Malakithe Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Heavy Bolters not being heavy is awkward Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Digging the wyvern. Suppression makes it super useful in a gunfight against any ranged target. Squadron keyword. Hmm… VengefulJan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) More: *Looks at his 3 basilisks. Fiendish grin.* Edited June 3, 2023 by Khornestar Jaipii and Ammonius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Looks like Artillery is back on the menu Ammonius and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 DKK: Sentinel: Ratings: HWT: Primaris Psyker: 4 enhancements: Lord Marshal and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Scout Sentinel looks sexy. Looks pretty easy to get Guard vehicle arty to hit on 2 rerolling 1s. And that Psyker with a blob of 20 infantry + command squad just looks frustrating to deal with. Here's 26 bodies, OC3, 5+/4++/4+++ against psychic/6+++ in general. Maritn and Khornestar 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaipii Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, sairence said: And that Psyker with a blob of 20 infantry + command squad just looks frustrating to deal with. Here's 26 bodies, OC3, 5+/4++/4+++ against psychic/6+++ in general. That 4++ invuln is against everything! Edit. Whoops! I missread your post! Edited June 3, 2023 by Jaipii Misread the op Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyedrops Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 5+ heavy weapons teams? The mechanically supported, crew served weapon systems hit on a 5+ or am I an idiot whos reading it wrong? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just now, eyedrops said: 5+ heavy weapons teams? The mechanically supported, crew served weapon systems hit on a 5+ or am I an idiot whos reading it wrong? They all have heavy so your hit on 4s unless you move so same as its been since 8th FollowerofDG 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyedrops Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rune Priest Jbickb said: They all have heavy so your hit on 4s unless you move so same as its been since 8th Appreciated, I tapped out of the gaming portion of 40k in 8th thanks for the reminder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero888 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Basilisk and Wyvern average basically the same number of shots, I don't really see anyone ever taking a Wyvern? The multi laser is back to being the most useless heavy weapon in 40k. Psychic Barrier is fantastic. Ratlings hit on 2s if they stand still, not sure if that's the case now. No more mortal wounds for their snipers (first sniper rifle datasheet we've seen?) HWTs being able to overwatch on 4+ will be interesting, especially when you consider the new overwatch strat can be used by any unit when an enemy gets within 24", not just getting charged. Sergeant Bastone 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, zero888 said: Basilisk and Wyvern average basically the same number of shots, I don't really see anyone ever taking a Wyvern? The multi laser is back to being the most useless heavy weapon in 40k. Psychic Barrier is fantastic. Ratlings hit on 2s if they stand still, not sure if that's the case now. No more mortal wounds for their snipers (first sniper rifle datasheet we've seen?) HWTs being able to overwatch on 4+ will be interesting, especially when you consider the new overwatch strat can be used by any unit when an enemy gets within 24", not just getting charged. The hit debuff from wyverns is pretty good. Just including 1 in a list seems worthwhile. Yeah. poor, pathetic multilaser. Eldar rangers have the same thing with their sniper rifles, I believe. Edited June 3, 2023 by Khornestar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero888 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Also, it looks like a 20 man blob of DKOK can field 6x total special weapons, that's not shabby at all EDIT: Just realized the Missile Launcher is the only Sentinel weapon with the heavy keyword, letting you hit on 3s if you stay still. I REALLY like that so it gives you an argument to not always take a lascannon instead of a missile launcher Edited June 3, 2023 by zero888 Khornestar and sairence 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderXIII Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 The guard are looking good! Slightly annoyed about the whole vox caster or plasma gun thing with the kriegers again though. Especially when you have 2 vox caster sets in the kit, one of which just replaces a random goon's backpack but otherwise they are looking solid. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Plasma is no longer the anti-anything choice for sentinels. 3MW when overheated is painful. What will be the better all comers choice? Autocannon? Lascannon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Im a bit surprised by the lack of LRs or Dorns in the game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Khornestar said: More: *Looks at his 3 basilisks. Fiendish grin.* *nods and laughs in Squadron keyword* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I don’t quite understand the DKK medpack. It’s got a rule as wargear but isn’t listed as wargear in any way. Do we then assume it’s just built into the unit as a whole? Missing wargear entry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Bastone Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tokugawa said: Plasma is no longer the anti-anything choice for sentinels. 3MW when overheated is painful. What will be the better all comers choice? Autocannon? Lascannon? Autocannon seems pretty good. Although, it could be that the missile launcher is a good all-comers choice now?! It's the only gun with Heavy so hitting on 3s if you can stand still. Meh, S9 AP2 Dd6 still isn't good vs vehicles (autocannon better) and S4 blasts is only okay vs infantry. I dunno, maybe. I can't believe they nerfed the multilaser. It was already a terrible choice! They should give it Rapid Fire 2 to make it playable. Edited June 3, 2023 by Sergeant Bastone Khornestar and CrusaderXIII 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Autocannon looks a solid all-round choice. It'll wound things like Wave Serpents on a 4+ and lighter stuff on a 3+. The flat 3 damage means it can one-shot Terminators if they fail any saves. Leave serious tank hunting to Lascannons etc but for flexibility, the autocannon gets my vote. Khornestar, Emperor Ming, Inquisitor_Lensoven and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 8 hours ago, sairence said: Scout Sentinel looks sexy. Looks pretty easy to get Guard vehicle arty to hit on 2 rerolling 1s. And that Psyker with a blob of 20 infantry + command squad just looks frustrating to deal with. Here's 26 bodies, OC3, 5+/4++/4+++ against psychic/6+++ in general. Boo!!! 1 hour ago, Karhedron said: Autocannon looks a solid all-round choice. It'll wound things like Wave Serpents on a 4+ and lighter stuff on a 3+. The flat 3 damage means it can one-shot Terminators if they fail any saves. Leave serious tank hunting to Lascannons etc but for flexibility, the autocannon gets my vote. I’ve been banking on autocannons for so long, it’s finally my time! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Russ might not be news, but: Very handy for clearing objectives, the ol’ Russ. And scout on the catachans is nice, too. Edited June 3, 2023 by Khornestar CrusaderXIII, Kallas and sairence 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Yossarian Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I don't see why you'd take anything but DkoK now. The ability to pile in 4 special weapons, native med pack, and +1 to hit once damaged makes them bonkers better. Also the Sargent's get power weapons and plasma pistols if you want to push them forward with Melta Guns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Bastone Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Commissar Yossarian said: I don't see why you'd take anything but DkoK now. The ability to pile in 4 special weapons, native med pack, and +1 to hit once damaged makes them bonkers better. Also the Sargent's get power weapons and plasma pistols if you want to push them forward with Melta Guns. You're taking 5 special weapons since there's no point in taking double vox. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Oh wow, Russ with built in rerolls is sexy. Explains why it's not heavy, it's just not needed. I suspect they'll be able to operate pretty self-contained, without needing any support. Very nice to have a unit like that. Just...where are the other turret options? Are they all separate datasheets again? In that case I suspect they are no longer vehicle squadrons. With no real force org restrictions I suppose it wouldn't really matter anywany. Really surprised it kept it's 13th wound, that's great. Don't really get the "Boo!" In the previous comment... Edited June 3, 2023 by sairence Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378582-faction-focus-astra-militarum/page/6/#findComment-5954819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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