brother varen Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'm just curious, What planets have you named in the Howling Stars? Need some input from you Mol, for the defense of Mutara. I know Mutara has a titan legion named Legio Lux. Have you come up with an organization for them? Also, Would the Howling Stars have any Knight worlds? I would like to think that in the opening purge of the Howling Stars that Legio Lux and a few Knight households were involved. They could have been the defense force while Mutara was in its infantcy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1843875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Arn't the Knight Households non-existent? I thought that they were lost? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1843915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 If Lexicanum is anything to go by, Knight titans are gifted to feudal worlds as barter for resources, and if there are going to be Forge world around, then there are going to be farm worlds (quite possibly feudal) to fuel them. So, all in all, I'd assume that they're still strong, alive and kicking. I also remember there being something about titan legions having their own little stock of Knight Titans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1843926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'm just curious, What planets have you named in the Howling Stars? Need some input from you Mol, for the defense of Mutara. I know Mutara has a titan legion named Legio Lux. Have you come up with an organization for them? Also, Would the Howling Stars have any Knight worlds? I would like to think that in the opening purge of the Howling Stars that Legio Lux and a few Knight households were involved. They could have been the defense force while Mutara was in its infantcy. Some of what you're asking is irrelevant to the Castigators. The organisation of a Titan Legio has little bearing on anything else, and so I've done nothing with it. That said, the best place to ask questions of that nature would be in the Howling Stars Discussion Thread. I'll do my best there to answer whatever questions you have, though I have to emphasise once more that I don't want to spend years of my life excessively detailing the entirety of the Howling Stars! I'm fine with detailing as much as is useful, but too much detail only confines us and makes it difficult for us to write without contradicting ourselves.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1844670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Mol, The Castigator fleet that you have named, are they the Originals from the begining of the Castigator chapter? I guess what i'm trying to ask is this: In the defense of Mutara i was thinking of having a BattleBarge sacifice itself to destroy/stall a large part of the advancing ork fleet. Of course, only with a skeleton crew. Don't want to sacifice to much. The captain of the battlebarge would be dirctly linked to the ship due to serve battle wounds in previous actions. Name unknown at this time. This is what i was thinking: Captain Timon (master of the fleet) was having trouble in slowing the advancing ork fleet. Captain XXXXX of the Battlebarge XXXXX had substained major damage and made the choice to sacifice himself and his ship to give more time to the defense of Mutara. He ordered an evac of all personal in any vessel or escape pod left on the Battlebarge and to report to Captain Timon's vessel. He then ordered the BattleBarge to full raming speed and targeted a large spacehulk with many other ork vessels around it for maxium damage. While closing on the ork spacehulk, he fired every weapon in his possession at it, to weaken it. Within kill range, he ordered a reactor overload. He was to take as many orks with him before he joins the Emperor. In a brillant flash of light, the Ork spacehulk and any ork vessel near it was obilerated. Needlessly to say, the ork warlord was among the dead. So, the orks fought amongst themselves to pick a new warlord to lead. The in-fighting gave the Imperials the time they needed. What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1845301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 The Castigators' Battle-Barges both date to the founding of the Chapter. The Sacred Endeavour was the ship Baraquiel used when calling the members of the Vocates together for the first oath of loyalty. It was also where the second swearing (after the fall of the Reapers) took place. The Holy Enterprise is where Baraquiel died after eradicating the Ryssith. They're revered relics of the Chapter and have sustained heavy damage over the years. They bear the scars of their service, and do so with pride. As a result, I'm a bit leary of ramming one into a Space Hulk! The idea will have to sit with me, but I'd be more inclined to allow a Strike Cruiser to go to its doom. With that said, I'm not sure that ramming a vessel into a Space Hulk is necessarily a good idea. Just because it's heavily damaged... I guess it's because you don't make it clear that the Ork fleet would've overwhelmed the Astartes? Of course, the