Commissar Molotov Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 More Notes on the Third Company Team Leaders now added: Squad I (Tactical) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1854849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Just my notes and nit-picks; if I don't mention something it probably means I approve of it. :-> With regard to "Team Leaders", Codex Ultramrines seems to suggest that the leader of a Demi-Squad bears the title of "Squad Leader", rather than "Team Leader". I guess I associate "team" with the Imperial Guard. Ok I will edit it into squad leader, make sense; combat squad would require a combat squad leader. Team Leader is force of habit, sorry :sweat: . -> I'm not sure about the Revival - arbitrarily decimating planetary populations is incredibly harsh. I'm not sure; the Iron Hands were specifically noted as killing swathes of a rebellious population. I think you're perhaps going over the top there. I can't see the Castigators investing time culling defenceless civilians on planets that are still loyal - just lax. If it's at Inquisitorial insistence then possibly, but otherwise leave that to the Inquisition. I didnt mean for it to sound arbitrary but with purpose. The Adamark Campaing would be such a culling. I guess when I get to writing that it will explain the revival in better detail -> 899 is too early for the Splinter Fleet, which broke off Kraken in 992.M41. I am an idiot and dont pay attention... -> The "Thorn Pattern" upon Eclectus's helmet - you're talking about the Thorned Wreath, which is the Castigators' version of the laurel wreath. It's a specific honour badge within the Chapter. Yes, he would have earned the Castigators version of the Imperial Laurel. But instead of it being physically represented like the Emperors champion's helmet it is a design -> The power fist Tarandas bears - what's the significance of the name 'Osgod'?I found a suitable Latin name that sounded tough. -> I like Lux Videbis, but drop the line about 'unnatural' power.That is to hint it being a relic blade in smaller games -> Drop the "sentient machine spirit" - those don't exist in 40k. They are what the Adeptus Mechanicus would call "Abominable Intelligence." It's just a little too Halo-esque for me. Sirius doesn't need a Cortana! I was trying to explain his RoB, but Ill work on something better -> I like the shield. Yes! It is his wargear for small games - > My thought was that the focus on the sun was Sirius's personal prediliction. I'm not sure about there being a specific cloak for the Master of the Arsenal. I would have this be something he had made for him then based on his predilection -> The Iron Halo would not be passed from his predecessor - Sirius would have to earn such an honour himself. He doubtless has done. I wanted him to use the Iron Halo used by his predecessor after he earned the ability to bear one and his predecessor was, well dead. -> I personally don't like plasma weaponry that much, but I think it's a little trite to have the plasma pistol called 'Lightbringer'. If you're set on him having a plasma pistol, either give it a new name or don't give it a name. Ok Ill drop the name and come up with a suitable model designation -> It might be worth noting what Sirius has done to be awarded the Helm of Juneval. Something Heroic, again I may tie it to the Adamark campaign, because I want it to be some kind of focal point for his Captaincy. I'll be interested in reading the Adamark Campaign... hopefully it'll be interesting! Me too! Hopefully you, Ferrus, and Darth can give me a hand. In fact Ill take all the help I can get. I've also specified that the Fourth is the widest-ranged Company. The third wouldn't be "across the length and width of the segmentum" I think - above all their duties would be closer to home. The Imperium is a war-torn realm and with entrenched enclaves of Orks in the Delvis Rift, two nearby Craftworlds, Dark Eldar raids, planets in the grips of unrest and now an encroaching Hive Fleet, I think the third would be busy closer to home! Ok, well I am trying to think of a specific area of operations for the company so I can use it to drive some more battles and fluff. Maybe they are just deployed alot but stay close to home? Mol, has expressed desire to keep the Castigator fairly reclusive. Personally, I think they would have honor brothers with the Vocates but not one of the famous ones the Ultramarines or Blood Ravens or another Chapter of Legend (IMO it becomes a name drop)*. I agree that to have them working with other Chapters all the time would have them become something of a supporting cast instead of the stars which is kind of the point of a DIY, to forge your own destiny. I figure that the crown of thorns on the helmet was for something Captain Juneval did, and Sirius inheirited it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1854881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Double Post :P I have something for everyone. I made it while I was watching TV. I had aot of fun making that, I think I will be doing these for all of my armies to give me a clear idea of the progression of my Crusades/Campaigns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1854985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'd be glad to help with the Adamark campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1855554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 kinghongkong, If you wish or are intrested, i could use a hand with the 2nd company "FireBrands". If Mol has no objections :D If intrested just PM me and i'll give you what i have. Ferrus, Caphius would see Tigris as unpure/tainted. Caphius would keep a close eye on Tigris on the battlefield. I don't think Caphius would see Tigris as unworthy of his rank, only that he is a weakness to the Castigators' pureity. Then again would Tigris openly tell his brothers of his failing or weakness? :) To be touched by a pysker is very dangerous in the Castigators eyes. We have red corsairs in the timeline? I don't remeber that. I'll have to re-read it. M2C, nice map!! Could you PM me with a unmapped (no planets on it) copy. I think i'll have it made as a campaign map (wall map). Maybe even flesh it out a little more, with Mol's permission and everyone's ideas. What program did you use to make it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1855594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I just typerd in nebula on google and found the one that was the 'howling-est'. It is a reaql nebula and when I have my other computer back I will look it up. I'd be glad to help with the Adamark campaign. Great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1855661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ok I will edit it into squad leader, make sense; combat squad would require a combat squad leader. Team Leader is force of habit, sorry :( . No problem. I didnt mean for it to sound arbitrary but with purpose. The Adamark Campaing would be such a culling. I guess when I get to writing that it will explain the revival in better detail I'm still incredibly dubious. If the circumstances warrant it, then possibly - otherwise I'm just a bit concerned about their actions. I am an idiot ^_^ and dont pay attention... As a note, the Second Tyrannic War was 992, but it wasn't until 994 that Sirius and Tigris engaged Hydra. Yes, he would have earned the Castigators version of the Imperial Laurel. But instead of it being physically represented like the Emperors champion's helmet it is a design Alright, so perhaps of saying "a laurel design" or the like you could just say that he was awarded the wreath of thorns. When I get round to re-working Insignium Castigator it's going to show that the wreath can be physical or simply a design on the armour. I found a suitable Latin name that sounded tough. Ah, okay. I didn't associate "Osgod" as a Latin name. That is to hint it being a relic blade in smaller games Well, I don't think you need to say it's "unnatural" - just that it's exceptionally well-crafted, etc. I was trying to explain his RoB, but Ill work on something better Rites of Battle could simply be down to his skill at a Captain, surely? Especially if you're using Sicarius rules and he's displaying his skill through seizing the initiative/imbuing his squad with skills. Also, whilst I think about it, the storm shield could represent Sicarius's 2+ save. Me too! Hopefully you, Ferrus, and Darth can give me a hand. In fact Ill take all the help I can get. Well, perhaps if you lay down the basics of what you have/what you intend, all of us can comment. Ok, well I am trying to think of a specific area of operations for the company so I can use it to drive some more battles and fluff. Maybe they are just deployed alot but stay close to home? Well, isn't that the purpose of the Howling Stars? To give us a specific area of operations for the Chapter? I think all Battle-Companies would be "deployed a lot" - they're the fighting arm of the Chapter! I have something for everyone. I made it while I was watching TV. It's interesting indeed! See my comments to Varen's post for full reaction. I'd be glad to help with the Adamark campaign. Glad to hear it! :yes: kinghongkong, If you wish or are intrested, i could use a hand with the 2nd company "FireBrands". If Mol has no objections :cuss If intrested just PM me and i'll give you what i have. Ferrus, Caphius would see Tigris as unpure/tainted. Caphius would keep a close eye on Tigris on the battlefield. I don't think Caphius would see Tigris as unworthy of his rank, only that he is a weakness to the Castigators' pureity. Then again would Tigris openly tell his brothers of his failing or weakness? ;) To be touched by a pysker is very dangerous in the Castigators eyes. We have red corsairs in the timeline? I don't remeber that. I'll have to re-read it. M2C, nice map!! Could you PM me with a unmapped (no planets on it) copy. I think i'll have it made as a campaign map (wall map). Maybe even flesh it out a little more, with Mol's permission and everyone's ideas. What program did you use to make it? - I think you need to be careful using impure and tainted. If Tigris is 'tainted'. then he has no right to be alive. I don't think you can see it both ways. I imagine the Apothecaries would have been incredibly meticulous but would've found nothing wrong with him, yet Caphius is still suspicious. - Corsairs are only currently mentioned in 901 when Lufgt Huron rebels. - You don't need my 'permission'. What I would say is that the map is your interpretation of the Howling Stars, and if it improves your experience of the Castigators, great. I'm not keen to map out the stars entirely - not yet at least - but you guys can feel free as long as you're not taking too many liberties! ;) It's possible new fluff might arise out of your experiments, so hopefully it'll be interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1855708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 These are M2C's notes, he