++ The Murderers' Call - A Night Lords Community ++

[helterskelter]

Bikers at the moment though my army contains both.

I've 2 squads of melta raptors, and a full 9 man biker squad with 2 man held flamers and a combi flamer on the sergeant and chainswords for the rest. The bikes will also have "Mark of slaanesh" if I need something to die in a firestorm

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

Thanks

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

I think the Skull helm on the Master of Possessions and Skull head on the Greater Possessed would be perfect for Night Lords. I am excited for Shadowspear. You can use the CSM units as is and use the Primaris as a Seeker Talon or Recon Claw.

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

If you could be one military unit from the legion what would it be? I'd like to be a Seeker Talon member.

[Zayneth]

Hello Flayerkin! I was perusing through my codex and noticed that there are multiple cases of -1Ld spread around combined with your spicy trait. how does the following formula work?

 

an enemy unit is forced to make a moral check cuz reasons

-3 for 3 units in range

-1 for raptors

-1 for chaos spawn

-1 for allied haarkan

 

do they get a -6 or does the trait override that and its just a -3? idk if this was addressed previously but 100+ pages is a lot to dig through for a niche question lol

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

Also add the Icon of Despair and a minus two could be added from Butcher Cannons. Give Haarken Worldclaimer the Lord of Terror Warlord trait and the opponent has to roll two dice for morale and pick the worse one. Enjoy the hunt, brother. Ave Dominus Nox

[Zayneth]

so what im gathering is that you could potentially give a unit -10 Ld??? I know its somewhat gimmicky but omg I think im switching legions

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Bear in mind that there is a universal stratagem to ignore morale on a unit, so you need to be able to affect two units to get your money out of it.

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

Also, remember that some armies like Tyranids, some Space Marines, Poxwalkers heavy Death Guard, and Mordians are largely immune to morale casualties. Therefore you'll need to build a well rounded list not devoted to terror tactics solely or you'll get stomped. Our legion trait is a tool, not the main strategy.

[Tallarn Commander]

I've played 15 games with my Night Lords army this edition and I can count on one hand the number of enemy models I've killed with my NL morale debuffs. This is because I've gone up against a lot of MSU opponents or opponents who ignore morale.

 

I play Night Lords for the fluff. Although the Claws of the Night, the -1 to hit stratagem, and the re-roll warlord trait are good too. The Claws in particular have really come through for me in some clutch situations.

Edited March 4, 2019 by Tallarn Commander

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

Brothers of the Darkest Night what are your plans for Shadowspear?

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

What's the best Lord of War (Forge World included) for Night Lords in 40k?

[Gordon Shumway]

Cerberus Heavy Destroyer (wounds on LD). Of course it is over 600pts. Edited March 11, 2019 by Gordon Shumway

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

Thanks

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

The new Lord Discordant has a Chainglaive if you wish to do a conversion or just field him as is. I plan to do that.

[GreaterChickenofTzeentch]

Yeah.....regular Warpsmith wasn't quite "metal" enough for the 8th Legion. This guy, on the other hand.....wow. Even comes with a chainglaive. Time to buy another Mica Blue rattlecan. :)  I imagine him leading a "wild hunt" of Fiends and Heldrakes.....lightning and gory trophies everywhere.

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

I don't know if I'd buy enough Daemon Engines to warrant having it though. Probably a good stand in for a Chaos Hellwright on Dark Abeyant.

[OnboardG1]

Brothers of the Darkest Night what are your plans for Shadowspear?

I’m going to add a demon engine detachment led by a mad techmarine on the new spider who siphons off his victims’ fear for his “wine cellar”.

[Midnight Brotherhood]

Looks like we're going to be getting some new rules tomorrow brothers as we're listed in the index for new faction rules previews, perhaps we will see a specialist Raptor detachment!

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/heretic-astartes-focus-index/

[MyD4rkPassenger]

They mentioned in the article on Sunday that there will be a "terror causing Host Raptorial" detachment.  I'd bet most of my collection that we'll see some previews of that tomorrow considering it hit the two main GW buzzwords for our legion 

 

I am considering getting Haarkan for a Claws of the Black hunt lord conversion but generally prefer my terminator lord.  If this host raptorial requires a jump lord, than I can't think of a better base model.

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

I hope the Host Raptorial is not limited to the Black Legion.

[MyD4rkPassenger]

I suspect no if the one showcased today in the Iron Warrior Spotlight wasn't specific to them.  The only two of the four mentioned so far that were specific were the Fallen and Bringer's of Despair ones.

Edited March 19, 2019 by MyD4rkPassenger

[Daemon Prince Marbas]

I look forward to the possibility of a new Warlord trait and Artifact of Chaos.

[Midnight Brotherhood]

Well that was disappointing. I'm really not seeing much to tempt me here. Vicious descent might just make Warp Talons viable but it's still a 1CP gamble since you can't guarantee the charge. Usually my jump pack Lord is with my Raptors so I don't really need vicious descent on them. And honestly If I'm already destroying units I probably don't even need to use terror strike.

 

Honestly I'd rather just spend the 1-2 CPs on VoTLW or In Midnight clad for immediate and effective buffs.

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/20/20th-mar-heretic-astartes-focus-the-night-lordsgw-homepage-post-1/

Edited March 20, 2019 by Midnight Brotherhood

[MyD4rkPassenger]

Since this was designed as a generalist detachment usable by anyone, I get that it doesn't do much more than we already do.  I think the problem is they overestimate the usefulness of jump models with one attack that get only get a single extra attack from their weapons.  My two raptor squads and warp talon squad don't do much more than distract my enemy before the terminators, oblits, and berzerkers do the actual work.  Oh well, at the end of the day I won't have to buy new models or completely re-write my list so I'm seeing it as a net positive in the end.