Full Dark Angel reveal

[Rain]

1 hour ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

Also not entirely gone. I fully expect to see plastic mark 7 for age of darkness and a scouring, badab or age of apostasy supplement at some point.

I really want a Badab War expansion or spinoff for the HH system. Those IA books were some of the best 40k lore ever written.

It’s funny because I have no real interest in HH as (among other things) I’m tired of how overexposed it has gotten with the 50+ books about every last minor battle, and cataloging every last mole on Sigismund’s taint. The mystery and intrigue has totally been lost. But I’d love a Badab War game. Huron did nothing wrong.

[Wispy]

2 hours ago, mecanojavi99 said:

Seeing them side by side you can really see how similar they are to Bladeguard, they are wearing the exact same armor but DA flavoured.

 

Funnily enough, because of the lack of Storm Shields, unless they have some relic mcguffin under the hood they would be worse at protecting characters than Bladeguard, who as far as I'm aware are not meant to be bodyguards.

They deflect attacks with their swords like Jedi

[crimsondave]

2 hours ago, mecanojavi99 said:

It's a MK X helmet, MK IV has a ^ shape at the end of the mouth area and the mouth area is tilted upwards, meanwhile MK X goes straight downward and no ^ shape.

 

I stand corrected.  The other is a mk 5 though isn’t it?

[WrathOfTheLion]

12 minutes ago, crimsondave said:

I stand corrected.  The other is a mk 5 though isn’t it?

I think it's a MK VII helmet, some of those have the little nubs on the side like a MK V helmet.

Edited December 26, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion

[Orion]

53 minutes ago, crimsondave said:

I stand corrected.  The other is a mk 5 though isn’t it?

 

MK7

 

[Wolf Guard Dan]

Really nice reveal. I’m happy to see what GW is doing with a fellow codex divergent chapter. To follow the trend 3 of those companions in the box likely but the video did have a unit of 5. *Insert obligatory joke about heretical dark angels fielding actual heretics in their armies*. Companions look like dark angel bladeguard but they’re perfect in that design. Too bad Ravenwing wasn’t a part of this reveal. It would have been nice to see another  mounted character besides a chaplain.

[Corswain]

I like it. It's going to be hard to resist returning to 40K.

If they have a surprise Ezekiel somewhere it will be even harder.

[jaxom]

Ezekiel and Black Knights as a second wave once multipart Outriders are released would make sense as a second wave.

 

Funnily the lack of Ravenwing gives me hope for White Scars. Use them as the focus for a generic bikers and biker character release along with the WS upgrade sprue. Package it up in a special release box like the did the Brutalis and Decimators.

[Matrindur]

11 minutes ago, jaxom said:

Ezekiel and Black Knights as a second wave once multipart Outriders are released would make sense as a second wave.

I wouldn't bet on multipart outriders. We didn't even get multipart suppressors and those aren't even available on their own in contrast to the outriders which have a normal box. we might get more bits for them in future upgrade sets like the Ravenwing wing in this one but a full new kit? Miniscule chance for that.

[Mike8404]

6 hours ago, Wispy said:

 

People do this everytime. "Just maybe, this time, it's not a Primaris but secretly a First Born in disguise!"

 

When it's the same scale.

 

Somewhat eyeballed scale using the bases, the models have slightly different perspectives and postures but they're very much in the same ball park.

 

Had this same argument on the Dark Angels Facebook page.  It honestly messes up new players when people claim these are First Born.  New players don't want First Born, they want Primaris.  Going through the Black Templars update a few years ago people did the same thing with the Emps Champ.  There were so many new players asking the same question.  "Is Helbrecht/Grimaldus/Sword Brethren Primaris?".  Just to be told by salty anti-primaris players "no!".  It causes unnecessary confusion

[Orion]

2 minutes ago, Mike8404 said:

Had this same argument on the Dark Angels Facebook page.  It honestly messes up new players when people claim these are First Born.  New players don't want First Born, they want Primaris.  Going through the Black Templars update a few years ago people did the same thing with the Emps Champ.  There were so many new players asking the same question.  "Is Helbrecht/Grimaldus/Sword Brethren Primaris?".  Just to be told by salty anti-primaris players "no!".  It causes unnecessary confusion

 

Is it really that big of a deal?

People pushing meta builds and the Warhammer webstore being garbage I think have caused way more damage than that.

Not to mention it is a fact that some kits like the Castellan and Terminators are age agnostic.

[Mike8404]

3 minutes ago, JayJapanB said:

 

Is it really that big of a deal?

People pushing meta builds and the Warhammer webstore being garbage I think have caused way more damage than that.

Not to mention it is a fact that some kits like the Castellan and Terminators are age agnostic.

It's pretty annoying people can't read the writing on the wall that Primaris are the way forward and intentionally confuse new players.  I don't want a thousand repeat posts about Primaris kits clogging up my Facebook and Reddit feeds again lol

[Orion]

2 minutes ago, Mike8404 said:

It's pretty annoying people can't read the writing on the wall that Primaris are the way forward and intentionally confuse new players.  I don't want a thousand repeat posts about Primaris kits clogging up my Facebook and Reddit feeds again lol

 

Then just forget about it. No primaris, no firstborn.

I think we shouldn't push newbies to go either way.

Sometimes they just think something looks cool, and that should be the end of it.

 

I really don't understand why people are so hellbent on telling new players to not buy old kits.

