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I've finished the Ventrilokar and the Visionary: Work progress on the others. I am hoping to get the rest done over the weekend.

Only good politics is the eternal strife of the High Lords of Terra and jostling for power of the Throne World of the Imperium of Man.

I'd hope the moderati could understand that maybe this one thread can be policed a bit harsher but also be a lot more open with such discussions considering how much the politics of this whole situation matter. Might be worth a mod convo.

I’m definitely interested now.

Okay guys, I am back with this. I return with a goal to be clearer about what it is I am trying to do. Firstly, I must apologise for not being clearer in my initial post. I can see now, on reflection, how I was not clear. The Defence Value was NOT meant to replace how current defensive stats. It was meant to be a way to, at a glance, see, understand, and quantify how tough or defensive a unit is. That leads me to my next point. This work I've done is meant to mesh seamlessly with current 10th Ed. rules. So, staying with D6s only, and the current to-wound system (strength = toughness = 4s to wound). So, I'm not wanting to change the core rules of the game. Why have I done this then? Well, there is an accepted notion that lore power scaling and tabletop power scaling are comically far apart. This is an attempt to bring them a little closer together. With my changes, lore and tabletop are still apart, but they're closer. I think, at least. Another thing I should have done in the initial post was share all the work I've done; not just the defensive profiles. By sharing everything, you'll see the end point; point values. I'll also be sharing my stuff as images as the table formatting in the inital post really pulled the rug from under me, too. Okay, here we go... Now what is not included here are core abilities; Deep Strike, Infiltrators, Scouts x etc. I think they should carry a points value. Not much, but something. Perhaps, Currently in the actual ruels, an Intercessor is 16 points and an Infiltrator is 20. Their abilities should cancel each other out, meaning the only disparity lies with the core ability Infiltrators. Which means GW think that's worth 4 points. Now Infiltrators is equal to Deep Strike imo, which is in turn better than Scouts x, again imo. So should Deep Strike be 4 points and Scouts x 2? I think that would actually overcost those abilities. Therefore I propose Infiltrators costs 2, Deep Strike costs 2 and Scouts costs 1. A Phobos marine should have infiltrators and scouts imo taking their ppm to 22. While a Terminator goes up to 27. Let's discuss!

Thats why I think an exclusive alt of something existing is the likely case (as has been often with the lego ones), I dont think they will make up a character for this, not in the least because "they" isnt games workshop. DK isnt even a subsidiary and Im pretty sure GW isnt the one dictating requirements here. And if bigger ips like Lego, Starwars, Marvel and Harry Potter are held for a certain exclusivity, I dont think GW is in the position to wiggle out of it. When I mentioned things like Ezekiel or Pedro Kantor its because I can see GW adjusting on their side of the spectrum, and the "alt" is released first... GW already has the resin currently and can keep it for a while and eventually in the future release another non DK exclusive plastic for it. Similar but different with the Karlaen suggestion, its a named character applyable for a book like this, but for the game it would just be a terminator captain. It might not be those names specifically, but they represent more the possibilities. But I dont think they will or can resort to tricks like inventing a primaris lieutenant out of the blue or using an already previously sold miniature as exclusive, because its not just GW who "has to answer for that", its DK as well.

the new instagram images with additional text (plus the below) have been added to the main Hearsay website too, so that seems a good place to keep eyes on for all(?) the updates. "Flame Weapons FTW Hearing flame templates are doubling in size. Must be to give the Sallies a big push as poster boys for the new edition. Fire change? Bring me the HEAVY flamer!"

Yikes..This is aimed directly at the marvel fans infecting warhammer as a whole. Cringe signaling even

The pouch is a breaching charge, indicative of plastic Breacher Squads. Heard it here first.

I've never seen them. But I have seen a d2, so I guess anything is possible. It is a factor of 6, so they can triple the stats and keep the same approximate odds. It does worry me that they'll go all in on modifiers like 40k.

Any expectations on books that will be released, any rumors on it? Rulebook with the box, or will there be more supplements?

Thanks! I’m using 1 plasma per 10 man squad and switching up the others. 2 more 10 man squads to paint and I’ll finally start my DWKs. Just gonna knock this Spartan out first.

That’s as bad or worse than the OG Cadian plastic kits. Haven’t seen any that bad in years. Like probably 10+ years.

