Orblivion Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Dark Eldar Painting Guide If this is anything to go by, we can probably expect a BA version to available for £20. Would any of you actually buy it though? It will likely be available as part of the limited edition just like the Dark Eldar one, and I'm a sucker for limited editions :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 After some long thinking I also decided to get the LE. Necrons are cool, but Blood Angels are better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 So it's pretty much been confirmed that Asdrubael Vect has been removed from the Codex. As we know, this was an older model with the older-style Incubi models. Dark Eldar also have no LoW choice in their Codex. Conspiracy Theories: Available in a Supplement Available through White Dwarf Gone! For BA, four of our models are old. Can you see any being retired (remember, it happened to Njall in the fourth edition) or appearing in a Supplement? If we get the rumoured Flesh Tearers Supplement, I can see Seth going there. If we get a DC Supplement, I can see anyone from Astorath/Lemartes/DC Tycho/Moriar appearing there. Whilst I'm not overly keen on the "DLC" (downloadable content - it's a gaming term for getting extra stuff like expansions/mods/etc) approach that GW are doing, we should probably accept and prepare for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I'd be incredibly pissed off if Tycho ends up retired. He's the most interesting BA character AFAIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Considering now how far the BA release has dragged on, have you changed your ideas about we will get? Unfortunately GW seems to have taken an cue from EA and are really trying to wring very cent from new codex releases. We are seeing a new pattern to the Codex releases where the main release is frankly gutted, bland and weak, followed by a useful and better supplement to make the army playable. The main SW 'dex was okay, but the dark eldar release and orks seem to depend heavily on the extra rules for balance. With this new trend of 'mandatory' day one DLC, what will be put in ours? All DC and all SG armies seem like a good candidate. More than 3 dreads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Lol, talk about having the same idea at the same time! :p our models are old. Can you see any being retired (remember, it happened to Njall in the fourth edition) or appearing in a Supplement? None of ours are 'old' like Vect was 'old'. The sculpts predate him but Vect was part of that old DE lineup that has been phased out. Njal did get a new model in 4:th didn't he? Anyway, I suspect that if they remove some model it's only because we get a new sculpt or because it's not in the rules, and the last point doesn't apply to BA. Any changes will be related to formations, points and supplements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Great minds and all that ;) As for Njal, I think he got his TDA incarnation when he returned with the 5th edition. As for changing my ideas, I'm still going with my suggestions a couple of pages back. Doesn't mean I'm not concerned though as I expect something to come out of "left-field". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Our only FOC breaking stuff is Astorath + DC and Dante + SG, those will get formationed (yes, that's a verb now) . Whether in a supplement or a dataslate I wouldn't care to guess other than it'll be the option GW thinks will get more money (probably a supplement, then).Do we think the likes of Corbs and Lemartes will still be unit upgrades or that they'll be units in their own right again?I am struggling to see how they'll pull the shenanigans they have with other codices with ours. They'll find something stupid to do, no doubt, but they might have to get inventive.Maybe they'll reintroduce Red Thirst rules that mean all your heavy support units just run at the enemy mindlessly at random (because it never seemed to effect something you wouldn't mind skipping a turn of shooting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Back in the day when Red Thirst was that, the Dark Angels has their version which was something along the lines of "on a D6 roll of 1, the unit wouldn't move". The current version, Grim Resolve makes them Stubborn and makes them unable to fail a morale check on purpose (i.e. our weapons are useless). What I'm trying to say is that I don't see us returning to a random roll for anything anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Don't know about that, 6th and 7th have all been about those random rolls. It's almost easier to say what things you don't roll for these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Don't know about that, 6th and 7th have all been about those random rolls. It's almost easier to say what things you don't roll for these days. Bar psychic powers, I wouldn't say this is the really case for Space Marines' special rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I'll have a go at some predictions based on the 7th codexes so far. HQs Named HQs :- Price drop across the board. One will move to LoW slot. Mephiston or Dante will get a new sculpt. Possibility of a model with an old sculpt will be removed. Dante won't make Sanguinary Guard troops. Astorath won't lift the DC restriction Non-name HQs Librarians get a significant price drop to bring them in line with SM/DA. BA specific Psychic table with Wings as Primary Captains. Brought in line with SM/DA, many more options. Reclusiarch. Points drop, otherwise unchanged Honour Guard - As per SM with BA gun options. Possible new shared kit with ASM. Elites Sanguinary Guard. Points drop, otherwise unchanged Sanguniary Priests. Removed from elites section to become unit upgrades. Buffs no longer work as a bubble, constrained to unit only. Unsure