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The Word Bearer red is great, it should be that dark. Anything lighter just isn't right.

Might the issue with the Breacher be his pose? It's a bit awkward due to the flamer arm. He kind of looks like he's bracing himself, which is great, but the right arm throws that off by not really doing much of anything. I think having it out and to the side a bit with the shield raised a touch might help.

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The Breacher looks cool, I think the odd stance is what makes him look a little off. As it stands everything is making him look like he is leaning over to his front, the shield angle doesn't help that either. If the flamer arm was outstretched rather then braced it would make it look more natural, or you could angle the shield so the bottom is inwards. Either way the shield looks amazing and befits the IIIrd without looking ridiculously ornamental and the Palatine shoulder pad is a great trademark for the squad if that is the route you are going!

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It's weird to see a black purity seal, but I've heard blood goes black after a while so I guess it's fitting for the Word Bearer. :tongue.:

 

Lovely updates! I like binary's breacher shields more for the Emperor's Children though.

Thanks for the plug knight!

On a serious note I love the direction you've taken the EC kizz, been a big inspiration for my own loyalists of the third.

I do think the model needs something to make him not just a palatine with a shield, maybe a topknot for the helmet? (that's what I'm leaning towards with mine) as a cape would be impractical, and I think using white as an extra colour on the armour (like you've done with the silver on the palatines) will help differentiate them and tie the shield into the scheme.

Otherwise, outstanding as usual!

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Dude that's a tremendously different style to your usual models. I really like it. Makes me wanna go back to my original idea for the RG before I hit upon the Ultramarines. Great lighting on the eye lens and the weathering is fantastic, not too much but not too little.

 

edit: OK, I didn't see the full band of Traitors. Holy :cuss, dude. That might be my favourite 'all-stars' assembly of the Traitor Legions I've seen yet. And without hyperbole I must say that your Ultramarine makes me want to go back and repaint all of my infantry. Cheers for that ;)

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Kizzdougs Venerable Brother

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Another Breacher.

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4339_zpszjzrcbh1.jpg

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4340_zpsf0zahua1.jpg

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4341_zpsflevv33g.jpg

 

 

 

 

Hear is a quick copy/paste of what I wrote on FB regarding the direction of the breachers:

 

"I was originally thinking that they would be an elite bodyguard unit for a Primus Medicae, forming a shield wall to protect the Medicae while he performs his battlefield tasks. But I'm leaning more towards making them an honour guard for a Legion Herald. Chosen representatives of the Emperor's Children were often tasked with carrying the Emperor's orders to other Legions and Imperial Commanders throughout the Unification Wars and the Great Crusade. I figure that as the bearers of the Emperor's Standard and authority these Heralds would have an elite bodyguard of some sort. So this is my attempt to build such a unit. I'm planning to give them helmet crests reminiscent of those worn by the Roman praetorian guard if I can find a good source. Not sure how I'll run them in games, but I'll have to give it a bit more thought once they're finished."

 

 

 

 

 

Dang bro. I'm excited to see this bad boy. How're you thinking to paint him up?

Thanks bro! I'm thinking of using a predominantly white scheme with purple as the secondary colour. 

 

Looks really cool with the shield, really IIIrd Legion stuff! :thumbsup:

Thanks mate! Glad you like the shield.

 

The Word Bearer red is great, it should be that dark. Anything lighter just isn't right.

Might the issue with the Breacher be his pose? It's a bit awkward due to the flamer arm. He kind of looks like he's bracing himself, which is great, but the right arm throws that off by not really doing much of anything. I think having it out and to the side a bit with the shield raised a touch might help.

Yeah, it's difficult to get a good pose with the Palatine Blades because the torsos and legs are all one piece. Hopefully it comes together when he gets some paint on him.

 

Dude your not sure... The breachers are going to be :cussing Ace! Maybe you need capes and plumes on their helms to make them less Palatine Blade like and more ornate Breacher like.

Don't you dare have an issue with these midels

Hahaha, don't worry I'm working on getting them all plumes. Praetorian guard style.

 

The Breacher looks cool, I think the odd stance is what makes him look a little off. As it stands everything is making him look like he is leaning over to his front, the shield angle doesn't help that either. If the flamer arm was outstretched rather then braced it would make it look more natural, or you could angle the shield so the bottom is inwards. Either way the shield looks amazing and befits the IIIrd without looking ridiculously ornamental and the Palatine shoulder pad is a great trademark for the squad if that is the route you are going!

Thanks for the suggestions bro! I'll be sure to keep them in mind while I build the squad.

 

It's weird to see a black purity seal, but I've heard blood goes black after a while so I guess it's fitting for the Word Bearer. :tongue.:

 

Lovely updates! I like binary's breacher shields more for the Emperor's Children though.

Thanks bro! 

 

 

It's weird to see a black purity seal, but I've heard blood goes black after a while so I guess it's fitting for the Word Bearer. :tongue.:

Lovely updates! I like binary's breacher shields more for the Emperor's Children though.


Thanks for the plug knight!
On a serious note I love the direction you've taken the EC kizz, been a big inspiration for my own loyalists of the third.
I do think the model needs something to make him not just a palatine with a shield, maybe a topknot for the helmet? (that's what I'm leaning towards with mine) as a cape would be impractical, and I think using white as an extra colour on the armour (like you've done with the silver on the palatines) will help differentiate them and tie the shield into the scheme.
Otherwise, outstanding as usual!

 

Thanks bro, glad you like him! I'm going to try to give the squad crests on their helmets reminiscent of the Roman Praetorian Guard. I'm going to go for a predominantly white scheme with purple as the secondary colour.