thing is that Space Marine vessels aren't designed for ship-to-ship action, being mostly geared around delivering troops to a planet's surface. The Imperial Navy would've borne the brunt of naval actions before Mutara (though the Castigators would've conducted boarding actions, of course). My other concern is that the Hive Fleet Behemoth fluff has a Battleship charging a Tyranid bio-ship during the battles for Macragge and detonating its engines. I wouldn't want to seem too unoriginal! Perhaps we can work to make it something different, I'm not sure. I'm open to the possibility of heavily damaging a Battle-Barge (even crippling it) and destroying a Strike Cruiser, but we'd need to work out the logistics. Aside from that, we need a date for the Mutaran Conflict. Now that you've dated Caphius and know he became a Captain in 455.M41, I'd be keen to know when in his 550-year career you reckon he'd have defended Mutara! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1845325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 I've pieced this together based on the discussion on the previous few pages - hopefully it'll be useful and we can update it further. Castigators Timeline - NEW DATES AND REFERENCES AS OF JAN 17 YearNotes367.M41-: Caphius is inducted into the Chapter.455.M41 Captain Caphius becomes Captain of the Second Company upon the death of his predecessor. The Siege of Goddeth Hive: The Black Consuls Chapter is reported as destroyed during the Siege of Goddeth Hive. -: In late 455.M41 the Castigators receive word of the Black Consuls' apparent destruction. Caphius, newly appointed Captain of the Second Company, is tasked with travelling to Goddeth Hive to ascertain the truth. Caphius never relates what he saw at Goddeth Hive to anyone but his fellow Captains, but returns with the tattered and torn Company Standard of the Black Consuls, which is hung in the Hall of Heroes. 801.M41-:An unprecedented flicker in the light of the Astronomican throws thousands of ships off course. Communication is disrupted across the Howling Stars. Captain Caphius and his Company are stranded in the warp aboard the Strike Cruiser Inviolate.852.M41The Empress: Captain Sirius engages in a xenodcidal campaign against the XXXXX. The XXXX were a space-faring race united in service and worship to their living God-Empress. This 'deity' was a capable Commander and was able to coordinate a campaign that delayed the Castigators.855.M41The Scouring of Lacion: The Third Company engages in an extended campaign in the Lacion Sector against Warboss Gutzob. They are aided in their endeavours by the Crimson Knights Chapter. At Toth, Sergeant Solemnas killed the Ork Overlord, a senior lieutenant in Gutzob's horde. At Fordun, the Astartes encounter a faction of renegade Iron Warriors known as the Hellhammers. The Siege of Fordun was fierce; at its climax Dreadnought 'Godslayer' dispatched a Daemon Prince whilst Tactical Squad Solemnas seized the city gates, allowing the Armoured Spearhead of the Crimson Knights to rout the Iron Warriors. 994.M41 The Hydra: Sirius and the Third Company lead a force that engages a Tyranid Splinter-Fleet codified by Imperial strategicians as 'Hydra'. The initial engagements occur in space at the Quiet Barrier, a nebula only two sectors away from the Howling Stars. As the battle against the Splinter Fleet reached its climax, Captain Tigris and a specially-selected Strike Force from the Eighth Company struck at the Tyranid forces, engaging in deadly close-combat in order to give the Adepta Sororitas time to evacuate the bones and relics of Saint XXXXX of XXXXX. Tigris personally slays a Hive Tyrant in close combat. The relics are successfully evacuated, and the news is warmly received by Ecclesiarchal and Sororitas representatives.XXX.MXXThe Defence of Mutara: Captain Caphius leads 400 Castigators and other forces against the Orks of the Delvis Rift. (FURTHER INFORMATION INCOMING) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1847020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 The Hydra: Sirius and the Third Company lead a force that engages a Tyranid Splinter-Fleet codified by Imperial strategicians as 'Hydra'. The initial engagements occur in space at the Quiet Barrier, a nebula only two sectors away from the Howling Stars. As the battle against the Splinter Fleet reached its climax, Captain Tigris and a specially-selected Strike Force from the Eighth Company struck at the Tyranid forces, engaging in deadly close-combat in order to give the Adepta Sororitas time to evacuate the bones and relics of Saint XXXXX of XXXXX. Tigris personally slays a Hive Tyrant in close combat. The relics are successfully evacuated, and the news is warmly received by Ecclesiarchal and Sororitas representatives. That is crying out to be fictionalised (is that even a word?) I may just have to go away and write something up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1847113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Feel free; I'm not set on the details; I was simply trying to correlate the fluff you and M2C had given me. It's certainly not final. I did like the idea of the Castigators' actions being applauded by the Ecclesiarchy. Quintilius would be keen to promote relationships with other Imperial organisations, so it seemed to work for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1847515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I love the fact our games help drive the fluff for the chapter. Makes them worth playing. Also, good news Mol, I now have a Tau player in my neighborhood :o . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1848479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 The Tau have always occupied an awkward position for me. They're a relatively insignificant race on a galactic scale. I dare say that there's plenty of Chapters (those on the Western Fringes, particularly) who've never heard of the Tau. In order for Chapters to justify playing the Tau, nearly every DIY player seems to place their homeworld somewhere along the Eastern Fringes! The older Castigators fluff stated that the Fourth Company was the widest-ranged of all the Companies, and the only one to have fought the Tau. One of my close friends also has a Tau army (The Elsy'eir Sept) and so I've been placed in the awkard situation of how to justify such a battle. I can't just not fight him, so... In some games I've just pretended I'm playing Fourth Company (they did fight the Tau when they brought about the downfall of Commander Quickblood, Shas'O Tash'var Raal). In others, I just play "Generic Space Marines". Sometimes I'm not fighting Tau, but another alien race - it would be easy to represent the Belaxalar Xenocide, or the campaign M2C created against the alien Empress. But then sometimes it just doesn't matter, and we're just playing a game. After all, I wouldn't be able to fight Abaddon the Despoiler either, by fluff! ;) Random ramblings. In other news, as a treat for reading through that, I managed to unearth a few sketches Tiberius sent me a while back: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigators/Space-maroon_doodles_low.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1848526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Abaddon ate Sirius in a recent game :lol: . I think I need to rework my list! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1849032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasoroth Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Or not charge a Marty Stu (of the nth power) with a Space Marine captain :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1849262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 More Notes on the Third Company Team Leaders now added: Squad I (Tactical) ‘Torchbearers’: Sergeant Meridius/TL Scipius Squad II (Tactical) ‘Sentinels’: Sergeant Deiad/TL Vorenus Squad III (Tactical) ‘Illuminators’: Sergeant Solemnas/TL Decurion Squad IV (Tactical) 'Vanquishers': Sergeant Xerian/TL Lucianus Squad V (Tactical): Sergeant Barrus/TL Marius Squad VI (Tactical): Sergeant Hiberus/TL Quintus Squad VII (Assault) ‘Eagle’s Claws’: Sergeant Asprenus/TL Sabastius Squad VIII (Assault) ‘Venerators’: Sergeant Torquatus/ TL Crucius Squad IX (Devastator) ‘Hammers of Dawn’: Sergeant Asturias/TL Belisarius Squad X (Devastator) 'Iron Guard': Sergeant Eclectus/TL Orosius Third Company Notable Deeds:>890.M41: The Revival. The Third Company moves through the systems on the border of the Howling Stars, decimating planets that had become lax in enforcing Imperial rule. These systems, one of which was consorting with the Eldar, quickly renewed faith in the Emperor after a thorough population screening by local Inquisitorial agents. 890.M41: Sergeants Barrus and Hiberus are dispatched to quell a small uprising on XXXXXX. It is here that Sergeant Barrus lost his legs when he was caught in an intense mortar barrage in a village south of the capital. Ordering his squad to stay in cover, Sergeant Hiberus braved the turmoil to reach his crippled companion and took him in his arms and carried him again through the same bombardment back to where his squad was bunkered down. Here Apothecary Gratus was able to stem the flow of blood and keep the honorable sergeant from joining the Emperor. 899.M41: The Defense of XXXXXX. The Third defends the planet XXXXXX from an invasion of a portion of Splinter Fleet Hydra. Captain Sirius takes command of the Local PDF and a Guard Regiment from XXXXXX, in a delaying action that allows most of the population to withdraw before the planet is burnt. Sergeant Astyre of the Tenth Squad is killed fighting a Carnifex. Brother Eclectus takes charge of the squad for the remainder of the war. He fights with honor and distinction against the Tyranids, and Captain Sirius presents honors him with the Marksman’s Honor, for his admirable service, and permits him to wear a thorn pattern upon his helmet. Sergeant Tarandas of First Squad kills a wounded Hive Tyrant in close combat, a rare and unusual feat even for a Space Marine. In Honor of the fantastic achievement Tarandas is elevated to the position of Senior Sergeant of the Third Company and gifted with the power fist ‘Osgod’. Sergeant Meridius is taken from the position