No one is adverse to plastic support. Earlier in the thread you mentioned the option of HH getting no, or less support. As a trade off for no changes to the rules. Seeing as we’re talking hypotheticals, and we’re not even reacting to a concrete set of facts on the new release (yet), why must we limit ourselves to that choice? Why limit myself to a binary of getting support (but it’s 40k style) or no support at all? The community is allowed to elaborate on what they would prefer GW do. I’ll use my thoughts on what I’d like from 3.0, may have some overlap with how people are thinking. - New Plastics (always good. I will buy new cool plastic Heresy stuff even if they don’t rework the rules) - New Rules (on the fence. if they just change everything and it has no relation to 1.0/2.0 it could frustrate a lot of people. At almost 3yrs post launch I am only just getting more familiar with the rules. Probably got in 6-7 games of 2.0 so far.) - New Army Books, Supplements Campaign Books (supplements are welcome for various reasons. See ZM rules, also new missions, etc. It’s quite probable that that the army lists and options and points costs will get tweaked, regardless of whether it’s a built from scratch edition or a rework) The 40k 3-year cycle with big changes and churn is not what I’m looking for from the hobby. Given how my time is allocated plus where my interests, I would prefer not to see huge changes to 30k. The HH community is also smaller than the 40k one. So big ‘marmite’ changes that fragment the player base might make it harder for the community to thrive.

You missed the entire point of my post.

Hmmm. I'm not sure mould lines would fall directly under the faulty/damaged at the time of purchase proviso to sufficiently meet a mandatory refund or exchange, even as glaring as these, unless they think that by removing such a mould line you risk damaging the mini (especially around the knuckles), which may well be the case. If GW or the retailer wish to exchange then great, and customer goodwill goes a long long way in small business, and if it was my shop then I'd exchange it, but I'm not sure they'd have to.

Yeah, my trust in their design capabilities is really waning. The Mk. III redesign is straight up bad imo. The aesthetic differences between the current Mk. VI plastics and the Mk. VI designs we've had in plastic and resin from 3rd ed. onward also turn me right off. Even things like the legion command upgrades just feel very removed from the heresy look defined by the initial HH resin line and campaign books.

I mean, aren't we all? Why else would we be here. Looking very nice and I am very jealous of all those dreads. I have a an old Assault on Black Reach box-nought that might need to be dug out and given a fresh lease on life.

There are two different sets of rumors running around for IK , and they are mutually exclusive (as in, they say conflicting stuff) Likely both are fake but if i had to believe one, i'd go with the one this specific bit isn't from (for the record, those give the KD an incoming-ap-reduced-by-one aura ) because they "feel" a bit more like what GW would do instead of having knights going super saiyan once per game, but who knows Edit: since i don't think they are here, this is the second set. Keep in mind the start of the second line above

This is a brief follow-up, after the US-UK trade deal announced yesterday. As expected, the 10% tariff on UK goods, including Warhammer miniatures, remain. That was always going to be a thing as previously discussed, because it's across the board to prevent other countries to transship to avoid this surcharge, like a Chinese company establishing a British corporate entity to avoid their own tariffs. At this point, GW really is free to announce any pricing updates they wish. I'd compare it preparing a 1000 pts army list for a Campaign Crusade, with everyone waiting for the latest Balance Update. People try to make an optimal list, but moreover, they want it to be a legal list; they don't want to go over-points, so they need the latest Field Manual with the actual points costs. Now GW has a similar clarity. As always, I'm remaining apolitical here. The office of the US President has stated an expectation that non-US companies, such as GW, will "eat" the tariffs, meaning they'll reduce their prices to accommodate the 10% tariff. What I learned in this process is, a responsible UK CEO should remain as apolitical as I am here and state that any tariffs are an issue "that's between Americans and their government," and stay out of that whole debate. There are way more elements here, but I'll limit myself to these non-political issues in support of B&C's rules, it's really for the best.

That looks like the mould line you used to get on the 3rd/4th Ed kits (I have a few Space Marines with ovoid barrels even). I haven't seen anything like that in the last decade, though! I hope the retailer sorts it for you (I imagine they can't really argue if GW says they're duff and you show that e-mail to them).

Not angry, it just makes me sigh. I mostly just collect and paint these days anyway so I’ve largely given up on being “current.”

This usually happenes to older, worn sprues, and I haven't seen any this bad in a LONG, LONG time. Hopefully the 3rd party store treats you right.