was falling foul of the board's formatting so I've put them up for him. Ideas for the Adamark Campaign I. Imperial Forces Involved a. Castigators 1st Company1 Terminator Squad 2 Sternguard Squads 1 Vanguard Squads [*]b. Castigators 3rd Company Captain Sirius Chaplain Argentus Command Squad 6 Tactical Squads 2 Assault Squads 2 Devastator Squad Dreadnaught Godslayer [*]c. Castigators 8th Company Captain Tigris 10 Assault Squads [*]d. Castigators 10th Company 2 Scout Squads 1 Scout Biker Squad [*]a. Cadian Shock Troopers 4 Regiments2 Infantry Regiments 1 Armored Regiment 1 Airborne Regiment 3 Kasrkin Companies [*]b. Death Korps of Krieg 3 Regiments2 Siege Regiments 1 Armored Regiment [*]c. Stormtroopers 6 Companies [*]d. Lustran Rangers 7 Regiments1 Heavy Infantry Regiments 3 Infantry Regiments 1 Mechanized Infantry Regiment 1 Airborne Regiment 1 Armored Regiment II. Adamark System Rho-Phi 18 Lifeless Rock [*] Lumos Un-terraformed rock, heavy volcanic activity. [*] Xavier Habitable planet, heavy storm activity prevents colonization [*] Adamark Equatorial DesertLow Habitation [*]Temperate Northern Hemisphere Heavy habitation Main city, Adon [*]Tropical Southern Hemisphere Low habitation [*]Arctic Poles Uninhabited [*] 2 Orbital platforms link orbital defense grid over capital cites on the two main contients. [*] Tanis Iron ash wastes Arctic Poles Small sulfurous oceans. [*]Ylon Gas giant [*]Fos Gas giant [*]Alpha-19 PlanetoidHouses system fleet base III. Treason of Governor Marcellus a. The awakeningi. Governor had been soliciting Xenos (Kraytus, Tar’Ilyn, and Thracians) contact ii. Illegal trade with pirates and xenos iii. Imperial tithes requisitons for hidden projects and fund illegal and illicit trade with xenos iv. Philosophical revolution sweeps the planet1. All men are equal 2. Government should be duly appointed by the masses 3. Nations of the planet form a senate to seal their allegiance [*]b. The schism begins i. PDF is divided between loyal Imperial faction, and the faction who have been swept up in the ‘awakening’ ii. Main city of Adon is warned against impending invasion1. Population prepares for war 2. Production increases across the planet 3. Massive armies are raised seemingly overnight [*]iii. Citizenry is armed from the PDF armory [*]iv. Loyal PDF begins a crack down 1. Faces defeats at every turn [*]v. Riots begin, loyal PDF is driven from Adon and holes up in the mountains [*]vi. Arbites are massacred in a suicide bombings and xenos elite mercenary attacks [*]vii. Loyal PDF uses ancient contact protocols to call for aid [*]c. Secession i. Governor Marcellus declares Adamark independent1. Adamark secedes from the Imperium peacefully, allowing those not killed in the fighting to leave the planet and never to return [*]ii. The PDF withdraws leaving with the small loyal Imperial population [*]iii. Separatists formalize ties with xenos 1. Xenos found colonies in the system 2. Xenos begin to co-inhabit Adamark [*]iv. Separatists begin to prepare for the Imperial response, [*]v. Adamark sees prosperity like never before. [*]vi. Invention begins, new technologies created and discovered [*]vii. New war machines are designed [*]viii. Xenos prove not to be bloodthirsty and live peacefully alongside the humans until the populations integrate completly IV. Adamark Ascendenta. Takes two full centuries before the Imperium notices the lack of tithe coming from Adamark. b. Sends a small naval fleet to alert Adamark of the deficiency c. Fleet is intercepted by Adam naval vessels, and invited to see the planeti. Nothing is noticed out of the ordinary by the Imperials as it appears the Adam have just been out of contact ii. The Adam Quorum meet Cpt. Santiago of the Imperial Naval and Questor Tomas of the Adeptus Administratum. iii. The secession is explained and the Imperials are offered a chance to either ally with the Adam or to leave and never return [*]d. Cpt. Santiago and the Imperial Delegation rejoin their ships and immediately attempt to contact Fleet Command at Bakka. [*]e. Transmission is intercepted by a Thracian jamming relay that can read telepathic signals i. Adam fleet immediatly attacks the Imperial vessels, and the superior warships destroy the light Imperial Fleet utterly V. The Might of the Imperiuma. The Imperium musters an army capable of retaking Adamarki. The force is huge with over 14 guard regiments and a small Ordo Xenos Inquisitorial Contingent ii. The task force is placed under the command of Lord General Vanheim of Cadia [*]b. The Castigators 3rd Company arrives to support the Army [*]c. The Castigators force is made of units from the 1st, 3rd, 8th, and 10th companies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1855752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 In the first section you mean Caphius right? Not Sirius. Yes, sorry. Ferrus would you be interested in helping me with some fluff about a joint 3rd-8th Company assault on some non-chaos separatists? Darth Potato, I need your help on this one too. I've got some notes I'll PM you guys whenever you respond to this and we will talk over MSN. Sure, PM me anytime. As for Sirius being a 'former Deathwatch member' - so was Timon. Likely, so were members in Caphius's Company. Again, Quintilius is keen to promote ties with the Inquisition. (So actually, I suppose the Castigators - some at least - might get an experience of other Chapters after all. Then they'd come back and constantly complain about the Space Wolves.... ) I'd be wary of saying "they served in the Deathwatch, which makes them BFF!" - because many of the Castigators have. Most are concentrated in the Fourth, but Deathwatch members aren't exclusively Fourth Company. That's not what I meant. I can see what you mean when you say just because they've served in the DW wouldn't make them best buds. But it would promote a bond between them, and all who have been in the DW. There is a passage in Confessions, where Agemann says something like: "I know what you did during your time in the DW I did the same." To Uriel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1857660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Thing with Uriel Ventris is that from what I remember Graham McNeill wrote that there was a Big Secret™ that occurred during his first stint in the Deathwatch (I'm not talking about Tarsis Ultra there). I'm pretty sure it was hinted at during Warriors of Ultramar... I'll have to dig it out and check up on my suspicions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1857685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Ferrus, is there anything that you in particular would be interested in seeing your company do in the campaign. Mass-Tac airborne assault? Big Siege? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1857900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Would this campaign really entail the presence of the entire Eighth Company? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1858169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Probobaly just a fraction. I figured it would require a sizable fast attack element to deal with the Anti-Grav tech of the Adamark. I need to finish that bestiary! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1858180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Sure, but I'd save the details of the campaign for msn. Save clogging the thread. I've you can't catch me in the next few days. Just PM me your ideas. So Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1858702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Mol, i know you told me before, but what does the Castigator fleet consist of? I guess i'll have to get an MSN account to hear everything else that is going on, huh? Is that where you all meet? Mol, what is the percentage of Castigators that get seconded to the Deathwatch, by chapter and company? What do you have of the Insignium Castigator? I will be starting to model soon and need details to get them right. Need markings for veterans, sergeants, squad leaders, company markings, vehicle marking, and Deathwatch markings. How are they applied to the Castigators armour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1858722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Sure, but I'd save the details of the campaign for msn. Save clogging the thread. I've you can't catch me in the next few days. Just PM me your ideas. So Well, I don't mind them being in this thread - which is thirty-seven pages long and getting close to a thousand replies! Clogged is clogged. :tu: Plus, it lets us all comment on it. At the very least I'd ask M2C to coordinate it in his B+C blog and provide us all with regular updates. Mol, i know you told me before, but what does the Castigator fleet consist of? I guess i'll have to get an MSN account to hear everything else that is going on, huh? Is that where you all meet? Mol, what is the percentage of Castigators that get seconded to the Deathwatch, by chapter and company? What do you have of the Insignium Castigator? I will be starting to model soon and need details to get them right. Need markings for veterans, sergeants, squad leaders, company markings, vehicle marking, and Deathwatch markings. How are they applied to the Castigators armour? The fleet as I have it consists of the Battle Barges Sacred Endeavour and Holy Enterprise and the Strike Cruisers Inviolate, Thrice-Blessed Sword, Defiance, Ascendance and Radiant Light. Alongside that would be assorted escort vessels (but DON'T ask me much about them, because I don't know/haven't given it thought.) MSN is up to you - it's useful, but not essential. It does have its place but it isn't used all the time. I like this thread being a central resource that everyone can access and that can store large quantities of data. With regards to the percentage of Castigators seconded to the Deatwatch, I'm not sure that I could give you specific figures. I would say that it's less than 50% of the Marines. Probably less than 30% - you could perhaps say that one in five Marines will've served in the Deathwatch at some stage or another, though Fourth Company takes the most of those. Fifth Company has a squad called "The Excruciators" who are so-named because they're 'tools of the Inquisition'. ;) With regards to Insignium Castigator, if you have specific questions I can attempt to answer them. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Vocates/Castigators.gif The Castigators wear dark red power armour. They display the Chapter's badge upon their left shoulder pad and a squad designator on their right. The Chapter badge is displayed in white on a red field; it is typically displayed as an arm holding a whip, although certain decorated variants of the badge have altered the design. The Chapter symbol is said to symbolise the punishment the Castigators inflict upon their enemies. The squad designation is displayed upon the Marine's right shoulder pad. Tactical Squads are signified by a large white vertical arrow. The Assault Squads utilise a pair of crossed, double-headed arrows. Devastator Squads are designated by an inverted 'V' symbol. http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5741/companieswy8.jpg Each of the Chapter's Ten Companies has a unique badge identifying it in the field of battle. This is typically applied to the left knee of the Chapter's power armour, as well as appearing on standards and vehicles belonging to the Company. The First and Tenth Companies will often dispense with these markings. Chapter Veterans http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/CastigatorsVeteran.gif The Castigators' First Company is clearly distinguished by the use of white shoulder-rims and helmets. The Veteran Squads of the First are typically denoted by a rendition of the Crux Terminatus upon their right shoulder-pad. There are almost no limits to the degree in which the Castigators' veterans may customise their weaponry and armour. Many choose to display their own heraldry and distinctions. No two warriors of the First Company truly look alike. Battle honours, sigils and citations adorn armour, and armour-plates are often decorated with bold patterns and symbols derived from the chapter insignia. So the key way to distinguish First Company Veterans are the white helmets and shoulder rims. I'm undecided as to whether a Veteran Sergeant would have a red helmet with a white stripe or a white helmet with a red stripe. If we go back to tactical squads, in the Castigators Sergeants retain a red helmet. Their rank is signified by the Iron Skull, which is typically applied to their helmet but can be elsewhere on their armour. Like the Ultramarines, it could be displayed amidst the Chapter badge, but that could look odd on the Castigators. The Codex badge for squad leaders is the Iron Halo. I'll recheck my Insignium Astartes but for vehicle markings you could get away with using the Company symbols I supplied earlier. Marines that've served in the Deathwatch or in the service of an Inquisitor are entitled to display symbols of the Deathwatch - in such a case their Deathwatch pad would replace their squad markings - their squad markings would likely be moved to a kneepad. There are other ways to display it, though - through the use of the =][= on kneepads, greaves or worked into heraldry. Even small Inquisitorial pendants or jewellery, potentially. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1858821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Could the Iron skull for sergeants be placed on the chest plate of their armour? Have you deloveloped any specific battle honors that the Castigators use, besides the crown of thorns? The company markings are in what color? Red/White? Have you made any variant designs on the Castigator chapter symbol? Thanks for the fleet info. No i don't need the number of escorts, :lol: Mol, in any of the fluff or ideas you had for the Firebrands, did you have them working with an inquistor? If so what branch of the inquistion? I want to protray the Firebrands in a way that we both see them. Also need to know what bits that i need to get. Also need the paint reciepes, that everyone has used, please. Has anyone used that new spraygun from GW? Is it worth it? I'm thinking of themeing the army towards city fightning. If i do, what would you suggest on getting to make the army balanced? Any help on a list would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1858946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Well, I don't mind them being in this thread - which is thirty-seven pages long and getting close to a thousand replies! Clogged is clogged. Plus, it lets us all comment on it. At the very least I'd ask M2C to coordinate it in his B+C blog and provide us all with regular updates. Fair points. So let's go with that M2C if that's ok. And just for the record I have no issue with the 8th attacking by Aerial Assault or conducting sieges (But a the latter seems a waste of their Fast attack element ^_^) But I could see them charging into the breach followed up by the 3rd and other units. As a speartip type of unit. I agree with Mol, that maybe the whole company wouldn't be used. Possibly a strikeforce instead. Also need the paint reciepes, that everyone has used, please. Has anyone used that new spraygun from GW? Is it worth it? Personally I wouldn't go with the paint gun. Stick with hand painting ;) My recipe (on a Chaos Black undercoat): - Basecoat of Mechrite Red - Once that's even about two -three coats of watered down Red Gore. - A wash of Scab Red - Highlight with Red Gore/Blood Red 50/50 mix - Extreme Highlights with Blood Red I'm thinking of themeing the army towards city fightning. If i do, what would you suggest on getting to make the army balanced? Any help on a list would be appreciated. Lots of troops with flamers, plus a few Dreadnoughts and Vindicators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1859008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Could the Iron skull for sergeants be placed on the chest plate of their armour? Have you deloveloped any specific battle honors that the Castigators use, besides the crown of thorns? The company markings are in what color? Red/White? Have you made any variant designs on the Castigator chapter symbol? Thanks for the fleet info. No i don't need the number of escorts, ^_^ Mol, in any of the fluff or ideas you had for the Firebrands, did you have them working with an inquistor? If so what branch of the inquistion? I want to protray the