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Hi guys, As I've been cleaning out boxes and working on projects I've broken into a box of stuff that I knew that I had, but I had forgotten how extensive it was. All of these bikers have been given metal sculpted tactical shoulder pads with the arrow pointing up and an appropriate Fist sculpted Pad. Most of them have the Fist with a Ring around it, but the Veterans have some other options, like Laurels, and Larger or Other pads. 12x Tactical Bikers -(Straight Rider, no Weapon) 4x Plasma Bikers -(Plasma Gun strong armed) 2x Graviton Bikers -(Graviton Gun strong armed) 4x Melta Bikers -(Melta Gun strong armed) 6x Biker Sargents -(5x Chainsword, 1x No Weapon) 2x Special Weapon Bikers -(Ready to accept any weapon (Melta, Plasma, Chainsword, etc) 1x Apothecary on Bike -(Nathecium) 4x Veteran Bikers -(No weapon, Veteran Pad) 1x Champion -(Power Sword, Combat Shield) ---------------------------------- These are the 36 models that I currently have. I have access to an un-assembled classic metal bike chaplain that will be my 37th bike. At this point, I don't quite have all the models that I would like to have. I am planning on doing a few other things. This is my to do list: 1) Need to build a Bike Librarian. Right now I have a Jensus Natorian on the way from Ebay to convert into a Bike Librarian. I have most of the bits I need. I'll have to look for some robed legs to finish him out. He will be fully converted and I will remove any offending iconography before he gets called finished. 2) I want to upgrade the Biker Champion to use a bit that I found. I've found that I have a metal Emperor's Champion's Black Sword. I will be doing this soon. 3) I need to model my Captain as a Biker. He'll need to be a Left Handed Power Fist and Storm Shield, so I'll be converting a Shield to the front of the bike, or some such, to make it work. Looking for any ideas on modeling this. 4) I need to acquire 2-3 attack bikes. I think this is a big thing for Bike armies at the moment, as they can suck up some wounds that protect your important pieces and/or provide a Melta where needed. ------------------------------------------ Otherwise, what other bikers should I be bringing, and how else would you load out what's left? I am thinking that one more box of bikes and the 2-3 attack bikes should see me with enough stuff. My bikers now are a good mix I think, but I'd take input on how to finish them out. Best, Paul

Let's continue the "Watching Out" discussions with a focus on the 'Battering Ram' of the Watch: Bikers I want to survey the boards opinions on their relevancy and useful weapon load-outs.

The Kill Team special rule indicates that units in a formation with the rule must deploy as one unit and "cannot split up" during the game. What advantage does one gain by using Vanguard Vets or bikers in these units? Aren't they limited to moving alongside the regular infantry models? Somebody explain what I'm missing, because this seems like a waste of points to me, and the formations don't make any sense as a result.