Khornestar Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I like the high angle of the possessed backpack, but the spinal details may not fit without a little sculpting of green stuff to match his theme/trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4617938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 I like the high angle of the possessed backpack, but the spinal details may not fit without a little sculpting of green stuff to match his theme/trim. hmm the hight and the angle where the reson i discarded the possesed backpack, thought it was too much, but i might have been wrong? woukd like to hear more opinions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4617961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017  I like the high angle of the possessed backpack, but the spinal details may not fit without a little sculpting of green stuff to match his theme/trim. hmm the hight and the angle where the reson i discarded the possesed backpack, thought it was too much, but i might have been wrong? woukd like to hear more opinions   Nah, not necessarily replace anything, just my thoughts from that shot. I think your double pack is pretty sweet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4617978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017   I like the high angle of the possessed backpack, but the spinal details may not fit without a little sculpting of green stuff to match his theme/trim.  hmm the hight and the angle where the reson i discarded the possesed backpack, thought it was too much, but i might have been wrong? woukd like to hear more opinions  Nah, not necessarily replace anything, just my thoughts from that shot. I think your double pack is pretty sweet. im not sure myself, so thats why in so keen to hear what you all think, with so many talented people here it seems silly not to ask.  i been working onwards, my hobby time is limited so dont want to stall so inbeen working on a duble vented backpack and if that is good enough ill use that otherwise we have the possesed backpack or other options to go with.  this is what it looks like so far .  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/8495FAB7-90F1-4330-82C9-8ACB2328A176.jpg  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/4662A8F7-EB83-4AB7-8947-D810BD3407A9.jpg  looking at it now im not quite happy with the lower part seen from the back so thinking i could sculpt a curve down and in to blend it, also unsure if i should fill the little hole nere the backpack. or go with something else? DarkVen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4618102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hmm tough call. I do think you're right about needing a surface to connect everything, maybe overlapping with the tubing between the lower pair of vents and the body of the backpack. Or slap some sort of tanks in that space maybe, as additional analgesics/drugs/filtration/whatever is keeping the old boy going. thamier 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4618106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hmm tough call. I do think you're right about needing a surface to connect everything, maybe overlapping with the tubing between the lower pair of vents and the body of the backpack. Or slap some sort of tanks in that space maybe, as additional analgesics/drugs/filtration/whatever is keeping the old boy going. tubing could be cool, and the tanks idea is good too, but does it fit the artwork closely enough? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4618270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 In my opinion it already looks good, however if you want to add cabling and med tanks go for it, it wouldn't be against the artwork as the back pack isn't represented with full detail in any of the images you've shared. I wouldn't change it too much though, it could give him too much bulk in the back which wouldn't be very realistic for someone who can barely stand up straight! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4618310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 In my opinion it already looks good, however if you want to add cabling and med tanks go for it, it wouldn't be against the artwork as the back pack isn't represented with full detail in any of the images you've shared. I wouldn't change it too much though, it could give him too much bulk in the back which wouldn't be very realistic for someone who can barely stand up straight! ithought of sculpting a arch for the bottom of the "arms" on the backpack or adding cables or even both, what is your thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4618635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think that some cables could look good, on the line of those that the back pack already has. I'm not so sure about the arch though, but maybe you could sculpt something small to make the conection curvier... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4618660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Eidolon Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I am definitely in favour of the possessed pack, minus the rather stupid spine on the back. The sweep, angle and position of the vents look much more striking and makes for a better profile.  I would use cables and a tank - the FW Apothecary packs have the vial/tanks of them and I think that adequately represents the additional life support he'd require. I would guess these could be press moulded too, so you mightn't have to chop an expensive one up..... It could then help cover the blanks. You are entirely safe with art work, not many major characters have art showing their backs!!  What you've done so far is epic, no one is ever going to doubt it is Mal, so feel free to take a little artistic licence!! thamier 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think the possessed backpack works really well (minus the spine, of course, and like others have said) :) I still cannot see the double vent in the artwork, though. But it's also going a bit like Hidden Content ]http://i.imgur.com/NyKI8Qc.gif so it might be me. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 I think that some cables could look good, on the line of those that the back pack already has. I'm not so sure about the arch though, but maybe you could sculpt something small to make the conection curvier...  im gonna try adding some cables, and decided to sculpt a bit tonsoften the transition of the went arms.  