Firebrands in a way that we both see them. Also need to know what bits that i need to get. Also need the paint reciepes, that everyone has used, please. Has anyone used that new spraygun from GW? Is it worth it? I'm thinking of themeing the army towards city fightning. If i do, what would you suggest on getting to make the army balanced? Any help on a list would be appreciated. The Iron Skull could theoretically be placed on their chestplate, yes - though it would be important to differentiate it from the common-or-garden-variety of skulls, which adorn just about every free surface in the Imperium. :P There are a number of plastic helmets that include the Iron Skull. Personally, I follow the rule that whilst Sergeants might not have the iron skull on their helmet, ordinary Marines wouldn't. I don't especially have other Castigator-specific battle honours and iconography, no. You could look at using the prime helix on kneepads as a testament of purity. The sun/corona/halo are also used as symbols of purity and power. The kneepad Company markings would be in red and white, yes. So for your Second Company troops it'd just be a single downwards white stripe. I don't think the Chapter symbol would vary that much - I do have a version of the badge where the whip is lashing rather than coiled - http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/altcas.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Castibolter.jpg Tiberius did a quick sketch of Third Company Chaplain Argentus which shows an example of the Chapter Badge incorporating other information - in this case, the Company number: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Cas_Chappy_Low.jpg You could perhaps look at these models by Fab-Gen that show the Tenth Squad, as designated by the 'X' branded into the arm on the banner: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/stuff030.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/castigators002-1.jpg Here's the Third tactical squad of the Fourth Company, led by Sergeant Acacius: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/Acacius1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/Acacius3.jpg And the Fourth tactical Squad, led by Erastus: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/Erastus1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/Cormack/Castigators/Erastus4.jpg Fab-Gen had the Tactical Sergeants displaying the Chapter Badge (with Acacius incorporating his Terminator Honours) and the Combat Squads displaying the skull surrounded by the whip. Technically that's "wrong", as it's Sergeants that have the skull. Still, there's fluff to surround that sort of thing, so I don't tend to worry. ;) Those are just potential ideas that might inspire you, though. As to Inquisitors, I can see Caphius working with Inquisitors. You make it sound as if there would be one Inquisitor attached to the Second Company - which isn't the case. I see him working well with Inquisitors from any of the Ordos, assuming they had appropriately Puritan convictions! Perhaps the Ordo Hereticus would be the best fit, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1859079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Wow, that puts mine to shame! Dang, those are some good looking marines... Ok, I will work on the Adamark Campaign ideas here. But the actual fluff and meat of it will be in my blog. Today, I begin construction of Squad VII 'Eagle's Claws' which I have bumped up on my painting list. +++Edit+++ Is there a full pic of Argentus? I think I have an idea... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1859218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Alas, no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1859398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 However, there is a larger version of Chaplain Argentus. You can see him here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1859483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I think he would be perfectly represented by the Power Fist Chaplain with a GS MK.4 over plate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1859678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Out of interest what would you guys feel the likelihood being that a said aspirant discovers that he is related to a long dead veteran of the Chapter? So his family would have the Myth of X, in which X is suddenly missing. Its a morality tale to them, but when the said aspirant joins the chapter he discovers X's name on the Chapter's Wall of Honour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1860366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Out of interest what would you guys feel the likelihood being that a said aspirant discovers that he is related to a long dead veteran of the Chapter? So his family would have the Myth of X, in which X is suddenly missing. Its a morality tale to them, but when the said aspirant joins the chapter he discovers X's name on the Chapter's Wall of Honour. I can see it both ways - it's likely to happen but in order for them to be a 'veteran' it would have to be several generations in the past. Plus, like the Dark Angels the Castigators are given their names on their acceptance into the Chapter - they aren't born with them. So it might be difficult for an aspirant to be endowed with this knowledge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/36/#findComment-1860439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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