Taliesin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 63-19 said: Will you get kicked off of the website if there's a queue and you sit there too long? If the website is going to be under a queue the entire time up until the release for me should I try and connect half an hour before? Yes apparently it kicks you out as well when you finally get in there. And of course as everyone sees, it doesnt work anyway because it keeps going from 10 to 32 to 15 to 45 minutes etc. It really is as if you're on Candid Camera or America's funniest home video and computer users' reactions are being filmed for hilarious footage of deeply irritated customers. Or wannabe customers, I should say. Edited January 13 by Taliesin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, OpossumStrong said: You got 10 minutes after you enter the website (after the queue), It's on queue since yesterday, you definitely should try to get before, but not too early, otherwise you will get kicked before the book appears. For some 30 minutes early wasn't good enough and they had hour+ of queue, for some it was way faster, it's pure luck right now. I know nothing about the background details of how this works, so forgive me if this sounds absolutely silly, but is this 10 minutes if you're idle? Or 10 minutes regardless? My only thought was that if someone (i.e. scalping) was in there running close to 3-4 dozen transactions as you can see in the screenshots in the topic in the News/New stuff section of the forum, would it reset and give them more time because they're actively purchasing? Regardless I feel for those who wanted this/needed it for their collection and missed out. It's truly a frustrating system, and I think for me, who gave up after not getting PT 2, it's only made worse by the apparent "not our problem" stance that GW has taken. The folks buying these (scalpers aside) are the dedicated fanbase that you want in your customer base who care about the setting that the company has created, and to treat them like this, or make it as frustrating as GW is making it is really sad Crowl 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of the forest Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 It's 10 mins on the site regardless of activity darkhorse0607 and OpossumStrong 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpossumStrong Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said: I know nothing about the background details of how this works, so forgive me if this sounds absolutely silly, but is this 10 minutes if you're idle? Or 10 minutes regardless? My only thought was that if someone (i.e. scalping) was in there running close to 3-4 dozen transactions as you can see in the screenshots in the topic in the News/New stuff section of the forum, would it reset and give them more time because they're actively purchasing? Regardless I feel for those who wanted this/needed it for their collection and missed out. It's truly a frustrating system, and I think for me, who gave up after not getting PT 2, it's only made worse by the apparent "not our problem" stance that GW has taken. The folks buying these (scalpers aside) are the dedicated fanbase that you want in your customer base who care about the setting that the company has created, and to treat them like this, or make it as frustrating as GW is making it is really sad 10 minutes regardless, also as soon as you checking out you kicked back to the queue. There are options to bypass the queue system, one of the options works similar to cheats in multiplayer games(false packets\data)...so if they can't do a thing about I doubt GW would even try. darkhorse0607 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) I just managed to place my order for the regular hardback. So thats done at least. 37 EUR with shipping, quite a lot of money for a standard book, but with this much scarcity deliberately created, I decided to just go for it,none of the 3rd party sellers over here show stock. When I clicked "back to warhammer.com" like they suggested, I was thrown off the site and back into the queue. Edited January 13 by Taliesin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevalierdulys Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 19 minutes ago, Taliesin said: I just managed to place my order for the regular hardback. So thats done at least. 37 EUR with shipping, quite a lot of money for a standard book, but with this much scarcity deliberately created, I decided to just go for it,none of the 3rd party sellers over here show stock. When I clicked "back to warhammer.com" like they suggested, I was thrown off the site and back into the queue. You could get it via amazon cheaper. I believe normal HB are sold at less than 30€. Even more, via blackwells (27€ includes shipping)https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-End-and-the-Death-Volume-III-by-Dan-Abnett/9781804074886 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 That’s the first BL book I’ve bought since the last siege book. I haven’t even read it yet. These Saturday scrambles have finished me. I wasn’t even that disappointed in missing today limited ed. Whole collection going back decades. Can’t see me buying anymore. GW burnout. Lost interest. Better things to stress over I think. aa.logan 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemartestheLost Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Somehow got rushed to front of queue 40 minutes early so now that that I've been able to return to queue it's an hour before I can re-access the site. Definitely missing out today, folks. Have I mentioned that I loathe this site and the way that GW releases everything before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelious Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) What I dont get is that it seems like they changed the behaviour of the queing system itself as it seems the way it used to work is that it would begin in NA at 1 pm even if you waited 30 minutes beforehand it would reset so everyone would begin waiting at the same time. Now it seems very different like you are hoping to hit a sweet spot of the release time. I'd imagine that all the scalpers are running bots that are flooding the system because currently ive been stuck at 30 minutes estimated time, for 30 minutes, sometimes the times goes up and down and I opened numerous queues on multiple browsers just observe the behaviour. Edited January 13 by Krelious LemartestheLost 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADarke Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 NA sold out yet? Been sitting in the NA queue for 30+ mins, hardly budging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63-19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) yep its sold out na. queue makes it more miserable then before. 