I am definitely in favour of the possessed pack, minus the rather stupid spine on the back. The sweep, angle and position of the vents look much more striking and makes for a better profile.  I would use cables and a tank - the FW Apothecary packs have the vial/tanks of them and I think that adequately represents the additional life support he'd require. I would guess these could be press moulded too, so you mightn't have to chop an expensive one up..... It could then help cover the blanks. You are entirely safe with art work, not many major characters have art showing their backs!!  What you've done so far is epic, no one is ever going to doubt it is Mal, so feel free to take a little artistic licence!!  im not sold on the possesed backpack but not ruling it out, sadly i dont have any forgeworld apothecary bitz but i like the idea and gonna try to implement it somehow  I think the possessed backpack works really well (minus the spine, of course, and like others have said) :) I still cannot see the double vent in the artwork, though. But it's also going a bit like Hidden Content ]http://i.imgur.com/NyKI8Qc.gif so it might be me. ;) hehe its okay if you cant see that well in your old age augustus ;) its mostly clear on the 3rd artwork but the pictures i posted is very small but have a look on google, you can hint it in the 2nd picture too but only clear on the 3rd.  in other news i been going over the suggestions you guys given me in poses with weapons so used some poster taq as usual, bear in mind its just to give you a idea of what it could look like, you have to imagine the boltgun having a shoulder strap and the hand holding it one the one picture actually have the thumb on the right side ;)  first up we have him with a holstered bolt pistol and a scabbarded power sword, while his Boltgun is slung under his arm, with his hand resting on it pose but you have to fill in the blanks  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/F7F111CD-EF1A-4F92-99FF-E59D1A9FB6B8.jpg  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/971B03C0-EB20-40AE-8C6D-D3A7C75FEF5F.jpg   2nd him firing bolt pistol, could add slung boltgun and scabbared sword but think the boltgun will make it too cluttered maybe?  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/28AEA46C-3FE3-4C96-BFF5-ED1FF314188A.jpg  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/865B3DD6-36B2-4DAD-B5BC-AB1032381472.jpg  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/7E5642F3-28A5-4382-945A-3118A56103FA.jpg   more bolt pistol, not so much action but could look a little comanding  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/922D16B2-5A4B-478A-900C-AC36AE1BF76D.jpg  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/C95761C1-B0CE-4F25-A236-475123EF33BF.jpg  http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/672DDF85-03ED-4778-9505-406989F02754.jpg  what do youthink? best one? all horrible? other ideas? Vairocanum and Nemac Vradon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd go with pose one (bolter down) but lower the head to A- emphasize the hunch back B- emphasize his miserableness Augustus b'Raass and Teetengee 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I like the first option you posted where his hand is rested on the boltgun. Not sure if this was mentioned before but I just remembered one of the dark vengeance chosen had a quad vent backpack you could maybe look at for inspiration. But honestly I prefer your quad vent backpack more than the one from dark vengeance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 hehe its okay if you cant see that well in your old age augustus HAHAHA Shots Fired! I'll give you a cookie for that one. ;)  I'm going for option one as well. Because it conveys his old age and miserableness, but also because it bulks out his mid section the most - which is my only gripe with him atm - he's just way too thin there. Perhaps you can eventually bulk him out slightly more with some pouches or grenades too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemac Vradon Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Option one is my vote :) Â Nemac Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Definitely option one with the slung bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4619767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 okay seems like everyone likes option one with the slung bolter, for that i need to find a open left hand should have one somewhere, then make a shoulderstrap for the boltgun, next question is where would you think it look best with handplacement on the oltgun? on the side? griping underneath it? holding the handle? Â @Augustus i like a chaos cookie then, as for bulking out the mid section when i add the flayed skin it be right there around his mid ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Laid on top would probably look best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd say just have it touching the side, as if he's checking to make sure it's still there. The Twisted is not really one for combat, so I'd make him look the Adviser role, and that would probably go a ways to help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hmmm I'm going to disagree with everyone in here and vote for option two! :P He might be old and wounded but he can still give a good fight (think of Iacton Qruze, he's even older). However if you go for option one which is also good I would put his hand resting over the bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 i did a quick google search for some reference pictures but didn't find anything good, so if anyone have something i could use ill be greatful. Â i think its option one traitor but you are right its even hinted that he is very powerful but hiding it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 another thing is that if im going with option 1 then i need to sculpt the flayed skin first. and still unsure how to mount it in the back, might make it like its rivited on. one rivet at each end Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Why would you mount it on the back? Isn't his flayed skin purely a frontal, apron kinda thing? It seems to me it's made up of the skin of the upper body of a man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/75/#findComment-4620641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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