[Mike8404]

14 minutes ago, JayJapanB said:

 

Then just forget about it. No primaris, no firstborn.

I think we shouldn't push newbies to go either way.

Sometimes they just think something looks cool, and that should be the end of it.

 

I really don't understand why people are so hellbent on telling new players to not buy old kits.

As a new player in 2018 who was given the "don't tell new players not to buy new kits" that was the absolute worst advice I was given since 99% of the kits I initially bought are now retired and look horrible compared to the new stuff, it are effectively going away in 40k (Tac Squads and Rhinos).  It was a complete waste of thousands of dollars.  Only kits that I do use are Ironclads and Centurions.  The rest I ended up giving away.

 

The issue is, everything today is Primaris, even if we can it "Tacticus" now. I'm not gonna rehash this argument here because this isn't the thread for it, but it's time to let First Born fall into 30k where they belong.

 

Companions are Primaris, it's just the way it is going forward.  The writing was on the wall 8 years ago

Edited December 26, 2023 by Mike8404

[Tokugawa]

1 hour ago, Mike8404 said:

Had this same argument on the Dark Angels Facebook page.  It honestly messes up new players when people claim these are First Born.  New players don't want First Born, they want Primaris.  Going through the Black Templars update a few years ago people did the same thing with the Emps Champ.  There were so many new players asking the same question.  "Is Helbrecht/Grimaldus/Sword Brethren Primaris?".  Just to be told by salty anti-primaris players "no!".  It causes unnecessary confusion

In 9th primaris was still a clearly printed keyword in rulebooks, so these units are 100% officially confirmed primaris.

[OttoVonAwesome]

8 hours ago, Rain said:

I really want a Badab War expansion or spinoff for the HH system. Those IA books were some of the best 40k lore ever written.

It’s funny because I have no real interest in HH as (among other things) I’m tired of how overexposed it has gotten with the 50+ books about every last minor battle, and cataloging every last mole on Sigismund’s taint. The mystery and intrigue has totally been lost. But I’d love a Badab War game. Huron did nothing wrong.

Badab is a core piece of 40k literature for sure. There's just something about the civil war periods that is undeniably cool no matter how many books get written about it. It's brother against brother and a clash of idiolgies it definitely beats what's going on now for me.. Does it really matter whatever the tau or the orks or necrons or any of those other xenos are doing really matter in the setting at all? Ultimately it's mankind vs itself, Imperium vs Chaos, xenos are fun to play but they aren't the main players. I'd rather catalog the moles on Sigismunds taint wich they don't unfortunetly do most of the books aren't very descriptive at all than hear whatever bull:cuss: the tau or the votaan are up to.

 

Don't get me wrong the infinite and the divine was a great novel but let's be real 40k isn't about them. It just features them.

[Marshall Bretton]

The companions are great, I'm pretty sure in terms of rules they will be something similar to what Templar sword brethren are. Less defensive and more aggressive with a unique rule to make them stand out a bit.

[MoriyaSchism]

43 minutes ago, Rain said:

Huron did nothing wrong.

Except he did, he leaned a bit to the side when he got blasted by a combi-melta.

[Jukkiz]

so the "inner circle companions" (weird name by the way)  Are just DA bladeguard basically?

[Blindhamster]

no, they don’t have shields and have bigger swords, going to guess it’s a squad of higher damage lower durability guys with some kind of bodyguard rule like sanguinary guard and company heroes (attach to character for x buff)

[irlLordy]

The explaination for why the notably friendly, welcoming and non paranoid Dark Angels accepted unknown Space Marines turning up and hanging around their senior commanders without any explaination will be ... interesting.

[Blindhamster]

Because their primarch also showed up and told them to. I wouldn’t be expect more than that

[lhg033]

I'm meant to be having a quiet year for Warhammer this year coming. I was content to think my existing DA armies will be enough and happy with the Deathwing terminators I have.

 

Dammit! 

 

I may end up slipping a bit for these. The upgrade sprues at least will likely be picked up to bling up the models in my pile of shame (though a lot of my Marines are from Imperium/Conquest etc so probably limited on the shoulder pads)

 

I might be strong enough to avoid the deathwing assault box/I'll probably miss out on it anyway.

[WrathOfTheLion]

1 hour ago, Blindhamster said:

Because their primarch also showed up and told them to. I wouldn’t be expect more than that

They may have their reservations, but every DA knows how to follow orders, so big man himself telling you to deal with it ends it pretty much there.

[jaxom]

8 hours ago, Matrindur said:.

 

8 hours ago, Matrindur said:

I wouldn't bet on multipart outriders. We didn't even get multipart suppressors and those aren't even available on their own in contrast to the outriders which have a normal box. we might get more bits for them in future upgrade sets like the Ravenwing wing in this one but a full new kit? Miniscule chance for that.

I think it might be the last kit needed to replace the core of the Space Marine range. ETB in a separate box was required once Indomitus was replaced by Leviathan. We can’t get new bits for them because ETB doesn’t take bits well. A multipart kit with separate arms and shoulder pads would go a long way. 

 

1 hour ago, Jukkiz said:

so the "inner circle companions" (weird name by the way)  Are just DA bladeguard basically?

 

 

The name is based on the 30k Deathwing Companions, who are a bodyguard unit. My guess is that Inner Circle Companions is not an in-universe name. It’s just they showed up and are keeping Inner Circle members company. Until proven otherwise, my head canon is they’re Risen who are keeping an eye on the Inner Circle and reporting back to the Lion.