of Scout Sergeant to the Sergeant of Squad I. Sirius’ Wargear: ‘Lux Vibedis’- Lux Vibedis was forged by the great sword-maker Evander, a chapter serf renowned for his craftsmanship. The blade shines with an emerald light when activated and it is said to be imbued with unnatural power. Master-Artificed Mk. 2 Crusade Armor- Sirius’ Power Armor is a great work of art, covered in golden-framed depictions of great deeds of its previous wearers and of Sirius’ own deeds. It turns aside even the deadliest weapons and houses advanced logic engines capable of keeping Sirius appraised of all battlefield conditions and it is rumored to have a sentient machine spirit capable of controlling armor systems if Sirius is wounded or incapacitated. ‘Tarquin’s Sheild’- A storm shield borne to battle by the famed Captain Tarquin, it currently belongs to Captain Sirius. Gifted to him by Master Quintillus for his cleansing of the Howling Stars following the 1st Tyrannic War it protects Sirius from even deadly plasma and melta weapons. Master of the Arsenal’s Cloak- The Master of the Arsenal’s position is typically represented by a cloak of deep black and white that signifies the light and dark of Losanco and the Master of the Arsenals role within the chapter; to his foes he brings both Light and Dark, the light of the Emperor and darkness to all who oppose him. Iron Halo-Passed to him from his predecessor, Sirius bears his Iron Halo on a mounting over his shoulders below his back banner. ‘Lightbringer’- ‘Lightbringer’ is a master-crafted plasma pistol gifted to each Captain of the Third since the time of XXXXXX when the company first received the nickname ‘Lightbringers’. ‘Justificatus’- Sirius still bears the knife he wielded as a brother-marine, because of it’s of sentimental value to him and the memories of the foes whose lives ended upon its blade. ‘Helm of Juneval’: Sirius wears a modified Mk. 4 helmet, upon which rests a crest of thorns. The helmet once belonged to Captain Juneval, a Captain of the 8th Company famed for his savage persecution of those who had betrayed the Emperor during the wave of apostasy that spread in the middle of the thirty-ninth millennium. The Adamark Campaign A campaign that I wanted to write about. I wanted to create a trying environment for Sirius in a war that causes him to grow into a true Captain instead of the hack and slash character I have him as now. During the campaign he will be tested in ways he has not been tested, in ways he has not since the revelation of the Tyranids. I want it to be a big engagement so I have elements of the 1st, 8th, and 10th supporting the 3rd in this campaign. The war is primarily fought by the guard, but that wont have anything to do with what Sirius is doing. Right now I am in the outline stage but I think I should have a good two pages about it as the finished product. Notes on Sirius himself: -I am thinking of ways to deepen his character without shoehorning him into a Cassius, or Grimaldus, or a Tycho. I came up with multiple options: loss of a mentor, time with the deathwatch, held prisoner, sole survivor of a mission. When I think of characters for him to be the 40k version of I think of Johhny Rico from Starship Troopers, Faramir/Eomer, Devlin from Once and Eagle, or Obi-Wan during the Clone Wars -In large games he will be represented by Sicarius' rules, as I think they are appropriate for the power that an Astartes Captain would wield. -I want Sirius to have a single ally within the chapter with which he would identify with and be 'friends', if such a term could even apply. -I want to expand more on his dealing with the Techmarines and the Cult Mechanicus. I think for Mutara to be providing such high quality equipment to the Castigators it would require a friendly face from the chapter. -I think the 3rd would be deployed alot, fighting many different foes across the length and width of the Segmentum, but not so far as the Eastern Fringe, there is no point for them to be that far out IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1853115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 +++Edited+++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1853143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 M2C, nice work. You have put alot of time in trying to flesh out Sirius. Where would sirius have recieved the crest of thorns? What battle? Mol, i know this a bit left field, but what armies do you play with your gaming group? I have seen refences to black legion (chaos), orks, and i know you have been trying to make the Castigator 5th company. By the way any new updates for the 2 company blog? Haven't had much time to work on Caphius or Mutara yet. Have to go through the notes again to make sure i don't ramble. ;) One thing that chips at me is that i seem to see Caphius differently from you. The artwork of Caphius doesn't seem right to me. Don't get me wrong, its your character and i wouldn't change him. But the minature that i make of Caphius (when i make him) will be different. With your permission of course. