Valrak 2026 release rumours video

[Orange Knight]

Valrak has a new video about units going to legends:

 

 

 

 

Units that will be going to Legends:

Tactical Marines

Devastator Marines

Razorback

Suppressors

Outrider ATV

Firestrike Servo Turret



Some of these make sense to me, but others not so much. I can't believe that the Firestrike Servo Turret is going to Legends, but the Hammerfall Bunker will remain in the game?

Suppressors make sense, they were never released as a standalone kit. The ATV is a bit weird to me as it's perfectly usable and the model is ok.

[Orion]

It'll be interesting when the chopping block eventually comes what units get phased out.

 

Like has anyone bought Reivers lately?

I'm sure someone can say otherwise, but at face value, thematically they seem like they were a failed replacement for scouts.

 

As for the tanks the impulsor has actually grown on me significantly.
Probably the only turnaround on any of the primaris units for me personally. Open top models are fun.

The Repulsor still looks bad. Too many stupid guns. Looks like it was designed by a child.

[ZeroWolf]

Just now, Orange Knight said:

Valrak has a new video about units going to legends:

 

 

 

 

Units that will be going to Legends:

Tactical Marines

Devastator Marines

Razorback

Suppressors

Outrider ATV

Firestrike Servo Turret



Some of these make sense to me, but others not so much. I can't believe that the Firestrike Servo Turret is going to Legends, but the Hammerfall Bunker will remain in the game?

Suppressors make sense, they were never released as a standalone kit. The ATV is a bit weird to me as it's perfectly usable and the model is ok.

Guess that means were losing the special rules for the outriders to form a group with the ATV, a shame as it was fun. Hmm, could we be getting a new take on the attack bike then, maybe made out of a potential multipart outrider kit? (Probably not but would be nice)

 

Suppressors aren't a big surprise, haven't even painted the ones that I got way back from Imperium magazine. The turret...yeah I can see that, it never had a defined role that wasn't handled better else where.

[mecanojavi99]

Seeing Devastators and specially Tacticals being legended feels like the end of an era doesn't it? If the Razorback is also gone then that leaves some vehicles here and there but infantry wise that would only leave Centurions of all things.

 

The turret IMO failed by being a direct fire unit trying to replace the Thunderfire canon instead of a replacement for the Whirlwind based on the Impulsor chassis, that's the artillery SM needed updated.

 

The ATV is a weird one, as others have said it would remove the point of the Outriders being able to take one with them like an old Attack Bike, so we'll see what happens there, maybe it gets a replacement down the line?

 

Suppressors were a weird unit from their introduction, a heavy weapon unit that was meant to move around but lacked any rules to counteract the movement penalty to heavy weapons, honestly if it were up to me I would just baked them into Inceptors.

Edited April 20 by mecanojavi99

[irlLordy]

ATVs are a bit of a surprise, if they're going to legends based on looks, desolation squad ahould be there alongside them! I liked them as you could have a standard squad size of 5 with three outriders and an atv and let bikes fit into the org chart a bit better.

 

Suppressors are sadly not a surprise. I had mine painted up for the phobos combat patrol, they were fun, but if they didn't have an individual release, they were kinda screwed. We might see judiciar go next edition if it doesn't get a stand alone release at some point.

 

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Legending recent releases would be very worrying.

[Jukkiz]

Devastators and Tacticals are gonna sting, such a great kits those. Firestrike turret was nifty idea, looks lovely. Suppressors never got standalone kit and are still tied to that huge box set which no one ever got really. Their only good thing was making unit they shot at, lose overwatch

[Robbienw]

ATV has got to be because its such a terrible model.  Likely there will be proper attack bike, that looks similar to outrider bikes, that will take its role.

 

Surprised some of the odd looking early 8th edition releases like Reivers and Aggressors aren't getting canned, but maybe they are planning to replace them with new updated versions in the near future.

[irlLordy]

To be fair, reivers look pretty cool, the issues with them have always been rules based, not looks. They're quite effective in kill team which I'm sure got them some sales.

[Kyari]

Feels like the writing is on the wall for a lot of early Primaris stuff too after how they dealt with Stormcast Eternals this edition. Its a similar time period.

[Crimson Longinus]

7 minutes ago, irlLordy said:

To be fair, reivers look pretty cool, the issues with them have always been rules based, not looks. They're quite effective in kill team which I'm sure got them some sales.

