Valrak 2026 release rumours video

[Nephaston]

They could, hypothetically also just make it a different pattern as well. Be cheeky and call it Phobos Pattern. or make i8t a bit outlandish and call it Ryza Pattern. A real angular and call it Lucius Pattern.

[Mogger351]

46 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

I seriously doubt they will do that. They had the chance to make all the Deimos vehicles bigger but they didn't. They also had the chance to make the Sisters Rhino chassis bigger too. Not everything new has to be 1.5 size. 

30k rhinos dont have to fit primaris and want that sweet nostalgia cash. HH marines are slightly smaller and the deimos fits the scale in people's heads.

 

Sisters are smaller than primaris, chaos rhinos arguably could be dual role with a new loyalist one.

 

The biggest complaint of the Rhino is "10 marines can't fit in it". It's perfect timing for a bigger one.

[Ming the Merciless]

Rhino is Marines, update always welcome, plus other factions use it.

[Marshal Loss]

Pretty cool wave of rumours.

 

I'm really excited to see the tracked vehicles redone. The old kits are classics but larger versions with modern casting quality would be awesome, and from a traitor perspective would almost certainly result in new chaos equivalents shortly afterwards. If we get lucky, they might use it as an opportunity to add in some previously omitted tracked vehicles to the EC codex as they did with the Defiler (or even give us sonic upgrades). Personally I'm not fussed if they're bigger than the 30k pattern vehicles, it would look better with 40k's larger sculpts. 

 

It will be great to see Vect return. I hope Dark Eldar get a phenomenal release wave, they really deserve it. I suspect they'll offer a lot of cool components for use in my EC as well. 

 

On the Tau, personally I'd hope they go back to the OG Broadside design. As a long-time DOW player it feels iconic to me and I never liked the redone version with them holding their gun. I'd also never buy them so my opinion on this matter isn't particularly valuable, but I'd like them to look nicer when they die on the tabletop. 

[Tawnis]

8 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said:

On the Tau, personally I'd hope they go back to the OG Broadside design. As a long-time DOW player it feels iconic to me and I never liked the redone version with them holding their gun. I'd also never buy them so my opinion on this matter isn't particularly valuable, but I'd like them to look nicer when they die on the tabletop. 

I do play Tau, and there's a reason that I don't own any Broadsides. 

 

I'm looking forward to what they're going to do with the kit. 

[mecanojavi99]

The Impulsor is the Razorback's replacement, not the Rhino, so I really don't see the issue with getting a new updated Rhino.

 

I don't see Predators being wrought back for Loyalists for the simple reason that the Gladiator is a direct replacement and was advertised as such and even for the Heretics I would prefer bespoke MBT to them, like a Predator with sonic weaponry for EC or a warplamer one for TS.

 

 

Edited April 17 by mecanojavi99

[Silvereyes]

Pretty great Tau news. Honestly, while things haven't been perfect, I think Tau has done very well over the last few years. New Farsight, Kroot refresh, Vespid Kill Team, Stealth Kill Team, that elemental Ethereal, the Twin Lance, and now this. For a Xenos faction, it's nice that the moment, it feels like GW is willing to put in the time to give us proper support.

 

I will say, I've only been in the hobby for just over 3 years, so to me the current Broadside and Crisis Suits are all I really know. I actually really like the Broadside, love how bulky it is, and the implication that it is so ungodly slow is because of the sheer size of its gun/missile launchers. Crisis Suits, they definetly are beginning to feel their age. Partly because they look older compared to other suits, even the ones that are a few years old now like the Riptide and Ghostkeel. Also doesn't help that when you have Farsight leading a Crisis Suit team, and the difference between them is very noticable. Yeah, they don't need a refresh, certainly god knows how many other models need it more, but it is still appreciated.

 

In terms of speculation, considering the "minor refresh", I doubt it's going to be many models. The only one I will speculate is the Commander kit, because surely that would be done at the same time as the Crisis Suits? Even more so since it's a safe bet the Crisis Suits will have a bigger base, probably on par with the Commander base size, and it would look a bit weird having an old Commander lead a new bunch of suits. 

 

I think the Crisis Suit kit itself can go in a few ways, depending on what GW wants to do with it. I would love for it to be super customisable like it was in 9th, but the way 10th and 11th have been going, I sortof doubt that will happen. If they want to stick with the Fireknife/Sunforge/Starscythe, I'd actually want them to just take it all the way, and just make 3 seperate kits for each one, make them actually distinct from one another in look and design and weapons etc. 

 

I will say, if it was up to me, I would of preferred a Kroot second wave or more auxillary. Kroot are in a bit of a weird spot right now where they have enough units to be a sub-faction, but they have no anti-vehicle/anti-monster, and no vehicles/monsters in their ranks. A sub-faction, but one that does still require mainline Tau tanks or suits to properly supplement them. But hey, maybe it could happen in 12th edition.

 

Also, I am glad Tau are getting a new codex so soon. The fact the Tau army rule had such an overhaul feels like a bit of admission of how much of a failure it was. And combined with the new stuff in 11th, like that 15" hidden rule, and cover now giving -1 BS, Tau will probably need an update to thrive in the new edition.

