Full Dark Angel reveal

[Urauloth]

Companions look absolutely fantastic.

I'd kill for 30k plastic versions.

[Wispy]

8 hours ago, Subtleknife said:

y point is all first founding should have parity when it comes to upgrade sprues, 

No they shouldn't 

 

This isn't the Horus Heresy, the Codex chapters should get exactly what they've gotten in historically in 40k. 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Wispy

[Nephaston]

4 minutes ago, Kastor Krieg said:

One thing concerning to me is that the swords those Companions have are similar in size / proportions to the Cypher sword. And that was supposed to be Lion sized.

Well, cypher is very much still at the old scale, so a comparison doesn't really hold up. Like Scarab occult terminators compared to 10th ed terminators.

[Xirix]

19 minutes ago, jaxom said:

 Perhaps Deathwing Command Squads will still be sold in their own boxes? Doesn't seem like they'll pull product they can market differently from the new stuff until they're out of it.

 

I suppose this is a possibility, maybe with some more blinged-out Terminators. Though I must say I'm not overly enthralled with the idea of the current set, which makes three possible squads, being split up into three different products. -.-

[Xenith]

Not 100% on Belial, but otherwise, damn, these are amazing.

[Nephaston]

11 minutes ago, Xirix said:

I suppose this is a possibility, maybe with some more blinged-out Terminators. Though I must say I'm not overly enthralled with the idea of the current set, which makes three possible squads, being split up into three different products. -.-

Or perhaps a non-specific Terminator Company Heroes kit.

 

18 minutes ago, Wispy said:

No they shouldn't 

They should, but so should chaos and xenos have similar offerings.

[Wispy]

21 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

They should, but so should chaos and xenos have similar offerings.

meh. make character minis, not keychain sets. 

[OttoVonAwesome]

I swear these guys are Chaos marine sized, cosplaying as Primaris. The height just doesn't add up. I know I'm just eyeballing things but it's always worked before. Iv'e compared them to bladeguard and the chaos sorceror and they are coming up the same size as the sorcerer and a few mm shy of the bladeguard.

[Tokugawa]

Question: would the current deathwing terminators kits get retired?

[Xirix]

I imagine the current set will dissapear once these come out in their own boxes, yes. So if you want the old set, buy it now.

[Wispy]

35 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

I swear these guys are Chaos marine sized, cosplaying as Primaris. The height just doesn't add up. I know I'm just eyeballing things but it's always worked before. Iv'e compared them to bladeguard and the chaos sorceror and they are coming up the same size as the sorcerer and a few mm shy of the bladeguard.

 

People do this everytime. "Just maybe, this time, it's not a Primaris but secretly a First Born in disguise!"

 

When it's the same scale.

 

Somewhat eyeballed scale using the bases, the models have slightly different perspectives and postures but they're very much in the same ball park.

 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Wispy

[Nova-V]

I've got a mate who plays Raven Wing.  Once GW inevitably discontinue the RW Bike Squadron to field a new unit of bikes will cost £100.50? That seems madness.  The upgrade sprue seems a bit too broad and will punish those specialising.  I think it's a worrying precedent to set when bits that make a unit a particular unit are locked to these upgrade boxes.  Unlike say the Cadian box which is just alternates and fluff extras.

[Scribe]

22 minutes ago, Wispy said:

People do this everytime. "Just maybe, this time, it's not a Primaris but secretly a First Born in disguise!"

 

The sooner people realize and accept that 'first born' are done and dusted, the sooner the healing can begin.

[mecanojavi99]

19 minutes ago, Wispy said:

 

People do this everytime. "Just maybe, this time, it's not a Primaris but secretly a First Born in disguise!"

 

When it's the same scale.

 

Somewhat eyeballed scale using the bases, the models have slightly different perspectives and postures but they're very much in the same ball park.

 

Seeing them side by side you can really see how similar they are to Bladeguard, they are wearing the exact same armor but DA flavoured.

 

Funnily enough, because of the lack of Storm Shields, unless they have some relic mcguffin under the hood they would be worse at protecting characters than Bladeguard, who as far as I'm aware are not meant to be bodyguards.

[mecanojavi99]

2 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

The sooner people realize and accept that 'first born' are done and dusted, the sooner the healing can begin.

To be fair, it's also GWs fault for dragging it for so long, had they being up front from the first moment about Primaris eventually replacing all Firstborn, then most people would have moved on already.