 

With all the patches the Reivers finally are usable. And they are one of the coolest looking marine units, so I really, really hope they'll stay. It still bugs me that the sergeant cannot have a better melee weapon though. It is annoying that the intercessor sarge has better melee weapons than a sarge of a dedicated melee unit. 

[ThaneOfTas]

47 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

Units that will be going to Legends:

Tactical Marines

Devastator Marines

Razorback

Suppressors

Outrider ATV

Firestrike Servo Turret

Tactical and Devastator aren't remotely surprising, still rough though, especially since the difference in value with the newer kits in terms of bits is just so grim.

 

Razorback but not rhino is kind of interesting. I feel like this does actually support the idea that we are getting a new Rhino kit perhaps? As currently the rhino kit is also the Razorback kit last I checked.

 

Suppressors I'm glad to see go. They're garbage looking, a textbook example of unit bloat and have never had a real kit. Plus there's a not insignificant part of me that is happy to see some primaris kits go after so many firstborn. I'll be curious to see if the retoric around units going to legends shifts at all now that much newer kits are going.

 

I confess I'm surprised by the ATV. It's a butt ugly kit but it's also standalone and perfectly serviceable, so I didn't expect it to go this soon. This will be only around 5 years won't it? That's got to be a record if true doesn't it? I do think that it may be a sign that an updated Outrider kit with an attack bike may be in the works.

 

Firestrike is definitely surprising. I personally never loved having a tech marine be wasted operating a nearly stationary turret from a conceptual level, but it's kinda strange that it's going but the bunk isn't.

 

Actually the things that aren't listed in general is probably the most interesting talking point.

 

Rhino, Vindicator, Whirlwind and predators all apparently sticking around is an honestly very pleasant surprise. It would lend credence to the idea of a refresh of the tracked vehicles.

 

I'm genuinely shocked that the Judiciar isn't listed. As much as I love it in both model and concept, it's a prime candidate for being cut as things stand.

 

Also, tangent warning, but Hellblasters and Pyreblasters feel really ripe for a joint dual build single kit. There has to be a reason that they never bothered to give the Pyreblasters a multiparty kit.

[Orange Knight]

37 minutes ago, Kyari said:

Feels like the writing is on the wall for a lot of early Primaris stuff too after how they dealt with Stormcast Eternals this edition. Its a similar time period.

 

I think the range does need a clean up, but I would have gone down the route of unit consolidation before cutting away unique options like the Turret.

I think the fact that the Rhino remains but the Razorback is going indicated that we'll likely see a Rhino refresh, and that the model will probably be bigger. Something between the old Rhino chassic and a Landraider in size.

Edited April 20 by Orange Knight

[Subtleknife]

Tbh I would probably support a harsher cut back of the primaris range. Not because I don't like primaris, I actually like the new lore etc. I just think the way GW went about this transition has been very messy. 

 

There is a lot of overlap which I don't think needs to be there. I think there were certainly some areas where instead of making new units, rehashing old ones would be acceptable. Looking at the positive reception to terminators and sternguard received it would seem GW clocked this too.

[MoriyaSchism]

1 hour ago, Orange Knight said:

Valrak has a new video about units going to legends:

 

 

 

 

Units that will be going to Legends:

Tactical Marines

Devastator Marines

Razorback

Suppressors

Outrider ATV

Firestrike Servo Turret



Some of these make sense to me, but others not so much. I can't believe that the Firestrike Servo Turret is going to Legends, but the Hammerfall Bunker will remain in the game?

Suppressors make sense, they were never released as a standalone kit. The ATV is a bit weird to me as it's perfectly usable and the model is ok.

Are they going to just remove the Razorback sprue from the Rhino kit? I don't like this change. The turret going away is nonsense. RIP to the Tactical Squad and Devastator Squad. I guess daft looking special weapons and massed squads of bolter pigs are here to stay. I'm not going to be holding my breath for new multipart Intercessors.

[Mogger351]

Just now, MoriyaSchism said:

Are they going to just remove the Razorback sprue from the Rhino kit? I don't like this change. The turret going away is nonsense. RIP to the Tactical Squad and Devastator Squad. I guess daft looking special weapons and massed squads of bolter pigs are here to stay. I'm not going to be holding my breath for new multipart Intercessors.

I would suspect the Rhino and the razorback will both go and the Rhino makes a "triumphant return" 2 years in or something.

[01RTB01]

2 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

Emperor knows what GW intend.

Remember that there is a disconnect between the model designers, the lore writers and the warhammer community promotional staff. What we see on promotional material might not match the lore, and in turn both of those things might make assumptions that the model designer never intended.
 