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Well, perhaps you could elaborate on how you see him? A lot of the questions I've asked you have been aimed at seeing how you envisage him. I'd be interested in knowing how you see him. M2C - Good work; I have a few niggles but I'll try to post a bit later to give you my in-depth opinion (and answer the rest of Varen's questions. ;)) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 "Caphius is a zealot amoung zealots", a statement that you made. I dated Caphius as captain with the fall of the Black Consuls. Caphius saw the fall as deserving to the chapter for being "lax" in its duties to the Emperor. A scene, that i envisioned was young Captain Caphius walking over to a large group of dead Black Consuls only to see a Librarian in the middle of all the carnage. To see a "witch" in the middle of the dead warriors, must have contributed to their demise. Their "laxitivity" to allow such abominations in their ranks must have weakened them to outside sources. Lycidius was correct in his veiws of these abominations. Caphius will view all chapters as the same, as being lax in their duties to the Emperor. A chapter must have no weakness to exploit. He sees the Castigators as the purest in the Emperor's arsenal of weapons. He will strive to prove this to any who challenge his view. He works with all others in the chapter, but he must be the one in charge of the mission. He will not show any emotion to anyone, even if it is deserved (very stern). He will show respect for the ranks in the chapter that match or exceed his own. When other captains deal with Caphius, it is like walking on hot coals or a bed of nails. His moods change within a heartbeat, and many have to intisapate the next. Those that have seen Caphius's rage on the battlefield know not to be around. Some have suggested that he is close to that of a khorne berzerker. Caphius is a brillant stratgist and does not tolerate mistakes by others. I see Caphius's armour as being more artificed, than that of the artwork. I don't see him as a glory hound at all. With all the battles and honors that Caphius has earned through his career, i see artifice armour as a sign to his accomplishments and his continued survivability. Like that of an honor guard, possibly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 "Caphius is a zealot amoung zealots", a statement that you made. I dated Caphius as captain with the fall of the Black Consuls. Caphius saw the fall as deserving to the chapter for being "lax" in its duties to the Emperor. A scene, that i envisioned was young Captain Caphius walking over to a large group of dead Black Consuls only to see a Librarian in the middle of all the carnage. To see a "witch" in the middle of the dead warriors, must have contributed to their demise. Their "laxitivity" to allow such abominations in their ranks must have weakened them to outside sources. Lycidius was correct in his veiws of these abominations. Caphius will view all chapters as the same, as being lax in their duties to the Emperor. A chapter must have no weakness to exploit. He sees the Castigators as the purest in the Emperor's arsenal of weapons. He will strive to prove this to any who challenge his view. He works with all others in the chapter, but he must be the one in charge of the mission. He will not show any emotion to anyone, even if it is deserved (very stern). He will show respect for the ranks in the chapter that match or exceed his own. When other captains deal with Caphius, it is like walking on hot coals or a bed of nails. His moods change within a heartbeat, and many have to intisapate the next. Those that have seen Caphius's rage on the battlefield know not to be around. Some have suggested that he is close to that of a khorne berzerker. Caphius is a brillant stratgist and does not tolerate mistakes by others. I see Caphius's armour as being more artificed, than that of the artwork. I don't see him as a glory hound at all. With all the battles and honors that Caphius has earned through his career, i see artifice armour as a sign to his accomplishments and his continued survivability. Like that of an honor guard, possibly. Varen, your view contradicts itself a couple times. The first scene is nothing short of awesome, and I think this would fit the "zealots" well. Your line "He will not show emotion to anyone, even if it is deserved" to "His moods change within a heartbeat" also, maybe it's just me, but I don't see the fellow charging around shouting and tearing heads off of shoulders with his bare hands also being a brilliant strategist. Other than that, it's an interesting view, and one that fits the character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother varen Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 kinghongkong, thanks for the comment. I don't see Caphius charging around tearing heads off like a berzerker. What i mean is that when all stratgy goes out the window, when push comes to shove, Caphius will go with his primal instincts to survive. I believe Dan Abbnet used the phrase "fight time". Or if you know the movie "300", the scene when the spartan captain saw the death of his son and went "blood