Adeptus Custodes Shield-Captain + Battleforce + Codex

[Matrindur]

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

From the rumors the Combat Patrol will be a choice of two units and a leader from that box, not that entire box, which definitely feels more fair.

 

No need for a rumor here, they stated as much in the article:

 

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The patrol is led by a charging Blade Champion, who can assemble his force from five Custodian Guard and a choice between three Allarus Terminators or three Wardens – you’ll get all of the miniatures in the box, but they’re just too powerful to take the whole lot into a single game of Combat Patrol! 

 

[ThePenitentOne]

18 hours ago, Noserenda said:

Im mostly annoyed theyve cut the supply of cheap second hand Anathema again because their rrp is ridiculous.

Me too. I was only ever interested in SoS... but the old CP box had just enough boys that I could use them when I needed the points or had to fight a competitive army, but it still felt like I was buying SoS.

 

This box, though more competitive for a Custodes player, is utterly useless to me. That's okay though- I've had to really cut down my hobby dollars, so it was always going to be a while before I picked up the CP box; at least the new version will make most conventional players happier.

[jaxom]

At least we know SoS are getting a detachment.

[MegaVolt87]

Named characters in these boxes are a waste. Could of added a new Shield cpt in a termi suit instead. 

[DemonGSides]

Bladen Champion isn't named.  You can run 3.

Great value box.  Possibly the best value Combat Patrol box.

Edited April 9 by DemonGSides

[The Scorpion]

3 hours ago, jaxom said:

At least we know SoS are getting a detachment.

Please let them have the new models. They could really use it for both 30k and 40k

 

Custodes HQ are redundant, and lately kinda lame too. The new dude is so poorly proportionned that people speculated he might be Votann.

[MysticTemplar]

 

From here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQbmqA1ZosM&t=69s

 

Edited April 9 by MysticTemplar

[Styles]

So Trajann looks the same except hes lost his strike first ability from moment shackles and his captain general ability is clearer but nerfed as no longer effects other modifiers such as damage. 

The strike first once per game was probably his best ability, so a big nerf, but I can see why they did it. 

[sairence]

9 hours ago, jaxom said:

At least we know SoS are getting a detachment.

Man, I hope it's good. I have a whole army of them that I never got around to building and painting, because I never saw myself actually putting them in a game. 

[Tokugawa]

 

Edit: there are two SoS related detachments? and total number of detachments is only 4?

Edited April 9 by Tokugawa

[Remain_Indoors]

12 hours ago, The Scorpion said:

Please let them have the new models. They could really use it for both 30k and 40k

 

Custodes HQ are redundant, and lately kinda lame too. The new dude is so poorly proportionned that people speculated he might be Votann.

There are no new Sisters units in the codex.

 

4 minutes ago, Tokugawa said:

The SoS themed detachment went exactly the way I guessed. Players who dreaming a 100% SoS army could go to sleep, wake up at 11th edition and see what will happen.

 That’s not the Sisters detachment rule, it’s the Talons of the Emperor detachment rule. The Sisters focused detachment is the Null-Maidens Vigil.

Edited April 9 by Remain_Indoors

[Doobles57]

11 minutes ago, Tokugawa said:

The SoS themed detachment went exactly the way I guessed. Players who dreaming a 100% SoS army could go to sleep, wake up at 11th edition and see what will happen.

This is the Talon's of the Emperor detachment rules - the combined arms one. The SoS themed detachment appears to be called Null Maiden Vigil. I really think they need more units to be able to support a detachment on their own though so I'm not expecting much from it.

 

Are we assuming a Day 1 FAQ/Errata to bring the Null Aegis rule in line with the Shield Host detachment one. i.e. works against Dev Wounds not just mortals? I'd hope so, but I'm not confident in that at all. 

[Noserenda]

Yeah no detail on anything but the Talons detachment, weaksauce.

[DemonGSides]

24 minutes ago, Doobles57 said:

This is the Talon's of the Emperor detachment rules - the combined arms one. The SoS themed detachment appears to be called Null Maiden Vigil. I really think they need more units to be able to support a detachment on their own though so I'm not expecting much from it.

 

Are we assuming a Day 1 FAQ/Errata to bring the Null Aegis rule in line with the Shield Host detachment one. i.e. works against Dev Wounds not just mortals? I'd hope so, but I'm not confident in that at all. 

 

I don't think so.  The flavor is for the psychic null to be helping out, which means nothing for Dev Wounds.  I get the want for it to be Shield Host, but I think that's not what they are intending.

 

And not for nothing, it sure sounds like Shield Host is no longer going to be "Here's extra saves against devs and mortals". It's kind of a bummer they didn't just create a brand new name and detachment and let us continue using Shield Host and then give us 4 BRAND new detachments instead of 3 (2 of which are almost guaranteed to be meh since they focus on the weakest part of the faction) and a re-do. 

[Borbarad]

If the Shield Host detachment remains a 4+++ against mortals / dev. wounds, I don’t see how that revered companions one can compete unless it has stellar enhancements and/or strategems 

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

Dunno how likely its to remain with a 4+++, but it could also just be warcom hyperbole

 

[The Scorpion]

1 hour ago, Remain_Indoors said:

There are no new Sisters units in the codex.

 

 

Aaah, GeeDubs and it's infinite wisdom. Name a more iconic duo.

[Doobles57]

1 minute ago, The Scorpion said:

Aaah, GeeDubs and it's infinite wisdom. Name a more iconic duo.

I'd take getting rules for the Kharon in 40k. Half the codex gets to use their Forgeworld goodies, why not the sisters?

[ThePenitentOne]

4 hours ago, Doobles57 said:

I'd take getting rules for the Kharon in 40k. Half the codex gets to use their Forgeworld goodies, why not the sisters?

Amen brother!

 

Edit: Heck, I'd even take a Legends version of 40k rules for it.

Edited April 9 by ThePenitentOne

[tzeentch9]

Slightly annoyed that custodes get as many detachments as tau. Three would have seemed a stretch

[01RTB01]

9 hours ago, The Scorpion said:

Aaah, GeeDubs and it's infinite wisdom. Name a more iconic duo.

Ghazghkul and Makari... :p

[Doobles57]

Battle Report went up on WH+ today with the new Shield Host detachment rule. It's.....well take a look.

 

 

No more 4+++ of any sort.

 

I do love the "The Custodians have perfected countless ways of making war,..." ---> "Once per battle"

[jaxom]

13 minutes ago, Doobles57 said:

Battle Report went up on WH+ today with the new Shield Host detachment rule. It's.....well take a look.

 

 

No more 4+++ of any sort.

 

I do love the "The Custodians have perfected countless ways of making war,..." ---> "Once per battle"

Huh, so they really do parallel the Orks; what with having a Waaagh turn now. It could be very nice with the offensive Stances, but it doesn't feel good. I'd rather it just be Stances Critical Hit on a 5+ all the time.

[DemonGSides]

They also lost a stance. No more -1 to hit Katah. 

 

Kinda sucks, NGL. 

[The Scorpion]

14 hours ago, tzeentch9 said:

Slightly annoyed that custodes get as many detachments as tau. Three would have seemed a stretch

The custodes:cuss: is honestly out of control. Imho the Allarus terminators and Vertus Praetors should've never existed. Terminators and Jetbikes should've been ported from Forge World. Now we have Emperor knows how many HQ options while the sisters are left with none!