 

The shield looks great, but I do think the rest of the model needs something to jazz it up a bit, I think a crest or topknot could definitely help in that respect.

 

Also, those mixed legionnaires are looking fantastic.

Thanks, mate! I'm in the process of giving them helmet crests :)

 

Very nice, as usual :smile.:

 

Was curious as to how you did your white though. I have a large white & gold project coming up and I like that creamy shade (or it might be my monitor).

Thanks, dude! Was there a particular example of the white that you were wondering about?

 

Dude that's a tremendously different style to your usual models. I really like it. Makes me wanna go back to my original idea for the RG before I hit upon the Ultramarines. Great lighting on the eye lens and the weathering is fantastic, not too much but not too little.

 

edit: OK, I didn't see the full band of Traitors. Holy :censored:, dude. That might be my favourite 'all-stars' assembly of the Traitor Legions I've seen yet. And without hyperbole I must say that your Ultramarine makes me want to go back and repaint all of my infantry. Cheers for that :wink:

Thanks, dude! I'm really glad you like the Raven Guard as I took some inspiration from your work. And don't you dare! Your Ultras are spot on!

 

I'm getting what you are saying that the model is just a palatine with a shield. I've been struggling to come up with ideas....

You could get some of those third party helmet crests, they'd help set the aside from regular palatines. Perhaps use heavier MK II/III pads instead, to add a bit more armoured bulk.

Thanks for the shoulder pad idea bro! i'm going to go with it. As for the helmet crests I'm not really a fan of any of the third party options. The often seem to be pretty poor quality. I'll have to see what I can come up with.

 

Hmmmm I think your right bulk out the Pads and maybe go for a kitted out look?

Yeah, I'm going to go with MkII shoulder pads on the right side and MkIII on the left.

 

I used destroyers as my mark 4 breachers because of the heavier plate.

 

Mayb do something similar with the torso, but pressmould the Palatine Blade details on to it?

Then they still have the EC look but the bulk to take a hit

That would be an excellent idea for most Legions or a regular MkIV breacher unit, but I think trying to get the right level of Palatine detail on the destroyers would be far to difficult to pull off properly, at least for me.

 

Word Besrer looks great as usual. I like the Palatine Breacher, I mean regular Breachers just look like tac marines with shields so why shouldn't the EC Breachers look like palatine blades with shields.

Haha, I suppose you're right. The Emperor's Children only deserve the best.

 

Maybe do a reverse scheme for the breacher. Like mostly white/silver with a few purple details like that terminator praetor. It'd make those bad boys pop.

Yeah, I'm going to go for white as the dominant colour.

 

Thanks for the Raven guard write up, I picked up a few tips there I will want to try out going forward. 

 

Lovely work as ever chief.

Glad to hear that, dude! And thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking ;)

 

 

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Kizzdougs Venerable Brother

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I've been working on this Alpha legionnaire. He was originally going to be a Dark Angel, but the XX Legion stole him away...

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4361_zpshb8ojqwm.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

The second breacher's pose is spot on! It almost resembles some kind of greco-roman warrior bracing himself to weather an assault. :biggrin.:

Glad you like it, dude! That's exactly the look I was going for. I'm pretty happy with how the pose turned out :)

 

Yup. That sword makes the pose perfect. 

 

Those shields too are looking the works. Any chance you will be able to replicate them using instamold?

Thanks, bro! I've got 15 shields at the moment so I don't have any plans for using instamould :)

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking ;)

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Good rendition of the XXTH, I like it keeps to the classic pre age of darkness artwork whilst still keeping with the current hipster scheme ;)

 

The white and green detract from the armour creating a focal point which if engaged in combat would bring the preys attention to the helm allowing counter attack from the peripheral areas.

 

In other words you did good boy

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Thanks for the kind words :)

 

 

The Alpha legionnaire is done! I'm seriously considering starting either a Raven Guard or Alpha Legion army. Both were fun and relatively quick to paint and I've always been a fan of the XIX and XX Legions.

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4365_zpshkdbkag5.jpg

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4366_zpsz6hsapbe.jpg

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4367_zpsy3rzr5wv.jpg

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4368_zpsyekxugfb.jpg

 

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN4369_zps71eawwwt.jpg

 

 

 

 

Interesting idea to use the AL green as a marking/insignia vs the typical (or atypical, it's AL) green with blue/blue with green color scheme.
Any particular reason(s) for it, or just wanted to do something different?

(In case it wasn't clear, I like it)

I actually gave the armour a coat of Tamiya Clear Green, but it doesn't show up well in the photos and the matt varnish that I used to seal the weathering powders made it even harder to see. If I paint more Alphas I'll probably give them a second coat of the Clear Green.

 

Liking that metallic effect and the chipping is on point.

Thanks a lot bro :)

 

The white and green badges add some interesting contrast; looking good!

Thanks, dude! Yeah I wanted to break up the armour a bit and I also wanted to include some 'classic' Alpha Legion green somewhere.

 

I won't even bother to post another comment explaining my fanboyhood of another incarnation in Kizz's March of the Legions .

 

Oh wait.

Hahaha, thanks a lot bro!

 

Good rendition of the XXTH, I like it keeps to the classic pre age of darkness artwork whilst still keeping with the current hipster scheme :wink:

The white and green detract from the armour creating a focal point which if engaged in combat would bring the preys attention to the helm allowing counter attack from the peripheral areas.

In other words you did good boy

Thanks, dude! I'm glad you like the combination of the old and the new. I'm actually curious to see if I can find a metallic purple spray to replicate the old pre Heresy Alpha Legion scheme.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking ;)

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