drunk"?? Am i wording this better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colrouphobic Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Remains to be said- Best topic on a DIY chapter ever! It's also horrenduously long to read through when one has forgotten to follow it for a month or three... btw, Marshal2- MSN exist for mac,I use it regularily and it works like a charm. http://www.microsoft.com/Mac/products/messenger/default.mspx should do it :P Now you can connect with the crowd and be in on those meetings you were asking about how to join in september (told you, it is a ***** to rea through it if you missed three months or so) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 kinghongkong, thanks for the comment. I don't see Caphius charging around tearing heads off like a berzerker. What i mean is that when all stratgy goes out the window, when push comes to shove, Caphius will go with his primal instincts to survive. I believe Dan Abbnet used the phrase "fight time". Or if you know the movie "300", the scene when the spartan captain saw the death of his son and went "blood drunk"?? Am i wording this better? Much clearer, thank you. Just to make it clearer for me, does this have anything to do with his mood swings? If you're saying that he's stern and straightforward and controls himself then you saying something about mood swings doesn't really fit. Concerning Sirius's friend, would this be an equal, another captain? Or a subordinate in his company? One of the things that really made me smile in the Horus Heresy series was the relationship between Garro and Tarvitz. Is there another chapter with battle brothers who have campaigned with the Castigators, formed bonds that are only shared through fellow battle brothers? Perhaps other Vocantes (spelling?). Mol, anything I can contribute and not step on anyone's toes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Mol, has expressed desire to keep the Castigator fairly reclusive. Personally, I think they would have honor brothers with the Vocates but not one of the famous ones the Ultramarines or Blood Ravens or another Chapter of Legend (IMO it becomes a name drop)*. I agree that to have them working with other Chapters all the time would have them become something of a supporting cast instead of the stars which is kind of the point of a DIY, to forge your own destiny. I figure that the crown of thorns on the helmet was for something Captain Juneval did, and Sirius inheirited it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 He will show respect for the ranks in the chapter that match or exceed his own. When other captains deal with Caphius, it is like walking on hot coals or a bed of nails. How would Sirius feel about Tigris then. Tigris was wounded by a psychic assault during his time in the Deathwatch. Possibly he sees him as a tainted and unworthy of the rank he possesses? Could be a source of bitterness between the two captains. @ M2C I see Sirius is a former DW member. It could be a link of brotherhood between the two captains, shared experiences and all that. It could the reason why Sirius has elements of the 8th beside him against the Tyranids in two campaigns? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 He will show respect for the ranks in the chapter that match or exceed his own. When other captains deal with Caphius, it is like walking on hot coals or a bed of nails. How would Sirius feel about Tigris then. Tigris was wounded by a psychic assault during his time in the Deathwatch. Possibly he sees him as a tainted and unworthy of the rank he possesses? Could be a source of bitterness between the two captains. @ M2C I see Sirius is a former DW member. It could be a link of brotherhood between the two captains, shared experiences and all that. It could the reason why Sirius has elements of the 8th beside him against the Tyranids in two campaigns? In the first section you mean Caphius right? Not Sirius. I do think Sirius as a young marine seconded to the Deathwatch would provide him with the extra-chapter experience I want him to have without him being the bat boy of another Chapter. It would also give Sirius a chance to bond with Tigris providing for that 'friendship/brotherhood' factor I was going for. Ferrus would you be interested in helping me with some fluff about a joint 3rd-8th Company assault on some non-chaos separatists? Darth Potato, I need your help on this one too. I've got some notes I'll PM you guys whenever you respond to this and we will talk over MSN. Mol what do you think about the 3rd joining a Imperial Task Force under an Inquisitor that is fighting against non-chaos separatists? I wanted non-chaos because I think it would better allow for the advanced Xenos tech I want the Separatists to use. Names for Squad V and VI Squad V (Tactical) 'The Witnesses': Sergeant Barrus/TL Marius Squad VI (Tactical)'The Beholden': Sergeant Hiberus/TL Quintus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/80277-the-castigators/page/35/#findComment-1854826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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