thamier Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Man, I hate to be that guy, but what would those bolters need an underslung blade for? Rule of Cool, I know, but still...it's better not to think about it for too long... i know but what else would you put there? the standard is a bit of chain with a spike dangling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 ...yeah, and I would have preferred that, to be honest. Just my two cents, though. But since you asked for feedback... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 ...yeah, and I would have preferred that, to be honest. Just my two cents, though. But since you asked for feedback... hmm thanks for the feedback, i will hold on a bit and then hear what the rest think, someone might have a brilliant sulution. i am very grateful for your input Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 While a bayonette mounted on a stationary weapon is a bit unnecessary, so is 90% of all csm spikes. It's 40k, leave no gun unspiky. And if someone assaults the fortress, the defenders can wave the filter around if they run out of ammo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/0CE94F9D-2596-4A15-92A4-F3C89CD5DCAE.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/663EB6B4-EDAC-402B-A2CC-0F978681B610.jpg this is what it might look like Vairocanum and Marius Perdo 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Perdo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) The bayonets look cool and should stop climbing infantry from interfering with the guns if they want to keep their fingers.Lots of chaos models have blades in odd places that have no in game effect. Look at terminator combi-weapons, the flamer seems to have a power axe blade on it.As for alternatives maybe the chains with hooks from various marauders flails, dangling chains from skullcrusher kits (for the side of the heavy bolter like dark blessings or totemic items). The small ball and chain flails from the chaos chariot weapon (I am using those to link my berserkers to Khârn). The marauder horseman kit has similar stuff that ends in chaos stars or skulls (better quality/res than the khorne berserker box).There is a chaos knight steed tail I am forever cutting off and replacing with tentacles that is a collection of chains ending in skulls and hooks.Of course chains could be swings for the same infantry the bayonet stops....I quite like the head, and I know you are trying to avoid the old glue the dragon/gargoyle heads on the vehicle sprue to the heavy bolter/lascannon and want the heavy bolter barrel to be its roaring mouth spitting death or somesuch.The only thing I can think of is possibly a larger stylised chaos face/head, like a defiler faceplate or one from a lord of khorne, with the guns barrel coming out of the mouth on that. Getting a part that scales well and doesn't look daft might be the problem.However it looks cool but as white cast plastic it can be hard to tell. Is it a bloodletter champion head or one of the ones from the chaos warrior box. Edit: Or some sort of jaw on the lower side as if the barrel is coming out of a mouth. I'll go an look at my chaos bits, I can almost visualise something that might pair up with that chaos skull thing that is on top. Edited August 17, 2017 by Marius Perdo thamier and BrotherJim 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Not a huge fan of the bayonets, but it doesn't stop it from looking good. I think it's possible that the bolter looks "chaos" enough without them, and that you'll probably have the bastion itself sufficiently detailed with spiky/trim accoutrements. Though, again, it doesn't look bad. I'd consider just using the bloodletter faceplate and see how that works with the bastion in total. Just some thoughts. Looks good, like I said. Can't wait to see the whole thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) The bayonets look cool and should stop climbing infantry from interfering with the guns if they want to keep their fingers. Lots of chaos models have blades in odd places that have no in game effect. Look at terminator combi-weapons, the flamer seems to have a power axe blade on it. As for alternatives maybe the chains with hooks from various marauders flails, dangling chains from skullcrusher kits (for the side of the heavy bolter like dark blessings or totemic items). The small ball and chain flails from the chaos chariot weapon (I am using those to link my berserkers to Khârn). The marauder horseman kit has similar stuff that ends in chaos stars or skulls (better quality/res than the khorne berserker box). There is a chaos knight steed tail I am forever cutting off and replacing with tentacles that is a collection of chains ending in skulls and hooks. Of course chains could be swings for the same infantry the bayonet stops.... I quite like the head, and I know you are trying to avoid the old glue the dragon/gargoyle heads on the vehicle sprue to the heavy bolter/lascannon and want the heavy bolter barrel to be its roaring mouth spitting death or somesuch. The only thing I can think of is possibly a larger stylised chaos face/head, like a defiler faceplate or one from a lord of khorne, with the guns barrel coming out of the mouth on that. Getting a part that scales well and doesn't look daft might be the problem. However it looks cool but as white cast plastic it can be hard to tell. Is it a bloodletter champion head or one of the ones from the chaos warrior box. Edit: Or some sort of jaw on the lower side as if the barrel is coming out of a mouth. I'll go an look at my chaos bits, I can almost visualise something that might pair up with that chaos skull thing that is on top. lots of good ideas, i had one if those horse tails but dunno were its gone, but i have four heavy bolters one this bastion, a lower jaw seems cool aswell. Not a huge fan of the bayonets, but it doesn't stop it from looking good. I think it's possible that the bolter looks "chaos" enough without them, and that you'll probably have the bastion itself sufficiently detailed with spiky/trim accoutrements. Though, again, it doesn't look bad. I'd consider just using the bloodletter faceplate and see how that works with the bastion in total. Just some thoughts. Looks good, like I said. Can't wait to see the whole thing. might run them bare, thats also a option, ill try to do a full mock up so we can have a look. in the meantime look a distraction!! http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/97240D15-1A83-4267-ABC2-CD18B76C560B.jpg Edited August 17, 2017 by thamier Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitaRasmus Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Interesting stuff, and the bunch of flames look great. :) Just a tip - white resin can be very hard to see the details on - also when you're inspecting them for bubbles, etc. If you put a drop of black turpentine based enamel Humbrol paint in the resin mix, it turns a nice grey, that's much easier to see the details on - no tricks, just the regular small metal bottles we all used as kids, building model airplanes. Btw, do you use a pressure chamber, or just cast and hope for the best? Marius Perdo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Interesting stuff, and the bunch of flames look great. :) Just a tip - white resin can be very hard to see the details on - also when you're inspecting them for bubbles, etc. If you put a drop of black turpentine based enamel Humbrol paint in the resin mix, it turns a nice grey, that's much easier to see the details on - no tricks, just the regular small metal bottles we all used as kids, building model airplanes. Btw, do you use a pressure chamber, or just cast and hope for the best? i ordered some resin dye already, but didn't inow you could use those model paints, and nope no chamber just alot of hoping hehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitaRasmus Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Sure works - you can also use the cheapest crap oil paint you can find (you know those sets of tubes for next to nothing). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Sure works - you can also use the cheapest crap oil paint you can find (you know those sets of tubes for next to nothing). thanks! ill test that :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4860749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 here is a quick look at it atm, still isn't dine but a good mockup so you can see the bolter in place, im gonna add a bit more to it, im even considering the standard spikes along the top, not sure but considering it. would still love to hear your feedback good and bad. http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/07B7DC53-B01D-4103-A5E4-B77B01C32487.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/678A6637-C393-4488-B498-2CB9EE84EF2E.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/2D74CB06-4F70-434F-8119-5BCB1F614FA7.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/D2A157F1-BFA0-4C97-A1D6-7AB1F79C6B66.jpg http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/1C0F8FC7-E0F0-433C-B432-725ABB25C3D1.jpg so what do you think? good horrible? ideas ? thanks alot! Commissar K., Marius Perdo, Sgt. Blank and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagentus Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Wow that looks epic ... really likig the chaos symbols with the gs. I recon the spikes on top would be good, maybe some human trophies of the bastions old occupants? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The chaos symbols are really cool, but I agree with Sagentus, some chaos trophies would definitely be in order! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Perdo Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Seeing the heavy bolter with the skull on top greyed out, they look great. Not sure it even needs bayonets or dangling chains or a lower jaw.As an aside I personally have never been a fan of railings of spikes on chaos models, whether terminator racks or vehicle sprue ones (just me) but practically they are snapping accidents waiting to happen, especially trying to transport something as bulky and blocky as a bastion. If you travel to play just something to note when coming up with the model and a transport solution. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 it's funny you should say that, i been waiting for the greenstuff to cure, and its still not done but im guessing something like this http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/1F291735-43D9-4D6F-AE94-B96EF4EBBAF5.jpg im still not sure about spikes, might add a few bigger ones but as Marius says its not handy to transport and they break and whatnot. The Traitor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitaRasmus Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Great work on the "trophy" - one suggestion however; It would look very grisly (and therefore fitting for chaos!) if you could tilt the head upwards, and let it be impaled by a spike, going through the mouth grille. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 Great work on the "trophy" - one suggestion however; It would look very grisly (and therefore fitting for chaos!) if you could tilt the head upwards, and let it be impaled by a spike, going through the mouth grille. so something like trophy number 2? http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/91681BFE-9619-4C15-9DF8-8713EF7DF6D0.jpg just glued the legs on on this so cant put the spike in, after the glue is dry i need to hollow out the back a bit so the spike can slide in all the way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitaRasmus Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Great work on the "trophy" - one suggestion however; It would look very grisly (and therefore fitting for chaos!) if you could tilt the head upwards, and let it be impaled by a spike, going through the mouth grille. so something like trophy number 2? http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/91681BFE-9619-4C15-9DF8-8713EF7DF6D0.jpg just glued the legs on on this so cant put the spike in, after the glue is dry i need to hollow out the back a bit so the spike can slide in all the way Very good! But still, I think it ought to be through the mouth - just because it's horrible. ;) thamier 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Great work on the "trophy" - one suggestion however; It would look very grisly (and therefore fitting for chaos!) if you could tilt the head upwards, and let it be impaled by a spike, going through the mouth grille. so something like trophy number 2?http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/91681BFE-9619-4C15-9DF8-8713EF7DF6D0.jpg just glued the legs on on this so cant put the spike in, after the glue is dry i need to hollow out the back a bit so the spike can slide in all the way Very good! But still, I think it ought to be through the mouth - just because it's horrible. ;) tou do have good ideas so moght have to try makeing another trophy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4861994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamier Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 trophy up http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/thamier/work%20in%20progress/476BC447-336D-4809-B3D9-78655AD48F2B.jpg Marqol, Commissar K., The Traitor and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4862088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Cooooooool! Loving it. thamier 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4862226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagentus Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The trophys look epic and certainly make the bastion look more evil, like it's inhabitants. thamier 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4862495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 This bastion is going to be epic! Loving the trophies so far, would love to see other non-marine trophies too (xenos & regular human). Some battle damage on the bastion would look great too I think since it's chaos. Looking forward to seeing more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278434-let-the-galaxy-burn-balefire-legion-40k-again/page/87/#findComment-4862520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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