Machine God Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 10 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: I'm going to intervene now in order to keep things running smoothly - my advice would be to take the hit, burn your Infamy, and then (with GM Permission) and lying on the floor, tell Hagga everything he wants to know. That's the only way forward now with the same Character. Thank you. I will do that. Infamy Burn: https://orokos.com/roll/1071044 Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and Lysimachus 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Good Gods. I spend a day TO'ing a small casual tournament and then the next morning lazing about and the casually check the Nook to see what's going on. Bloody Khornates! Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham, Iron Father Ferrum and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Ok, I'm home and I'm going to bed! But suffice to say that Hagga will prefer to let bygones be bygones, as long as Kraggan is straight with him. I'll try to get some fluff added to the fight posts in the morning, and then some questions for Kraggan to answer. Machine God and BadgersinHills 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 Alright Deadmen, fun's over. That's a wrap for now. We'll let our two Crunchy Nut Khorney Flakes buff up their posts at their leisure. If you've got any ACQ's to consider, do so with the view to the Bounty assault. Players who do not wish to use Orokos any more, are not required to do so. Business as usual, and my compliments to our Players for their rugged, nadger-splicing, Big Boy Trousers. Well done gentlemen. Lysimachus, Machine God, Iron Father Ferrum and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabiusV4lcoran Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Hey so I get lost on 'a wrap' becuase I keep seeing other posts. Does that mean don't write anything that involves someone else, but a scene of insane gibbering is okay if one is so inclined? Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Provided that Kraggan does out himself as a traitor to our cause, might I suggest that we fit him with an explosive collar (reinforced against his tech-y nature) or something similar @Machine God? I struggle to see many scenarios where we'd let him off the hook, and playing as a slave making nutrient gruel probably wouldn't be fun for you Necronaut, Lysimachus and Machine God 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) Ok, added some fluff to the crunchy stuff, and also took the liberty of hiding some of the OOC posts that broke the flow, but they're still there if we need them. I'd just like to say kudos to MG for taking part and not backing out, Khorne approves! (And although it ended up being on the brief side, I was definitely worried going into it! While Hagga probably had an advantage in most respects, the gap wasn't so big that a few bad rolls couldn't have made the result go completely the other way!) @Mojake I think that's probably realistic, depending on what Kraggan reveals he's been up to. (I've got suspicions, but it will be good to know for sure) Might need his OOC agreement re making him wear a collar, or GM approval at very least? Edited April 14 by Lysimachus Mojake and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7sezizt9_s I searched my notes for the details of Kraggan's character creation. Eventually I found them yellowed with age and at the bottom of the page it said - Wounds: 17. With reference to the 8 wounds on his character sheet, I can only put that to old damage and shoddy sheet husbandry. He should have been on full health due to his Black Blood. Great combat. Now to edit in some fluff. Lysimachus and Mojake 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 47 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Ok, added some fluff to the crunchy stuff, and also took the liberty of hiding some of the OOC posts that broke the flow, but they're still there if we need them. I'd just like to say kudos to MG for taking part and not backing out, Khorne approves! (And although it ended up being on the brief side, I was definitely worried going into it! While Hagga probably had an advantage in most respects, the gap wasn't so big that a few bad rolls couldn't have made the result go completely the other way!) @Mojake I think that's probably realistic, depending on what Kraggan reveals he's been up to. (I've got suspicions, but it will be good to know for sure) Might need his OOC agreement re making him wear a collar, or GM approval at very least? @Lysimachus - Thank you for the edits and hiding the OOC bits that only you can as Moderati. With reference to Explosive Collars that is the only good thing about gaining the Headless mutation. Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham and Mojake 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Machine God said: I searched my notes for the details of Kraggan's character creation. Eventually I found them yellowed with age and at the bottom of the page it said - Wounds: 17. With reference to the 8 wounds on his character sheet, I can only put that to old damage and shoddy sheet husbandry. He should have been on full health due to his Black Blood. That's good news, would have been -17 regular Wounds and -8 Crit. So leg still lost, but definitely not dead dead. I'm assuming we're still calling it finished where we did? (Please say yes! ) Between potentially being Stunned, taking multiple levels of Fatigue, Blood Loss (admittedly got Die Hard for that one) and inability to move or Dodge, I think it would soon have been over anyway? Edit: side point @Mazer Rackham looking at pg289 Services to Chaos, does taking part in the duel earn Hagga any Infamy or give him any extra Corruption? Edited April 14 by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 10 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: That's good news, would have been -17 regular Wounds and -8 Crit. So leg still lost, but definitely not dead dead. I'm assuming we're still calling it finished where we did? (Please say yes! ) Between potentially being Stunned, taking multiple levels of Fatigue, Blood Loss (admittedly got Die Hard for that one) and inability to move or Dodge, I think it would soon have been over anyway? @Lysimachus - Yes. The fight outcome is set in stone. I'm just trying to work out what to do with the confession and save Kraggan's head. He's certainly not Crux'as after all. Either from Hagga's sword or Ukalegon's Melta Pistol. "Tis but a scratch!" Talent; Die Hard. Please can you hide this post. It is too OOC for the thread. Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: I'm assuming we're still calling it finished where we did? (Please say yes! ) @FabiusV4lcoran this is what I mean when I say things are a wrap - the combat is over, no more beating, that's it. GM has intervened and ruled on outcome. No further action is to be taken in the combat. The matter, apart from confessions and shouting, is closed. However, all other Players may make observations, posts, screaming hysteria, passes at my ex-wives, and pay me rent. 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: Edit: side point @Mazer Rackham looking at pg289 Services to Chaos, does taking part in the duel earn Hagga any Infamy or give him any extra Corruption? Oh, yes. Most definitely...D5 of each: Infamy: 3 Corruption: 4 Kraggan also gets some (D5 each) for taking on a big meanie: Infamy: 3 Corruption: 1 Complaints can be made to the correct department. Fill in that form under the large and precariously balanced rock over there... Machine God, Lysimachus, Necronaut and 1 other 2 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Post edited: https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383296-bc-the-blackest-heart-part-ii-ic/page/65/#findComment-6166278 Iron Father Ferrum, Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Unfortunately the details of the Spying were via PM from @Mazer Rackham and back. Unfortunately both party's have deleted the Message. So I shall have to have a long trawl from the 6th of October. If my fellow Frater would bear with me, I promise not to make them wait too long for an IC reply. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) I do have another question, but might be easier to ask it here. Was the revealed spoiler from @Mazer Rackham Kraggan's first interaction with the AL, or did Kraggan approach them prior to that? Edit: to clarify, I'm not asking whether it was Mazer or MG's idea to bring the AL into the story. I'm just asking was Kraggan already an AL asset before any of the PCs met, or was his induction initiated in the post above? Edited April 14 by Lysimachus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Machine God said: Unfortunately the details of the Spying were via PM from @Mazer Rackham and back. Unfortunately both party's have deleted the Message. So I shall have to have a long trawl from the 6th of October. It doesn't matter, I know how it ends. 58 minutes ago, Machine God said: If my fellow Frater would bear with me, I promise not to make them wait too long for an IC reply. No need for that, I'll clear up some stuff with the game being up. 12 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: I do have another question, but might be easier to ask it here. Was the revealed spoiler from @Mazer Rackham Kraggan's first interaction with the AL, or did Kraggan approach them prior to that? When Kraggan met Valex, he said 'Hydra Dominatus' Valex said; 'You had me at hello.' I'll clear up some stuff once I have read the thread, I'm up to my eyeballs. Edited April 14 by Mazer Rackham Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) Ah, looked back through and found that. So Kraggan uses the HD expression to describe the AL (but he's using it openly so not already one of their agents?)... and Valex decides to use him? (possibly as payback for him openly saying stuff that he shouldn't be aware of?) So, was he basically forced / overwritten by the code? I'm just trying to think of IC justifications for why we might let him live? Edited April 14 by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: If you've got any ACQ's to consider, do so with the view to the Bounty assault Will take a shot at the scrapcode generator components as/when/if it narratively fits with Kraggens recent admissions, probably with an eye to building it into a utility mechadendrite at some point. 2 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: I'm just trying to think of IC justifications for why we might let him live? Because he would make an invaluable test subject? Edited April 14 by A.T. Necronaut, Machine God, Lysimachus and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Ah, looked back through and found that. So Kraggan uses the HD expression to describe the AL (but he's using it openly so not already one of their agents)... and Valex decides to use him? (possibly as payback for him openly saying stuff) Valex: 'This one has ideas above his station' 5 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: So, was he basically forced / overwritten by the code? There is no AL code. It was risk vs reward. He was promised things... However, he might be carrying some interesting Necron pixel art after interacting with that station computer. 5 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: I'm just trying to think of IC justifications for why we might let him live? You boys need to percolate on that one. Edited April 14 by Mazer Rackham Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, Mazer Rackham said: Valex: 'This one has ideas above his station' Ok, yep, see the logic. Just now, Mazer Rackham said: There is no code. It was risk vs reward. He was promised things... Ok, that makes the next bit: Just now, Mazer Rackham said: You boys need to percolate on that one. ...tricky. If he wasn't forced in any way, he made a conscious choice to betray the team, and that makes it much harder to justify keeping him* alive (as anything more than Xerxes' test subject, that is) *Kraggan, I mean, not MG. Treachery and betrayal is part of the game, so no judgement on him for choosing to play it that way - in fact, it's been a fun subplot! BadgersinHills, Xin Ceithan and Mojake 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: ...in fact, it's been a fun subplot! Jolly good. Edited April 14 by Mazer Rackham Machine God, Necronaut, Lysimachus and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Excellent point, of course, the AL situation is not at all resolved, only Kraggan's role in it. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: ...of course.... Edited April 14 by Mazer Rackham Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 @Lysimachus Kraggan's value proposition for being kept alive is he is going to be our spy from now on (and/or Hagga's servant) if he wants to keep his blood and internal organs inside of himself. He will now inform upon Valex and his crew on our behalf and feed them false reports. Ideally we would use him to lure Valex's warband into a trap whereby we could wipe them out and steal their gear, or perhaps broker a treaty with them (I prefer the first option). Machine God, Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 19 minutes ago, Necronaut said: and/or Hagga's servant Hagga isn't really the servant-keeping type, but the rest I fully agree with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/132/#findComment-6166475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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