Gorgoff Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I've got about 1300 pts open right now and my Knight collection consists of 1x Atropos, 2x Lancers, 1x Castigator, 4x Stumpy undetermined Questoris, 1x Acheron, 1xStyrix[/size] Are you rich? Is that your secret? Or are you Bill Gates? What is it? How can you afford them? TEACH ME! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4468618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 At that point just get a 20 man and put them in a spartan I'm still trying to find a good ratio between Spartans and Phobos, since there's a good 100pt difference between the standard equipment versions now. I think Terminus made a good point a few posts back when you look at Inductii (which are cheap) and assault vehicles (which are expensive) they kinda balance each other out. This is simply because you're all doing it wrong. :P You're all sitting around, buzzing on your cranial implants, all mammalian brain like a bunch of Space Wolves, or something. It takes the cunning of the reptilian brain to unleash true savagery. I hope you're wearing a helmet, so you don't make a mess when I blow your mind! Berserker Assault HQ: Khârn with Gorechild HQ: Surlak Elites: Apothecary with artificer, chain axe Elites: 9x Red Butchers, dual axes, chainfist/power fist Troops: 10x Inductii, chainaxes, artificer+powerfist, vexilla Troops: 10x Inductii, chainaxes, artificer+powerfist, vexilla Troops: 18x Inductii, chainaxes, artificer+powerfist, vexilla Fast Attack: Dreadclaw Fast Attack: Dreadclaw Heavy Support: Kharybdis Heavy Support: Kharybdis Heavy Support: Melta Lance/Drill/Phosphex Leviathan in pod. 1st turn deep strike has two 5HP AV12 transports hovering over their heads, with a leviathan rampaging through their lines. Depending on how you position the dread pod, you could be jinking for a 2+ with those Kharybdis. Now your opponent faces the inevitability of a 2nd turn charge by 18 Inductii, 9 Red Butchers, and Khârn. The smaller squads come in whenever to clean up. Hordes are handled by all the flame blasts and chainaxes, fliers by the Kharybdis rockets, armor just gets punched to death. No scoring, everyone dies. Basically the only issue is how you play the null deployment/orbital assault-style, and whether you auto-lose even if you get first turn. Khârn's warlord trait is quite helpful in this regard. Flint13, Allart01, Ethrion and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4468679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ok bros, Terminus has been advocating it for quite awhile, but I just gave Dread claws a try instead of land raiders for my Inductii. It was pretty awesome. I saved about 250pts which I put into a fun jetbike squad, and it opened up two heavy support slots which, as all legion players know, are at a premium. So I had 2 10man inductii squads w/ powerfist/artificer sgts and a Levi in a dreadpod. Any hesitation I experienced from losing four twin-lascannons and a bit of AV14 target saturation immediately vanished when I got to flame strike a bunch of stuff, which is just as satisfying as I thought it would be. I didn't realize how great it would be for knocking a couple hull points off vehicles, but it always hits the weakest armor value. So its pretty useful against light and medium armor like land speeders or predators. Are you rich?Is that your secret?Or are you Bill Gates?What is it?How can you afford them?TEACH ME! Ah, none of that. I'm just occasionally little flush with cash between the research stipend I get every quarter and a g/f that spoils me a bit. Gorgoff and Terminus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Regular WE bikes are pretty amazing actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Everything WE is amazing due to chainaxes. Recon Company with scouts with shotguns and chainaxes. Amazing. Chain axes. &$@! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Are you rich? Is that your secret? Or are you Bill Gates? What is it? How can you afford them? TEACH ME! Ah, none of that. I'm just occasionally little flush with cash between the research stipend I get every quarter and a g/f that spoils me a bit. Chain axes are just pure insanity now. Fangbanger and Flint13 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 If the Blood Angels tactica is labeled All the Assault Cannons, it is only right this forum is renamed Chainaxe Legion. Guiltysparc 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Hmm...dreadclaw you say....how about this action for 2000pts? -Praetor Tribune, Surlak, 15 Despoilers in a Spartan -Inductii in a Dreadclaw -Deadstorm Pod (DP Assault) -Drop Pod Levi -2x Javelin (MM, CML, HKs) -Another Inductii but in a rhino (meh, points) 3 pods would let you bring in the leviathan and inductii on the first turn...could be fun -2x Javelin (MM, CML, HKs) Edited August 18, 2016 by Guiltysparc Brother Aiwass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Loving the thread name. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 What to hit with them? Everything! You can also use it to open beer and do small jobs around the house. "Hey honey, the hedges need trimming." "Let me get the chainaxe." "Hey honey, we need to get the meat ready for grilling." "Let me get the chainaxe." "Hey honey, that neighbor's kid is in the lawn again." "Let me get the chainaxe." 2gud2bbad, Brother Aiwass, disease and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 That new thread name! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4471971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 What to hit with them? Everything! You can also use it to open beer and do small jobs around the house. "Hey honey, the hedges need trimming." "Let me get the chainaxe." "Hey honey, we need to get the meat ready for grilling." "Let me get the chainaxe." "Hey honey, that neighbor's kid is in the lawn again." "Let me get the chainaxe." "Hey honey, the police are here, someone must of rang about the dead kid outside." "Let me get BOTH my chainaxes." Nova_chron and Terminus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Got to say, I fought Imperial Fists the other day with only a cobbled together World Eater list and yeah, inductii + axes are sick! I sent 15 of them in against 10 storm shield/powerfist terminators and while they ultimately did get whittled down to about 3 left they took the terminators down to the same amount too. Held them up