehicle & monsters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 From what ive been told chosen are like csm troops in terms of strength and resilience, so no invuls . I have no info on their attack profile/movement/ws/bs. I was told they gain an additionnal trait that you can choose. Could be a trait from the "build-your-own-warband" part which is most likely coming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 An interesting tidbit from the Eldar Codex leaker: CWE has -some- ignore invuln, tau and chaos have a lot more though Currently we have one way of turning off Invulns with Death Hex, I wonder what else we'll get and whether it'll be Legion locked like T'au Marshal Loss and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 An interesting tidbit from the Eldar Codex leaker: CWE has -some- ignore invuln, tau and chaos have a lot more though Currently we have one way of turning off Invulns with Death Hex, I wonder what else we'll get and whether it'll be Legion locked like T'au We've also got one daemon weapon that ignores invuls currently (Q'd'ak, the Boundless - Tzeentch only), from Faith & Fury. If they're playing to the nostalgia crowd we may well see the return of the Dreadaxe in some form TrawlingCleaner and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Wanton Destruction, Massacre & Slaughter So much thanks for the leaks. I lovet hese names for the "doctrines"! The news on the cult troops is interesting. I would love proper big possessed. And the rumouresd stats would make sense on the greater possessed sized possessed. Maybe I should scour my local area for cheap greater possessed :D Aside from this, I will get the impression, that CSM are gonna be a "dark reflection" of the loyalist astartes with their own twist on it. I assume the Warpsmith will work similar to the techmarine? So the Forgefiend hiting on 2+ and doing 4 damage would mean, that daemon engines have BS 3+, the Warpsmith puts the +1 to hit buff on it, it supercharges it's plasma cannons to D3 and gains an extra +1 from a WT? Damn this all sounds so plausible :D I know this isn't some request thread, but pretty please, can you get some confirmation about daemon engines, that they work similar to DG and TS ones? Like BS 3+? And maybe if Lascannons finally managed to be 3+d3 damage? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Daemon Engines rules for DG and Sons are all the confirmation we realistically need for the 3+ Unfortunately the same is true for your hopes for changes to Lascannons, but such is life... I'm enjoying stretching the grey matter on what may be, not that I needed any more reasons to be looking forward to the new CSM codex. It has been a long time coming! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) The lack of Greater Possessed is against standard GW policy there, moving kits to Legends that were just released would be a massive red flag for a lot of people. So I'm not going to dwell on that any further, that they're gone in entirety goes against my better judgment so it's just a wait and see on that one. As for the cult marine changes, I only thought plague marines and all made sense for Black Legion (excluding EC/WE from that). I just can't quite imagine Rubric Marines as Word Bearers for instance. So maybe Black Legion will get some rules for incorporating them better, but maybe not. Edited January 27, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Maybe they make Greater Possesed unit upgrade, like champions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I would prefer the greater possessed models just be the new regular possessed. Vettanker, Dhar'Neth, Vanger and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate Khornate Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I could see Greater possessed getting rolled into something different. It was more than a little odd how they worked to begin with. Now if they do become the standard possessed that would be amazing. Plus I fully expect the current start collecting box to get phased out/modified into the combat patrol, it's too cost efficient for GW to keep it the same. Which could remove the issue of no model no rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 What is everyone expecting to see at the LVO reveal tonight? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Nothing for chaos shown beyond the eldritch storm models, would be my prediction. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 What is everyone expecting to see at the LVO reveal tonight? Doomrider resculpt and preview of new Emperor's Children Codex. Doctor Perils, Maschinenpriester, Vesalius and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Obviously new Lorgar, Kor Phaeron and Erebus sculpts, with the Word Bearers standalone codex announced /s. Maybe something like a character to start the tease, a Chaos Lord perhaps? Danielatar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockworkchris Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 What is everyone expecting to see at the LVO reveal tonight? Doomrider resculpt and preview of new Emperor's Children Codex. Oh my sweet summer child... guys should we tell him? smbarne 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 The CSM codex isn't even out yet and they already started buffing the loyalist characters... Danielatar, Marshal Loss, WrathOfTheLion and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesalius Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I’m expecting for 40k all we’ll see is Eldar… but I’d really love to get a peek at the possessed or new cultists. Akylas and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon303 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 So with greater Possessed going then that's the only non HQ character removed. Can you see if you can get any word on if any of our HQs are moving to elites we are very top heavy! Thanks! Dr_Ruminahui 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 So with greater Possessed going then that's the only non HQ character removed. Can you see if you can get any word on if any of our HQs are moving to elites we are very top heavy! Thanks! Master of Executions at least would be pretty swell to move to elites. I'd say exalted champion, too, but I don't see that happening given LTs are HQs. Dr_Ruminahui 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 What if Greater Possessed are not a unit entry, but there's a Stratagem to upgrade an Exalted Champion or similar to a Greater Possessed? That could happen (think the current "Red Butchers"). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371366-what-to-expect-from-9e-csm/page/19/#findComment-5789804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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