Xenith Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Oh man, if Deadman's Hand granted the Smash rule...Incredible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Well if the rumors are true about bouncing into another assault after winning, then I feel that vanguard vets will reign supreme and give a competitive edge to Blood Angel players. It used to be like that, will never be like that ever again. It was the most broken thing in 40k at the time =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durundal Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Does anyone think our DCDreads would change? Like making them not Troop Choice :( or even making them a vehicle squadron? Maybe they'll make blood talons gain rending? In my world of bubblegum and butterflies that'd be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 2 attacks base and no extra attacks from wounds wouldn't surprise me... GW really hates assault units right now. I'm sitting on 12 dreads so I hope we are still able to field many in a regular list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durundal Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I hope they don't get rid of our dreadnought army. or our masculine scratch attack. I'm sitting on 10 dreadnoughts atm, if you don't mind me asking, why do you have 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I doubt blender dreads are going to get nerfed hard. But if the trade trade off is getting walkers the potential to score as troops, eiher in 7th or via special rules, that could be interesting. You guys make me look like a a hobo with my 9.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durundal Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Heh your dreds are probably painted. I'm waiting to do mine all at once. I digress. Dread scoring units would make dread spam a good all round list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I only got 3, I'm quite embarrassed now :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm sitting on 10 dreadnoughts atm, if you don't mind me asking, why do you have 12? Why not? I like dreads :) 4 heavy support dreads 3 deathcompany dreads 2 normal furioso 2 librarian furioso 1 old metal dread that I don't use and probably will never bother to paint. and like 2 trays with various arms. Actually I ended up with 3 black reach dreads by mistake as I placed a bid on 3 identical auctions thinking they were the same when they got bumped off the page.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I too hope lots of dreads are still viable. I have 1 Fragioso, 1 Siege Dread and 1 Heavy Support dread already built and painted. 1 Furioso and 1 Death Company dread under construction, one plastic Fragioso unbuilt and put in an order for another 3 Forgeworld dreads today (Siege, Heavy Support and TBC).In fact far from merely helping us keep super-dread armies viable I want them to increase in size! 3 furioso dreads in one talon for an elite slot (like in the siege vanguard list for FW), dread HQ option (cannot be warlord), dread special character (Moriar!!). More walking tombs, I say, more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In fact far from merely helping us keep super-dread armies viable I want them to increase in size! 3 furioso dreads in one talon for an elite slot (like in the siege vanguard list for FW), dread HQ option (cannot be warlord), dread special character (Moriar!!). Why not? Both space wolves and dark angels have vehicle HQs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well, as I understand it Dreadnoughts are usually awoken from their slumber by someone quite high up the food chain. They'd have to be a fallen Chapter Mater of some renown to supplant the incumbant force commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 HQ dreadnoughts, outside special characters do not make sense to me, for obvious fluff reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In the same way that you'd let a Vet. Sergeant take command of a mission I think there's a case to be made for having a dread as an auxiliary HQ.Here's a thought, we have Librarian dreads, why not Sanguinary Priest ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkman Of Baal Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In the same way that you'd let a Vet. Sergeant take command of a mission I think there's a case to be made for having a dread as an auxiliary HQ. Here's a thought, we have Librarian dreads, why not Sanguinary Priest ones? For every band aid successfully applied another band aid is administered, note these applications do not produce more band aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In the same way that you'd let a Vet. Sergeant take command of a mission I think there's a case to be made for having a dread as an auxiliary HQ. Here's a thought, we have Librarian dreads, why not Sanguinary Priest ones? For every band aid successfully applied another band aid is administered, note these applications do not produce more band aids. Way to unnecessary nerf the band aids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronhour Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In the same way that you'd let a Vet. Sergeant take command of a mission I think there's a case to be made for having a dread as an auxiliary HQ. Here's a thought, we have Librarian dreads, why not Sanguinary Priest ones? a reclusiarch dread would be a cool hq choice, a fearless and litaguies bubble like the sanguinors extra attack buff would be nice. Though a golden god relic contemptor sanguinary guard would be amazing with the right rules to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durundal Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Sanguinius in a bottle. He'll send an OMG to the world. I hope I get my Sanguinius in a bottle. Sanguinius in a Dreadnought. Mother of the emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Sanguinius in a bottle. He'll send an OMG to the world. I hope I get my Sanguinius in a bottle. Sanguinius in a Dreadnought. Mother of the emperor. Eh, Sanguinius would be underwhelming in a dreadnought. I know you're only half-serious but think about it. Instead of a skilled, agile, winged warrior we get the same lumbering machine that Astartes use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durundal Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Sanguinius in a bottle. He'll send an OMG to the world. I hope I get my Sanguinius in a bottle. Sanguinius in a Dreadnought. Mother of the emperor. Eh, Sanguinius would be underwhelming in a dreadnought. I know you're only half-serious but think about it. Instead of a skilled, agile, winged warrior we get the same lumbering machine that Astartes use? Permanent Wings of Sanginius and like 14F/13S/11R IWND, Fleet and other goodies. (yea i am half serious about the idea but totally serious about the concept) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 My personal guesses: The Blood Angels are supposed to be the Air Superiority Marines. Now that the Stormraven is no longer a Blood Angels/Grey Knights specific flyer, I predict that we will get something that flies and is unique to the Blood Angels. Perhaps it will be some sort of fighter/bomber dual kit? Jump pack centurions that can vector strike? Dreadknight-style bignasty that is a flying monstrous creature? I don't know. Price reductions across the board. Wargear and points cost changes to make our captains more viable. Relics and warlord traits... obviously. Some special rules to make our assault marines more viable as main troops, but I'm not sure exactly what. They're already quite durable with 3+ saves and access to Feel No Pain, and they already hit hard with access to Furious Charge. My guess would be some way of getting +1 (or more) Initiative. All it would take is Initiative 5 to let our assault marines beat anyone but dedicated assault forces in close combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 And that would be the problem right there... I5 on basic assault troops is just too good at the moment. Make them ws5 on the charge maybe, but I5 would just be a crutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 There's nothing 'too good' about a few I5 S5 ap- attacks, but I'd be surprised if we got any close combat buffs at all besides wargear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 There's nothing 'too good' about a few I5 S5 ap- attacks, but I'd be surprised if we got any close combat buffs at all besides wargear. Those S5 attacks slaughter non MEQs pretty fiercely. That's the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 No one cares about S5 attacks in combat. Who makes it into combat without a re-rollable invulnerable save these days anyway? And 'non MEQ' targets that would even care about I5 over I4 are just Eldar Guardians. And if you think Eldar need help battling the overpowered Blood Angels Assault Marines....well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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