long enough for a support unit of 15 more to arrive and guarantee success. Oh and Polux was in that unit as well and my sgt. dodged the one shot punch and took him down. I was actually even multicharging a lot as well as charging breachers, so wasn't even getting +2 for rage half the time. Stupidly, I dropped my red butcher's anvillus too close to the enemy lines and failed the jink saves and it got blown apart right in front of plasma cannons. Needless to say they all died. Had I not been blinded by the nails and dropped smart they would have wrecked even more face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Why did they all die? Why do people think Dreadclaws crash and burn when they are destroyed? The final effect of it being destroyed should have been NOTHING. Edit: just saw the part about plasma cannons... unfortunate Edited August 19, 2016 by Terminus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hmm...dreadclaw you say....how about this action for 2000pts? -Praetor Tribune, Surlak, 15 Despoilers in a Spartan -Inductii in a Dreadclaw -Deadstorm Pod (DP Assault) -Drop Pod Levi -2x Javelin (MM, CML, HKs) -Another Inductii but in a rhino (meh, points) 3 pods would let you bring in the leviathan and inductii on the first turn...could be fun -2x Javelin (MM, CML, HKs) Why not drop the deathstorm for another anvilus and put the other inductii squad in it? Guiltysparc and Brother Aiwass 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Why did they all die? Why do people think Dreadclaws crash and burn when they are destroyed? The final effect of it being destroyed should have been NOTHING. Edit: just saw the part about plasma cannons... unfortunate The anvillus was too close to the IF lines (should of turbo boosted away and then returned next turn) and got exploded by a couple of melta shots that 7+'d them. They survived that no problem but yeah, were then caught out in the open. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hmm...dreadclaw you say....how about this action for 2000pts? -Praetor Tribune, Surlak, 15 Despoilers in a Spartan -Inductii in a Dreadclaw -Deadstorm Pod (DP Assault) -Drop Pod Levi -2x Javelin (MM, CML, HKs) -Another Inductii but in a rhino (meh, points) 3 pods would let you bring in the leviathan and inductii on the first turn...could be fun -2x Javelin (MM, CML, HKs) Why not drop the deathstorm for another anvilus and put the other inductii squad in it? I, uh...really like my rhino model? Ya, that would work, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I was actually even multicharging a lot as well as charging breachers, so wasn't even getting +2 for rage half the time. Stupidly, I dropped my red butcher's anvillus too close to the enemy lines and failed the jink saves and it got blown apart right in front of plasma cannons. Needless to say they all died. Had I not been blinded by the nails and dropped smart they would have wrecked even more face. So I really love my Red Butchers... but I haven't put them in a list for quite awhile. They're awesome, but having to strike at ini1 and always being hit on 3+ tend to whittle them down a bit vs dedicated combat units. And now that an Inductii with a chainaxe swings harder than they do... It's a little bit weird they don't have furious charge. Actually does anyone else thinks its a little weird how difficult it is for World Eaters to get furious charge since our legion rules changed? Seriously, what legion is more about charging furiously than we are? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I actually find all of our legion specific units a bit after the LAAoD update. Rampagers were already pretty meh but they are super meh now vs regular assault marines. I am pretty surprised the legion units didnt get an overhaul in LAAoDL when they knew they were going to be overhauling the vanilla units. re: furious charge...we sort of get it all the time now via the chainaxe change. I think if we got another +1S on top it would be a bit much. Edited August 19, 2016 by Guiltysparc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I love RB and think they are damn powerful... But yeah, they are a suicide unit. You just need to cause more damage than they cost and not fight power fists.... ALSO I'd wager we'll get a new legions book around the time of 8/9, once the Vlka and Prospereans have settled and the BA/DA/WS are getting some full rules maybe. Edited August 19, 2016 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I never leave home withou the butchers, I love the damage output and fear factor so much! Butchers - aim for tac squads Inductii - aim for terminator squads to take them out before they hit at inititive 1 This is why I like putting a preator/Khan with butchers so the get some higher initiative attacks in first Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I never leave home withou the butchers, I love the damage output and fear factor so much! Butchers - aim for tac squads Inductii - aim for terminator squads to take them out before they hit at inititive 1 This is why I like putting a preator/Khan with butchers so the get some higher initiative attacks in first Yeah that's pretty much the optimum strategy. Even some hidden power axes against some veterans aren't stopping Butches with 2W 4++/6+++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4472783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 As I've now not got the disposable income I had for 3 years, I've had to shelve realistically expanding massively so I have settled with 2 playable lists that use what I have now: 2.5k Khârn with goodies Gahlan 3x Inductii 2x Combi-plas plasma blaster cataphractii with various stabbies 3x Dreadclaw (2x Cataphractii & 1 Inductii 2x Spartan Funbus Upgraded to 3k: Gahlan Surlak Champion with Fun Hammer 3x Inductii 2x Red Butchers 3x Dreadclaws (same as before) 2x Spartan Funbus 1x Angryman Much stabby! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4473139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Zero scoring units at 3000 points. Ballsy! Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4473208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 "What objectives?" - Real World Eater players ;p Plaguecaster and Billy Butcher 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/64/#findComment-4473384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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