4 computers and a phone with staggered connections to the website wasnt good enough. Edited January 13 by 63-19 LemartestheLost 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgcleric Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, 63-19 said: yep its sold out na. queue makes it more miserable then before. 4 computers and a phone with staggered connections to the website wasnt good enough. Cool... still have 6 minutes left in queue. Been here for an hour. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 same story here. had a qeue let me in at 103, but its gone. honestly, i might be skipping all les going forward. experience is miserable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelious Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 44 minutes ago, 63-19 said: yep its sold out na. queue makes it more miserable then before. 4 computers and a phone with staggered connections to the website wasnt good enough. You know i realized that its the :cuss:ing American scalpers that are ruining it for me because ive seen a sum total of 1 person in Canada selling Vol 3 on Ebay and his copy sold out within 3 minutes of it being listed. I mean it seems really stupid that GW doesnt parse their website into different versions based on where you are in the world. Its gotten to the point where I have Vol 1 and 2 in LE and now I dont even want the third copy because of this bull-:cuss:. I dont feel like being ripped off for something I waited for. I dont even want to read the books anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63-19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 "A queue will be in place at Warhammer.com to ensure fairness." LOL Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemartestheLost Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I ended up grabbing the hardback and will be a happy camper eventually. I have to say that I am rather glad that we are close to ending to this preordering fiasco BL-wise, though. All we have left to suffer through is the Horus Primarch Novel, Pandaemonium, Black Legion 3, and Spears 2 before scalpers might leave us alone!!!! skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpharius902 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, LemartestheLost said: I ended up grabbing the hardback and will be a happy camper eventually. I have to say that I am rather glad that we are close to ending to this preordering fiasco BL-wise, though. All we have left to suffer through is the Horus Primarch Novel, Pandaemonium, Black Legion 3, and Spears 2 before scalpers might leave us alone!!!! And the next Ghosts novel, and the final Dawn of Fire novel, and the next hardcover background book they release, and... They've seen how much folks are willing to pay for these books. As long as BL keeps making these tiny print runs with no limits on how many people can purchase a limited edition, scalpers are going to continue to be an issue. aa.logan, Crowl and System Sound 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylerboodie Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, LemartestheLost said: I ended up grabbing the hardback and will be a happy camper eventually. I have to say that I am rather glad that we are close to ending to this preordering fiasco BL-wise, though. All we have left to suffer through is the Horus Primarch Novel, Pandaemonium, Black Legion 3, and Spears 2 before scalpers might leave us alone!!!! For any scalpers reading this forum, none of these books are worth you trying to get; your best bet to make money is sticking it all on Dawn of Fire 8 and the next AOS launch book tie-in limited editions, and steering well clear of the above... Scribe, son of the forest, Alpharius902 and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemartestheLost Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Alpharius902 said: And the next Ghosts novel, and the final Dawn of Fire novel, and the next hardcover background book they release, and... They've seen how much folks are willing to pay for these books. As long as BL keeps making these tiny print runs with no limits on how many people can purchase a limited edition, scalpers are going to continue to be an issue. Of course, it's all jokes. Gotta laugh somehow or else the whole thing gets too damn irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpossumStrong Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 36 minutes ago, Alpharius902 said: And the next Ghosts novel, and the final Dawn of Fire novel, and the next hardcover background book they release, and... They've seen how much folks are willing to pay for these books. As long as BL keeps making these tiny print runs with no limits on how many people can purchase a limited edition, scalpers are going to continue to be an issue. DoF Sea of Souls still available to order, and I like it, just like the good old times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just going to leave this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/s/aCwQKkYRAA On one hand, fans with too much money and no sense. And on the other, company who doesn't care at all. As someone who travels a lot and has family on multiple continents, I'm lucky I can try to go for LEs in almost all available regions. All my attempts failed and you know what? I'm glad. I'm tired of these weekends. I get almost no pleasure from buying these books anymore. If I'm completely honest with myself, the last LE I was, and still am, truly happy with is Lords of Silence. It's been going to * since then. Even fighting over hardbacks is tiring. Paperbacks or ebooks from warp sources it is. DarkChaplain, OpossumStrong, Ubiquitous1984 and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, theSpirea said: Even fighting over hardbacks is tiring. I just tried on the Canadian site for the normal hardback. Insufficient Stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubiquitous1984 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 14 hours ago, theSpirea said: Just going to leave this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/s/aCwQKkYRAA As a hardcore LE collector, that's really depressing. We can never compete with this. DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 The fact the normal hardcover sold out as well has me reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally tilting this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Hopefully, if nothing else, the fact that scalpers are now taunting fans who couldn't get LEs legitimately will make people finally stop buying from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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