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They said they'll talk about Phall ? Weird. There is really few actual fighting other than spaceship going pew pew and stuff, so I don't really see the point.

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prospero should be next since it adds two new legions, custodes and sisters of silence

Ah, right, of course !

Cerbero666 Battle-Brother

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It is the first part of the Dropsite Massacre. It will have Word Bearers, Night Lords, Iron Hands and Salamanders in it.

Ergo, the second part of the Dropsite Massacre will have Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion.

Highly doubt they're gonna talk about space battles, as those aren't relevant to the game system. Next book might be about the battle of Calth, or the Invasion of Ultramar by the World Eaters and the Word Bearers. Pretty hard to tell, at this point.

 

prospero should be next since it adds two new legions, custodes and sisters of silence, phall only needs rules for a zone mortalis mission, pollux and imperial fists legion, it'd help to free the schedule

 

white scars, dark angels and blood angels can share a book portraying the legions that are thrown to the edges of the galaxy as the heresy explodes

 

I explained it in my previous post, I tried to collect all the info and this is what I get: Phall is the next book after the Dropsite Massacre so the Iron Warriors and the Imperial Fist will be in that one, and probably the Raven Guard and the Alpha Legion, since that book will cover the second part of the Dropsite Massacre too. 

 

The next set is going to be Prospero, Signus Prime and Calth, so probably we get Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Thousand Sons and Blood Angels in one book.

 

The only legions out of place would be the Dark Angels and the White Scars, I haven't found any information about them yet.

Kol Saresk Venerable Brother

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Zone Mortalis can also be represented by the crap ton of boarding actions during the battle of Phall as well. To be honest, I don't think they'll have a problem finding in a way to squeeze in all the non-space marine units.

 

I mean, if we went by everything new shown in the pictures is getting a slot in Massacre, then at least we are looking forwards to Phoenix Guard, Kakophoni Noise Marines, and Catulan Reavers. That's off the top of my head. Plus whatever the four new Legions are bringing to the table as well as whatever Mechanicum forces were mentioned in the video. Everything is building off of and adding to the list in Betrayer, not making new ones. So I think what they'll do is either devote a very small section to reiterating the basic list, add enough units that you don't need the basic list from Betrayer or maybe force you to buy Betrayer just so you have the basic list.

 

EDIT: my phone is leaving me behind a couple of posts.

depthcharge12 Venerable Brother

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Wow this is all crazy. I like the new tank and models.

 

Do you guys think that drop pod is going to be a "super heavy" of sorts? It looks like it should transport 20 marines and looks more at home with apocalypse/ lords of war slot.

 

And are those big admech guys the knight titans we've been hearing about?

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My prediction on the order of books.

 

Book 3 is Part 2 of the Massacre with the rest of the massacre legions: Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion.

Book 4 could be the stalling battles of the Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves.

Book 5 should be the Battle for Terra with the last 3 legions (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, White Scars) and Custodes.

The Machanicum will be sprinkled in each book just like the first.
 

Cerbero666 Battle-Brother

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My prediction on the order of books.

 

Book 3 is Part 2 of the Massacre with the rest of the massacre legions: Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion.

 

Book 4 could be the stalling battles of the Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves.

 

Book 5 should be the Battle for Terra with the last 3 legions (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, White Scars) and Custodes.

 

The Machanicum will be sprinkled in each book just like the first.

 

I doubt it

 

"Ideally no more than 6 months between Massacre and the next book (Battle of Phall)...

 

 

Next set intended to be.....

 

prospero, Calth and Signus Prime

 

Not set in stone....

 

Imperial Army, Custodes and Sisters of Silence saved for that block.

 

There WILL be a book called Mars (might not be til book 7s+, or til a Warlord titan is possible)"

 

From L'Astropate 

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Book 4 could be the stalling battles of the Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves.

You forgot the Thousand Sons !

 

 

Book 5 should be the Battle for Terra with the last 3 legions (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, White Scars) and Custodes.

Makes more sense to me than the rumours Cerbero666 is quoting (not trying to be a douche here, just speaking my mind).

Kais Klip Battle-Brother

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My prediction on the order of books.

 

Book 3 is Part 2 of the Massacre with the rest of the massacre legions: Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion.

 

Book 4 could be the stalling battles of the Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves.

 

Book 5 should be the Battle for Terra with the last 3 legions (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, White Scars) and Custodes.

 

The Machanicum will be sprinkled in each book just like the first.

 

I doubt it

 

"Ideally no more than 6 months between Massacre and the next book (Battle of Phall)...

 

 

Next set intended to be.....

 

prospero, Calth and Signus Prime

 

Not set in stone....

 

Imperial Army, Custodes and Sisters of Silence saved for that block.

 

There WILL be a book called Mars (might not be til book 7s+, or til a Warlord titan is possible)"

 

From L'Astropate 

 

Also Imperial Fists are shown in the presentation to be in Book Three, the end of the first Trilogy (a lot of fethin "threes" flying about!). 

Cerbero666 Battle-Brother

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Book 4 could be the stalling battles of the Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves.

You forgot the Thousand Sons !

 

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Book 5 should be the Battle for Terra with the last 3 legions (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, White Scars) and Custodes.

Makes more sense to me than the rumours Cerbero666 is quoting (not trying to be a douche here, just speaking my mind).

 

 

No offense taken. But it's a fact that the IF will be in the Book 3 and it makes sense. How much time could take to reach the Battle of Terra? Just think about how much time would take to the Novels (that inspires and determine in a huge way the FW's books) to reach Terra. 