 

Noise marines being a classic example. The designers of the minis talk about "long range support" in terms of their role and then the rules writers gave them an 18" range.

 

For the record, this isn't a grumble as I've no issues with noise marines. Simply an example to affirm what's being said. 

[Nephaston]

43 minutes ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Firestrike is definitely surprising. I personally never loved having a tech marine be wasted operating a nearly stationary turret from a conceptual level, but it's kinda strange that it's going but the bunk isn't.

Wouldn't that one be a Techmarine Neophyte like the one found on the repulsor kits? A Marine that basically graduated from mars, where he learned the secrets of the machine, returned to their chapter, and is in the process of learning the specifics of their chapters armoury. It would make sense in that regard that, while the guy is getting familiar he might as well be deployed using the thing.

 

I personally quite like the firestrike, means i'll need to grab another so the one I already have isn't so lonely. Maybe even a third one to convert into a bike techmarine...

 

Edit: also checked the store, Vanguard task force is specifically last chance to buy, unlike every other "temporarily out of stock" entry

Edited April 20 by Nephaston

[Orange Knight]

I also think Marines have a lot of random characters that could be consolidated or scaled back.

The 3 different Phobos Lieutenants should be consolidated into a single datasheet, for example.

If they really go down the path of sending some of these newer units to legends, I hope it's in service of making a more elegant and streamlined codex.

 

 

Edited April 20 by Orange Knight

[Karhedron]

1 minute ago, Orange Knight said:

If they really go down the path of sending some of these newer units to legends, I hope it's in service of making a more elegant and streamlined codex.

 

I admire your optimism brother but I will calibrate my expectations. 

 

I have to say that I am a bit surprised by the ATV and Firestrike going as they felt like successors to the Attack Bike and TF cannon respectively. The models are not amazing but I feel they were held back by mediocre rules rather than anything inherently wrong with them. Then again, both appeared at bargain prices in the Combat Patrol magazine so maybe GW is happy to cull them after flooding the market. 

[Brother Captain Vakarian]

47 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

I think the fact that the Rhino remains but the Razorback is going indicated that we'll likely see a Rhino refresh, and that the model will probably be bigger. Something between the old Rhino chassic and a Landraider in size.

Valrak said in the video that rumor is the Rhino is getting a new kit. No indication on size. But that would explain the Razorback disappearing (for now anyway). 

[phandaal]

Ah, the Monkey Paw! At long last, Suppressors get sent to the garbage can where they belong, but they claw Tactical Marines, Devastators, and Razorbacks into hell with them. Fitting that the worst miniatures in the history of miniatures (maybe ever) would cause this kind of desecration on the way out.

 

I do hope the removal of Tactical squads is just because the new Intercessors will morph into the modern incarnation of that unit. Removing the unit altogether, when it is quite literally the box that built Games Workshop, would be too much.

[mecanojavi99]

5 minutes ago, phandaal said:

Ah, the Monkey Paw! At long last, Suppressors get sent to the garbage can where they belong, but they claw Tactical Marines, Devastators, and Razorbacks into hell with them. Fitting that the worst miniatures in the history of miniatures (maybe ever) would cause this kind of desecration on the way out.

 

I do hope the removal of Tactical squads is just because the new Intercessors will morph into the modern incarnation of that unit. Removing the unit altogether, when it is quite literally the box that built Games Workshop, would be too much.

According to Valrak the updated intercessors are still a bolt rifle only unit, so no, they won't be the new Tacticals and that role will be gone once they get legended.

 

You can still do that with CSM tho, you just have to embrace Chaos.

[sitnam]

New Crisis suits really got my interest. The current kit looks decent but if they restyle them like the recent characters I'd be ecstatic.

 

Would be sad to see the Firestrike go. It fits my homebrew chapter perfectly and looks pretty good. Who am I kidding though, Im probably never going back to painting loyalists

[Tawnis]

The ATV is really going to sting, both my son and my best friend play White Scars and have 4 or 5 between the two of them. I can understand doing a redesign because the look it it was poorly received (by most, my son really likes them) but come on GW, there are 2 whole non character units in the game that are on bikes for White Scars and you're going to cut half of them?! At the very least, have a replacement unit ready to go at the same time. 

 

I honestly am a little sad about the Suppressors, the idea behind them was neat, slap a jump pack on a heavy unit for mobility to enable them to set up quickly, I thought with elevation being more relevant in 11th, they might actually see some play. Guess not. 

The Razorback really stings. I mean, I get it, but that was always my favourite of the old Rhino Chassis units.