helterskelter Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 So that solves the death eagles chapter :p any NL loyalists mentioned on the off chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Saw this in another thread, didn't want to derail it by posting there. Book IV makes this a confirmation, it outlines the way things score and the army building methods. Unbound is not a thing, however this doesnt prevent friendly games playing however you like. Can anyone expand on this? We've had some back and forth on this forum on this subject, and I'd really like to hear the official ruling for how to bring 30k into 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 30K stays with 6th editions rules for force organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Do you know which if the three campaigns the Fists are fighting in?I believe they were involved on the Manachean Commonwealth but I am yet to read that in detail. So that solves the death eagles chapter :p any NL loyalists mentioned on the off chance? No, but the Death Eagles were the only named Blackshields that I have seen so far. I just skimmed the campaign background, there is details in there for Slamander and Raven Guard Forces, so there is more info on them in there. Same for the Death Guard, Sons of Horus, Iron Hands, and I guess Imperial Fists. Will provide details when I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Any chance of getting scans of the variant paint scheme for Death Guard and Sons of Horus? I want to see what they received... Kinda miffed that we never got them in the prior books. Also, the Black Shields, is this what they're referring to when mentioning Dusk Raiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I haven't read the Death Guard campaign background so,I don't know but very possibly. I can maybe take some pics, haven't got a scanner. Bad news (or good depending on your outlook) on the Raven Guard detailed in the campaign, it's part of a void battle, and they are either captured ships or more probally, traitor Ravens, working with the Sons of Horus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Sorry for the quality, best I could do. Solar Auxiliar Salamanders Iron Hands Imperial Fists Death Guard Sons of Horus I would also like to say that there is some detail of a certain green xeno race, I won't provide details openly, but if wanted pm me, it's not much but interesting and IMO good to acknowledge. I have been personally considering the actions of the broken xenos, and how they may try to take advantage of the civil war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Daemon, you're freaking awesome. Thanks a ton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 So Demi-Company is an official designation for the Fists. Need to add that :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 OH MY PRIMARCH THOSE IMPERIAL FISTS :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I can't quite read it, what does it say for the Dusk Raiders pauldron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Awesome! thanks for the pictures =). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I can't quite read it, what does it say for the Dusk Raiders pauldron? It says it has seen re-emergence on unknown Loyalist Marines, in short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 The Dusk Raiders An obsolete iteration of the XIVth Legion, the Dusk Raiders' storm grey plate and blood red right shoulder and arm armour re-emerged on udenitified Loyalist Astartes So there's some hint towards loyalist Dusk Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Oh man! I am excite. Thanks so much, this gives me a ton of inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 No worries dude. I want to say that there isn't really details on the workings of the shattered legions in massive detail, or not that I have seen, so don't think that the Raven Guard or Slamanders have been stiffed. I think the background on the Iron Hands, the Blackshields,and the little we are given on the XVIIIth and XIXth gives enough to build are own background on shattered legions. My main Astartes focus will remain on the XIXth, but man they will not be alone, there will black shields, Salamanders, Iron Hands, amd they are just an elite force beCuse around them swarms the So,ar Auxiliar and the mystics of the Mechanichus. The Civil War is brother vs brother, but the blood that flows is human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy3569 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 in fairness I have had orders with FW before where it has stated Acknowledged and nothing else but I have received the shipment anyway In fact I have one that was from about two years back that STILL says acknowledged but arrived just the same. Just you know.... to make it even less certain for you..... and leave you hanging more.... damn I really intended that to be an upbeat "you never know it might be winging its way to you" now statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy3569 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 So that solves the death eagles chapter any NL loyalists mentioned on the off chance? There is one small passage that I've seen in the small sidebar that talks of the "Sundered and the Black" : ...persistent stories and evidence long since suppressed of midnight clad warriors in defaced Night lords Heraldry savagely attacking Traitor forces at the liberation of Estaban III... also in the same passage (Sorry sons of Russ ): Likewise also should be considered the long denied evidence of a Great Company of the Space Wolves legion bearing the symbol of the Serpents Eye slaughtering millions at neo Cadiz in 008.M31.... As for the Black Shields there is a clear reference to them fighting on the Loyalist side but also suggestions that Black liveried legionaries were fielded by the traitor marines - possibly raised from the gene seed of the dead of istavaan. now unless ive missed something I cant see any rule sets for using either shattered legions or these black shield marines, a little disappointing as I kinda thought that was one of the aims of the book (a sub purpose no doubt as clearly the focus was knights and Solar Auxilia but still). (Damnit just seen Deamons post - got there before me lol) That being said there are no circumstances under which I would advise not buying this book, the fluff content is phenomenal and the campaign system and knights army list probably make it worth it on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Also on the rules bits and pieces, NO DAEMONOLOGY at all. It's the core psychic disciplines only. Of course friendly games can be customised however anyone wants but in the main, 6th ed rules are the way things are going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Also on the rules bits and pieces, NO DAEMONOLOGY at all. It's the core psychic disciplines only. Of course friendly games can be customised however anyone wants but in the main, 6th ed rules are the way things are going I'm mildly surprised, but only so far as it is no daemonology AT ALL. I'd expected Word Bearers to get access to it in some form or another, but I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son of Magnus Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Is the way psychic powers are rolled for the same as 6th or has it been updated to 7th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Isn't the Prophet of Fire the chaplain character from Volume 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Isn't the Prophet of Fire the chaplain character from Volume 2? Seems like it, the fluff bit on him from book 2 ends with something like "the future of his legion is in his hands" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Correct me if I am mistaken, but right now it sounds like Horus and Mortarion are the only two Primarchs moving towards Terra from Isstvan. Angron and Lorgar have gone to stop the Ultramarines as we saw in Betrayer. Kurze was sent away because Horus doesn't trust/can't control him or his Legion. Alpharius was always meant to operate independently as has been doing so. Magnus is in the Eye. And Perturabo and Fulgrim have gone on an adventure so dumb it can only make sense to Graham McNeill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 And that's why Primarchs will always be seen as weak, in my eyes. Legionaires get :cuss done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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