about Corbulo Furioso Dreads. Slight points drop, otherwise unchanged Libby Dreads. Significant points drop, remain as ML2. Access to BA specific psychic table. Terminators. If no new kit, points drop. If new kit - points drop, new BA only gun, new Terminator unit type Chaplain/Sternguard/Techmarine - As SM/DA Troops Assault Marines. If no new kit - through the GW blanderiser to become the same as SM/DA. If new kit - Points drop, new BA specific gun. Tacticals - As SM/DA Scouts - As SM/DA Death Company. Jump Packs get a significant points reduction, otherwise unchanged. Restrictions on number of DC lifted under a DC specific formation or supplement. DC Dreads - Moved to elites, restrictions as before. Fast Attack Rhino/Razorback/Drop Pod - Available as Fast Attack options as well as Dedicated Transports. Rhino/Razor keep Fast, Razoback gets a points increase but cost of guns dropped to match those of SM. New Razorback kit with all the gun options. Bikes/Attack Bikes/Land Speeder/Scout Bikes/Vanguard Vets - As SM. Vanguards loose their BA specific Heroic Intervention. Baal Predator. Price drop on some gun options Storm Talon as per SM codex Heavy Support Land Raider. Available as Heavy Support choice, othewise unchanged. Up in the air if still a dedicated transport Dreads - As per SM codex Stormraven - As per SM codex. Missiles now AP2 Vindicator - Unchanged Predator - Points increase, some gun options reduced in cost Devs - As per codex SM, gain Skyfire for 10pts Whirlwind - Points drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Do we think the likes of Corbs and Lemartes will still be unit upgrades or that they'll be units in their own right again? In SW codex, Arjak and Lukas became Independent Characters, rather than upgrades, but can only join certain units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5URyGJz8GU0/VDAMv9k0yxI/AAAAAAAApmw/1CyXmCqj6iM/s1600/IMG_6743.JPG Another hint at us being next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 That's poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 That's classic :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 What's the consensus on Honor Guard with jump packs? I fear GW might roll Sanguinary Guard into the Honor Guard role. What about the anti-air variants? I think GW will keep somethings from Codex: Space Marines out of the Blood Angels. I don't see much hope for a Storm Talon personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5URyGJz8GU0/VDAMv9k0yxI/AAAAAAAApmw/1CyXmCqj6iM/s1600/IMG_6743.JPG Another hint at us being next? Hahahahaaaaa! What's the consensus on Honor Guard with jump packs? I fear GW might roll Sanguinary Guard into the Honor Guard role. What about the anti-air variants? I think GW will keep somethings from Codex: Space Marines out of the Blood Angels. I don't see much hope for a Storm Talon personally. I don't think we will get the Talon, but possibly the AA tanks as they are newer kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5URyGJz8GU0/VDAMv9k0yxI/AAAAAAAApmw/1CyXmCqj6iM/s1600/IMG_6743.JPG Another hint at us being next? Hahahahaaaaa! *dies of laughter at colossal meesup* GW seem to do this alot with the ebook codexes, i have seen this happen with the GK book as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't think we will get the Talon, but possibly the AA tanks as they are newer kits. Do we want the talon? It lasts longer now with improved jink, but the damage output is a little low.... hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 What's the consensus on Honor Guard with jump packs? I fear GW might roll Sanguinary Guard into the Honor Guard role. HG with jump packs are one of BA's unique units. They will stay. In the last codex, the SG were specifically differentiated from the HG both in terms of models and rules. They will stay apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 What's the consensus on Honor Guard with jump packs? I fear GW might roll Sanguinary Guard into the Honor Guard role. HG with jump packs are one of BA's unique units. They will stay. In the last codex, the SG were specifically differentiated from the HG both in terms of models and rules. They will stay apart. I would be surpirsed if HG and SG were joined in a new codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't think we will get the Talon, but possibly the AA tanks as they are newer kits. Do we want the talon? It lasts longer now with improved jink, but the damage output is a little low.... hmmm. Not really, I don't even mind if we don't get the AA tanks, but options are always nice I suppose. I'm just looking forward to improved costing really (hopefully!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Is there an Honor Guard box set that has jump packs? That's one reason why I fear they'll go away despite the SG current background. I could see a new box that contains a new assault squad spruce, perhaps with some extra bits to make jump pack honor guard, or a new unit, but without the main marine codex having access to the "fancy" options, I fear I am wish listing. Looking at the main marine codex I see honor guard squads with artificer armor. Iirc, only SG have that in the current Blood Angel codex. A retconnned SG wouldn't surprise me in the least. I'm not too keen on the storm talon. I believe the Blood Angels versions of several flyers hint at no new flyer options. I doubt the stalker and its variant will be attractive to me, but it is new kit to sell. Nothing seems too unique to them to prevent their inclusion in Codex Blood Angels. I'm also expecting Astorath and the other death company themed units to get spun into a supplement. Might as well have Blood Angel players pay for two books what we used to get in a free PDF. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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