LongGone Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 I shall patiently await the day that happens, then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4231692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Chain axes are so so good against militia and mecanicum. It almost feels o.p... ;) Edited November 22, 2015 by Fangbanger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4231893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Yah but then Graviton Rapiers become the standard 'boring' play. It's a Catch 22.  I say let's all break out some Caestus Assault Rams and laugh at the Graviton Rapiers and thrust our erect dropships into their faces!  Has anyone thought about how they'd kit up the new box for a WE list? I'm keen to see suggestions.  Tactical blob & Veterans? I hope that one of the new rites in book 6 allows fliers to roll reserves on first turn, because then I'm buying quite a few Ravens and Rams. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4232326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Yah but then Graviton Rapiers become the standard 'boring' play. It's a Catch 22.  I say let's all break out some Caestus Assault Rams and laugh at the Graviton Rapiers and thrust our erect dropships into their faces!  Has anyone thought about how they'd kit up the new box for a WE list? I'm keen to see suggestions.  Tactical blob & Veterans?  I have finally started a WE army using the B@C box and for my first 1000pt list to be played in ZM combatant list that looks something like this:  Preator (as it comes in the box)  Terminators (X5, X1 twin lightning claws, X2 chain Fists, power fist, heavy flamer) Vetran tac squad (AA,Thunder hammer, X9 power weapons, maybe some volkite dont remember)  15 Legion Dispoilers Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4234977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) i have found the eaters to be very enjoyable in zm... nothing like getting up close and personal in confined spaces.. Â that unmistakable noise of a chain axe revving up echoing around the corridors is enough to make any marine do a little poo! Edited November 25, 2015 by Fangbanger Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra and Phalanx Warder 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4235094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 i have found the eaters to be very enjoyable in zm... nothing like getting up close and personal in confined spaces.. Â that unmistakable noise of a chain axe revving up echoing around the corridors is enough to make any marine do a little poo! Â Reenact the Cerberus Insurrection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4237452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Do you guys use thud guns much in WE lists? Â I am thinking that they would provide nice fire support plus pinning to help reduce overwatch at a pretty reasonable price of 60pts, plus another 10 or 20 if you want through nuncio voxes to your squads for better accuracy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4241429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 No reason why not, obviously they don't gain anything from the rules, but they're pretty ubiquitous and support the infantry charge well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4241461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hello Guys, Quick question in regards to the Berserker assault RoW: there is interesting wording in the RoW that state (not verbatim) when using Berserker assault you must take 1Â extra compulsory troop choice than is normally required. Using the normal AoD FoC that would equal x3 Compulsory Troop choices, however using the Zone Mortalis FoC, IÂ don't remember the name of the one (Attacker or Defender)Â that the compulsory choices are 1 HQ and 1 Elite, so the wording for our RoWÂ would make the ZM FoC 1-HQ, 1-Elite, 1-Troop like this: HQ praetor (RoW: Berserker Assault) Â Elite Terminator squad (x5) Â Veteran Tactical Squad (x10) Â Troop Despoiler Squad (x15) Â Is this a legal list able to run our RoW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4242700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Technically speaking you cant use a RoW with the other FoCs just the AoD FoC. Â If your buddies are cool with it though, more power to ya. Phalanx Warder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4242703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Technically speaking you cant use a RoW with the other FoCs just the AoD FoC. Â If your buddies are cool with it though, more power to ya. Â Thanks brother! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4242704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Do you guys use thud guns much in WE lists? I am thinking that they would provide nice fire support plus pinning to help reduce overwatch at a pretty reasonable price of 60pts, plus another 10 or 20 if you want through nuncio voxes to your squads for better accuracy. I find thudd guns too Cheesey and under pointed so never take them. Hoping they get a Nerf or points increase next book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4242750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Try running them without Shatter Shell access. Read the Achilles Alpha fluff for reasons why. Â If they were a 15pt upgrade, or a 5pt upgrade AND gave up their frag shells, they would be rightly priced. Â Thudd Guns do not pin either. They provide a -1 to pinning, but barrage doesn't pin any more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4242774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Artillery? What is Artillery, what kind of axe is that? Â In other news I just ordered 60 chainaxes, 60 torsos, 60 helms, 60 shoulder padstrap, 10 veteran helms and Kharngron. Â I'm thinking 2x Spartans for the tacs and a typhon on support for my core. Flint13 and Billy Butcher 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Try running them without Shatter Shell access. Read the Achilles Alpha fluff for reasons why. Â If they were a 15pt upgrade, or a 5pt upgrade AND gave up their frag shells, they would be rightly priced. Â Thudd Guns do not pin either. They provide a -1 to pinning, but barrage doesn't pin any more. Didnt the newest rule set on the website does give them pinning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Artillery? What is Artillery, what kind of axe is that? Â In other news I just ordered 60 chainaxes, 60 torsos, 60 helms, 60 shoulder padstrap, 10 veteran helms and Kharngron. Â I'm thinking 2x Spartans for the tacs and a typhon on support for my core. I can hear the beautiful revving of chain axes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Can you link please v6? Would be good to have an actual answer. I have sent in requests for clarification on any rule and I get the whole 'passed to rules team, please houserule' despite telling them 'upon houseruling and testing, please find these suggestions attached'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/RapierQuadMortar40k.pdf  Granted, these are the 40k rules, but I expect this will carry through to the Red Book update. Slips 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/RapierQuadMortar40k.pdf  Here it is Hesh. Thing to note is that it doesnt actually mention 30k in the little box at the bottom so thats a point of contention. Caillum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) I see your points, although it is noted that there are differentiation in rules between 30k-40k, such as Leviathan Dreads  That (IMHO) does not consist of decent enough authorisation, considering that Red Book Astartes allowed Sunder shells based on the copy paste of the most recent rules for the quad mortar (those in the Chilles Alpha).  The Achilles Alpha explicitly states it has a modified weapon barrel to use Shatter Shells, AND unlike any other Quad Mortar shells mentions Shatter Shells as being equipped explicitly.  It was one of the reasons why i came away from Quad Mortars in 30k and looked elsewhere. The new editions haven't been changed because of intrinsic laziness (look how badly edited the Red Book is).  Many of my people i play with share similar thoughts, especially those who played before the red book, while those most vehement supporters are those who run multiple mortar batteries like i used to back in 2 and inevitably newcomers since then Edited December 4, 2015 by Hesh Kadesh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 That'd be hilarious if they nerfed the quad mortar by taking away shatter shells :P everyone's list would be in shambles. Hesh Kadesh and Gorgoff 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm worried Graviton Pulse loses haywire and becomes Torsion Crusher instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm worried Graviton Pulse loses haywire and becomes Torsion Crusher instead. Yeah 3d6 is super unreliable. But if it got torsion crusher on top of haywire, it would go god tier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4243623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daismith906 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) So decided to start a WE force going to be fluffy more than competative  planning on starting at 1000pts and increasing from there, this allows me to paint the units in bits and still have small/doubles games as my army progresses  so far ive got  Beserker ROW  HQ Khârn the Bloody  Elites Apothecary with Artificer Armour   Troops Legion Tactical Squad with Chain Axes (in rhino) 18 Legion Tactical Squad, 17 with Chain Axes, Sgt with Artificer Armour, Powersword, Meltabombs (in Spartan with Khârn and Apoth)  Dedicated Transport Rhino  Heavy Support Spartan Assault Tank, Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shields, Dozer Blade, Frag Assault Launchers  Total = 1000pts  What you guys think? Edited December 11, 2015 by daismith906 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4249384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Berserker Assault needs an additional Troops choice mate, but that's a solid start! Mechanised assault is definitely the strength of World Eaters. Also, the Spartan can hold 25 models, so just go for the full 20 Tactical Marines. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/13/#findComment-4249412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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