 

So yeah, I'm optimistic. Hopefully not too long until GW announces the codex timeline. Trying to Google when they released the first codex roadmap for 10th, but can't seem to find it.

[Tymell]

9 hours ago, Burni said:

Unlike most I'd guess, I hate the current broadside suit and much prefer the original. So am keen to see a redesign, even though both Crisis and Broadside kits are completely modern kits and don't need an update strictly speaking.

 

Same. In particular I can't stand the current setup with the railgun in a "held at the hip rifle" pose, I much prefer the original style.

 

And while I do welcome a new Crisis kit in general, I worry about them doing away with a lot of the posability in favour of "dynamic but fixed" poses. Weapon loadout options are also something I always fear for these days, but given that those options still exist (albeit on different unit types of Crisis suits), I would guess that's less likely to be done away with unless they make separate kits for those types.

Edited April 17 by Tymell

[Marshal Rohr]

I hope they realized their mistake with broadsides and go back to shoulders or dual arm railguns. Much cooler. They seemed to have learned their lesson with marines if the rhino is coming back. Vindication is truly bitter sweet. 

[Silvereyes]

Actually, thinking about it, throwing more speculation on: the Devilfish will turn 25 years old this year, with the T'au themselves. Not sure how likely that is, it does seem like GW is willing to sit on vehicles a bit longer than other minis. (Although, fun fact, the current Space Marine Rhino is from 2002, so would be rather funny if that got updated and the Devilfish didn't.) Is there many models still from the '90s left to be adapted? I know some of the Eldar stuff that got updated was that old.

 

Also, yeah, maybe a new T'au HQ will happen. Some possibilities there. I doubt they would bring back Aun'Va or Anghkor Prok since they're both dead. Aun'shi could maybe return, or another named Ethereal? Kroot could either use a new named character, or a Krootox HQ. I do think the Sniper Drone Team is getting discontinued when the codex arrives, it's the only finecase model left in the whole range. And I struggle to imagine doing a drone heavy model like him again. I think I'd best he'd get a spiritual successor, a more typical sniper.

 

As an aside, this discussion made Google a wiki page that lists the dates of all the Tau minitures. I knew most of these models existed, but I wasn't aware of the full timeline. Didn't even realise that the Riptide was from 2013, or that the Ghostkeel was the same year as the current Crisis Suits in 2015. Those models have aged like wine, and a massive hill for GW to climb if in the future they ever decide to refresh them.

[Evil Eye]

13 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

- Vect is coming back (no exposed breast slaves)

It's trash. 

 

Jokes aside, I am dreading a new Crisis team. The current kit is perfectly good enough; they look like Crisis suits are meant to look like, and have a bunch of cool build options. A new one will be monopose and lose almost all their customization.

[mel_danes]

On Tau

With the weapons load outs being prescribed for crisis suits, do we think it might be a matter of getting the kit in line with this design philosophy?

We've seen them update a data sheet when a new version of an old kit comes out.

I much preferred when we could equip a team the way we wanted, and not be locked into specific combos.

[Lathe Biosas]

All I know is the new Crisis Suits will be wayyyy more expensive than they are right now.

[Mogger351]

8 hours ago, Silvereyes said:

I will say, I've only been in the hobby for just over 3 years, so to me the current Broadside and Crisis Suits are all I really know. I actually really like the Broadside, love how bulky it is, and the implication that it is so ungodly slow is because of the sheer size of its gun/missile launchers. Crisis Suits, they definetly are beginning to feel their age. Partly because they look older compared to other suits, even the ones that are a few years old now like the Riptide and Ghostkeel. Also doesn't help that when you have Farsight leading a Crisis Suit team, and the difference between them is very noticable. Yeah, they don't need a refresh, certainly god knows how many other models need it more, but it is still appreciated.

Tau are historically a reasonably well supported faction. The current crisis suits are also newer than the broadsides and Riptide by a year or two. The commander, ghostkeel and stormsurge are the same age as the crisis suits give or take a few months.

 

By 40k standards they're a decade old now, so not ancient by any stretch.

 

I think we'll see a flattening of the unit entries as the current 3 loadouts exist to work around the lack of points and having too many guns to balance. Simplest answer is the accursed weapons route and make a generic profile or two you can model as you please.

 

I don't know how much they can or will change the aesthetics though, the crisis suits are the tau space marine in terms of imagery.

Edited April 18 by Mogger351

[Blissful Brushes]

I think that scale has long been an issue with SM tanks, even pre primaris. I get the whole it’s representative of a transport, not a 1:26 replica from an airfix seller but it’s always been a bit of an immersion breaker for me that the scale is so off.

 

New tracked transports that are around the floaty tank size would be really appreciated I think and would be a big win for the range. In my personal collection I use Sicarans as MBT and my head-canon is that Predators are more like scimitars etc playing the light tank role, where they don’t actually need to be massive.