[OttoVonAwesome]

Knew I could trick someone into photoshopping a comparison for me.  These are great though I'm a huge fan of the bladeguard armour pattern. Now hopefully they suck ruleswise so I'm not tempted to get that Dark Angel Terminator army.

8 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

The sooner people realize and accept that 'first born' are done and dusted, the sooner the healing can begin.

Hey if there was one unit that would be it would be the Companions. I'm fully aware Primaris are the new tea I just wish they'd finish the job and make Primaris Tacticals, Devastators and Centurions.

[OttoVonAwesome]

4 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said:

To be fair, it's also GWs fault for dragging it for so long, had they being up front from the first moment about Primaris eventually replacing all Firstborn, then most people would have moved on already.

Also not entirely gone. I fully expect to see plastic mark 7 for age of darkness and a scouring, badab or age of apostasy supplement at some point.

[Scribe]

10 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said:

To be fair, it's also GWs fault for dragging it for so long, had they being up front from the first moment about Primaris eventually replacing all Firstborn, then most people would have moved on already.

 

Without a doubt, they could have and should have just laid it out in the beginning that it was a rescaling.

[Cryptix]

17 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said:

Seeing them side by side you can really see how similar they are to Bladeguard, they are wearing the exact same armor but DA flavoured.

 

Funnily enough, because of the lack of Storm Shields, unless they have some relic mcguffin under the hood they would be worse at protecting characters than Bladeguard, who as far as I'm aware are not meant to be bodyguards.

IIRC the Bladeguard invuln save in 9th actually came from their iron halos not their shields, so entirely possible the censer looking thing is just another iron halo and they still retain it (but lack the Bladeguard's option for fighting styles) 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Cryptix

[Nephaston]

11 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

Devastators and Centurions.

Devastator Intercessors for the all heavy bolter squad, maybe with 1 in 5 getting a different heavy weapon, would be legit funny and kind of my jam. Especially if they come with that asymmetric armour that the heavy bolter veteran in the company heroes kit has.

 

I could live without centurions though.

Edited December 26, 2023 by Nephaston

[mecanojavi99]

19 minutes ago, Cryptix said:

IIRC the Bladeguard invuln save in 9th actually came from their iron halos not their shields, so entirely possible the censer looking thing is just another iron halo and they still retain it (but lack the Bladeguard's option for fighting styles) 

I just checked and the Invuln comes from the shields, they don't have iron halos, so at first glance Companions won't have an Invuln.

[MoriyaSchism]

23 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

Also not entirely gone. I fully expect to see plastic mark 7 for age of darkness and a scouring, badab or age of apostasy supplement at some point.

I already have a company's worth of Primaris bodies thanks to the various boxed sets I bought over the last four years and I'm working on mixing them with my collection of old marine bits. I would prefer they do a mixed mark squad in Primaris scale to replace the Intercessors instead of releasing a mark 7 kit in the Horus Heresy 2.0 scale. They already gave us Mark 7 and Mark 6 helmets in three Primaris kits so far (Raven Guard upgrade set, Sternguard and Inner Circle Companions).

[crimsondave]

42 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

Without a doubt, they could have and should have just laid it out in the beginning that it was a rescaling.

 

Further evidence that it was a stealth rescale (and Risen) is that one has a Mk 4 helmet and one a Mk 5 helmet.  Couldn't place the other helmet.  Looks like a cross between 3 and 5.  Idk.

Edited December 26, 2023 by crimsondave

[mecanojavi99]

24 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

Devastator Intercessors for the all heavy bolter squad, maybe with 1 in 5 getting a different heavy weapon, would be legit funny and kind of my jam. Especially if they come with that asymmetric armour that the heavy bolter veteran in the company heroes kit has.

 

I could live without centurions though.

I would argue that a unit of only heavy bolters isn't really needed when we already have Heavy Intercessors.

 

Centurions much like Terminators don't really need to be resigned so much as their proportions need to be fixed and adapted to the newest models, add a little lore blurb explaining that Primaris marines can also use them and there really isn't much to it.

[mecanojavi99]

7 minutes ago, crimsondave said:

 

Further evidence that it was a stealth rescale (and Risen) is that one has a Mk 4 helmet and one a Mk 5 helmet.  Couldn't place the other helmet.

It's a MK X helmet, MK IV has a ^ shape at the end of the mouth area and the mouth area is tilted upwards, meanwhile MK X goes straight downward and no ^ shape.