 

If Legions like IF, BA and WS don't appear until the Siege of the Imperial Palace (that could perfectly be in 4 years or more from now) the people that want to begin with an army of one or more of that legions would be in disadvantage. 

 

Let's put this as today. People who want to play with World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Death Guard and Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus, don't have any trouble, they got the specific rules and many miniatures to create a decent army. But people with other legions in mind just can improvise with the standard rules of the legions, without primarchs, characters or special units or rules to their beloved legions. Now imagine that the three legion that you mentioned don't get a book until the Battle of Terra...

 

IMO Forgeworld will try to get the legions out as fast as they can, to get all of us pleased.

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Anyone else of the mind that Simon's remark at Ferrus Manus being "in his fridge" is a dig at all the "He's still alive!" peeps? teehee.gif

Hehe.

I'm wondering, if the rumour that each primarch is getting 3 sculpts eventually, what Manus #3 will look like.

Might make a good objective marker.

Excessus Venerable Brother

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Word Bearers seem to have sneaked into a few weapon sets. They look good with black shoulder pads.

 

I can hear 1000heathens screaming "why did they skip the pre-heresy color scheme!?" I agree, to a point.

It's a question that answers itself.  ;)

Kol Saresk Venerable Brother

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Actually one of the posters did have the grey scheme and so far everything is saying that both schemes were present at Istvaan V(with the red being the Gal Vorbak as they were only one singular Chapter at the time) and it was after Istvaan V that the entire Legion went red. So it actually shouldn't be a problem.
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I'm more than excited about the Phall book, the mechanicum toys, and the space marine heavy tank. I bet that is the cross between land raider and predator we've been hearing about for years.

 

Also, I've been wanting to try out a metallic gold for the imperial fists instead of a yellow, but that poster looks so cool, I'm starting to reconsider.

Kol Saresk Venerable Brother

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Hmm, well going by the fact that there were models for the Phoenix Guard and Kakaphoni Noise Marines, I think it is going to be more than just one unit per Legion, if they are keeping it equal. Hmm, weren't those special Word Bearers the Circle of Ashes called Pyroclast Destroyers? So I wonder if it is going to be an upgrade for that unit. Makes me wonder if all of the units are getting an upgrade. Very interested in seeing what happens. Looking that I was right that the main basic list is not going to be reiterated. Darn. Still, looking forward to the future.
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Book 4 could be the stalling battles of the Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves.

You forgot the Thousand Sons !

 

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Book 5 should be the Battle for Terra with the last 3 legions (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, White Scars) and Custodes.

Makes more sense to me than the rumours Cerbero666 is quoting (not trying to be a douche here, just speaking my mind).

 

No offense taken. But it's a fact that the IF will be in the Book 3 and it makes sense. How much time could take to reach the Battle of Terra? Just think about how much time would take to the Novels (that inspires and determine in a huge way the FW's books) to reach Terra. 

 

If Legions like IF, BA and WS don't appear until the Siege of the Imperial Palace (that could perfectly be in 4 years or more from now) the people that want to begin with an army of one or more of that legions would be in disadvantage. 

 

Let's put this as today. People who want to play with World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Death Guard and Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus, don't have any trouble, they got the specific rules and many miniatures to create a decent army. But people with other legions in mind just can improvise with the standard rules of the legions, without primarchs, characters or special units or rules to their beloved legions. Now imagine that the three legion that you mentioned don't get a book until the Battle of Terra...

 

IMO Forgeworld will try to get the legions out as fast as they can, to get all of us pleased.

 

 

I wanted to get my prediction in before word come down from HH Weekend.  The old information never mentioned trilogies.  I based the timeline on the first book and basic marketing ideas. 

 

As far as waiting...that is all we have ever done with FW.  I also never put time to my proposed release timeline.  I still think all legions (at least the primarch and core units) will be out within 2 years from book one.  That leaves them to trickle out books that fill out the legions.

Kol Saresk Venerable Brother

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Well it seems like Forgeworld and Black Library are working close together on this, with each influencing the other. Prime example is looking at Betrayer. The first time I saw the opening quote was not in Betrayer or any sneak peeks of the books. It was in an old post by A D-B. IIRC, Betrayal had been released and so had that little tidbit about the War Hounds' strong suggestion that they originally held the original title of being the Emperor's Executioners(although at the time I was unaware of the latter since it seems to be one of those details no one commented about) and yet the trust part of that quote makes a ton more sense(not that it didn't before) especially when put with the line "We are the War Hound no longer." And the Destroyer black among other things.

 

In the Q&A session with Alan Bligh as reported by Apocalypse40k, IC that are published and receive rules will receive models while those made specifically for the FW books will not just as certain BL characters will not receive rules and therefore models. So to be honest, I think BL's HH series is influencing the production and therefore release of FW's HH series and vice versa, which would explain why BL's series has been focusing so much on the start of the Heresy and building up the foundation rather than just pushing ahead and then fleshing out.

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Word Bearers seem to have sneaked into a few weapon sets. They look good with black shoulder pads.

I can hear 1000heathens screaming "why did they skip the pre-heresy color scheme!?" I agree, to a point.

It's a question that answers itself. msn-wink.gif

Hell no, it doesn't!!!! The color scheme and symbol of the Word Bearers up to Isstvaan was granite, with the burning book. It should've been there. It's integral. It's a main part of their history.

Honestly, it might be the only bit of the HH books that I've absolutely hated with a passion so far. FW screwed the pooch, there.

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