 

I think it actually makes some kind of sense that the biggest vehicles would be transports as they need to have storage capacity for 10 tons of armoured bodies + crew, whereas a tank needs crew + weapon systems + ammo capacity and 10 tons equivalent of ammo is probably enough SABOT to solo a tank division 

[Alby the Slayer]

Valrak: "The Tau are going to get a bunch of new suits. And we already started to see that with the Twin Lances . I'll put the image on the background"

Me: 

[Gorgoff]

18 minutes ago, Blissful Brushes said:

I think that scale has long been an issue with SM tanks, even pre primaris. I get the whole it’s representative of a transport, not a 1:26 replica from an airfix seller but it’s always been a bit of an immersion breaker for me that the scale is so off.

 

That's why mine are printed 10% bigger. 

Problem solved.

[TrevorLoLz]

19 hours ago, Bradeh said:

I assume it's still the 3 year codex cycle, they really need a better solution to that. 

 

A new Rhino when the Impulsor exists is a little odd too, they really need to choose a direction with the Primaris/Firstborn/Hybird design choices and stick with it. You had Phobos, then they reintroduced Scouts. Then Gravis and they reintroduced Terminators, now potentially back to Rhino after Impulsor. New Land Speeder after Storm Speeder too. It's very messy. 

Too many Space Marine players, including a lot with the old generation of models who hang on to them for nostalgia reasons.

 

I agree - stick with the new design choice and leave the older tracked vehicles to Chaos Space Marines. It creates a starker contrast between the two, with Space Marines being more advanced and specialist, while Chaos Space Marines have older technology that they supplement with daemons, mutations and cultists.

[Silvereyes]

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Tau are historically a reasonably well supported faction.

 

I suppose so. I'm just grateful they continue to get support. Compared to half the factions in 40K right now, I think we're in a good spot.

 

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

 

I think we'll see a flattening of the unit entries as the current 3 loadouts exist to work around the lack of points and having too many guns to balance. Simplest answer is the accursed weapons route and make a generic profile or two you can model as you please.

 

Sadly, I think you might be right. Which considering how iconic the Crisis Suits are would be a damn shame.

 

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

I don't know how much they can or will change the aesthetics though, the crisis suits are the tau space marine in terms of imagery.

 

Well, if I was right and they made 3 kits for the 3 datasheets, they could have 1 of them just be the classic Crisis Suit design, and the other 2 just be spins on it. At the very least, I'm optimistic about the look of it, the Tau model range has been all winners for the last few years.

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

I think we'll see a flattening of the unit entries as the current 3 loadouts exist to work around the lack of points and having too many guns to balance. Simplest answer is the accursed weapons route and make a generic profile or two you can model as you please.

 

It is a tough call. Crisis Suits have always been the swiss army knife of the Tau army but that philosophy just doesn't really work with fixed price units. I think we will continue to see different loadouts for the Crisis Suit as different data sheets, otherwise the rule of 2/3 will really make it hard to run suit-heavy lists.

[Wolf Guard Dan]

23 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

 (no exposed breast slaves) - has xenos mercs on the boat

Well we will just see about that. Those Xenos mercs are in for a surprise with my skills with green stuff! Tradition must be followed. 
 

All kidding aside, Vect would be a slam dunk. I don’t think the plastic range needs a refresh for them. Dark Eldar just need to get plastic kits of what was taken away- beast packs, court of archon, grotesques, etc. 

[Northern Walker]

16 hours ago, mecanojavi99 said:

The Impulsor is the Razorback's replacement, not the Rhino, so I really don't see the issue with getting a new updated Rhino.

 

I don't see Predators being wrought back for Loyalists for the simple reason that the Gladiator is a direct replacement and was advertised as such and even for the Heretics I would prefer bespoke MBT to them, like a Predator with sonic weaponry for EC or a warplamer one for TS.

 

 

The Impulsor is not the razorback's replacement at all, other than having the same transport capacity - one is rapid transit and the other is a transport with heavy weapon support.

[Interrogator Stobz]

Vect sure would be nice.

What I would give to have new Wyches, the current ape poses are so awful they make my eyes bleed. And not in a good way.

 

The Voidscarred Kill Team are delicious and classy, and set the standard that other Eldar should be held to..

[soviet1337]

I get it with updating the crisis suits. I love the old ones and have six of them painted up (no, the old, old ones) but part of that is nostalgia. The boxiness doesn't quite fit the rest of the line.

 

But the broadsides? The current version of that kit is great!  I have two missile ones painted and am tempted to get a pair of railgunners too. Making MORE of these broadsides, with either an upgrade sprue or a whole ass second kit to have different weapons and big shields, hell yeah. But replacing them seems bonkers to me.  

[HeadlessCross]

19 hours ago, MoriyaSchism said:

I seriously doubt they will do that. They had the chance to make all the Deimos vehicles bigger but they didn't. They also had the chance to make the Sisters Rhino chassis bigger too. Not everything new has to be 1.5 size. 

 

 

That is simply not true. When the new Calgar model came out they said they turned his Terminator armour into his Gravis suit. It was all over the promotional material and in the 8th edition Ultramarines supplement. If that's not a sign that Gravis was originally meant to replace Terminators than I don't know what is. I really hate repeating myself. 

 

They're completely different stat lines with the units doing completely different things. No, it was never going to be a replacement, it was just about being patient for GW to release a Terminator kit where the proportions weren't comical.